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December Wrasslin' |OT| Dreaming of a Vanilla Christmas
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excelsiorlef
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I mean she's been given fuck all to do.
She got a big win at the Series but then got beat down and given no chance to dish out comeuppance.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sasha also barely did anything at all for the first 8 months she was on the main roster so don't get your knickers in a twist about Bayley quite yet.
That was too bro-y and borderline misogynist to get through.
FlammableD
Banned
Sheetz say Nixon Newell is off to the PC. :'(
Also don't really want
, if that's what the NXT spoilers were implying.
Also don't really want
Damo in Sanity
FlammableD
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sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
WWE is legit shook by that World of Sport revival (which is hilarious). From Da Meltzmas:
"WWE vs. ITV is already brewing behind-the-scenes. ITV has recently sent all their talent amendment to their contracts that wouldn’t allow anyone appearing on those shows to do television on major stations. Those contracts would not prevent the ITV talent from appearing for other companies, nor from appearing on iPPV or streaming services for other companies. However, the contracts would give ITV first dibs on the talent, similar to TNA. There is already talk of doing house shows if the first season is a success. If that’s the case, they would have the right to book the talent on their shows, and if the talent would have made other bookings on those dates, they would have to cancel.
WWE at the same time is starting to offer unique contracts to the key U.K. wrestlers who are marketable or have some name value that don’t already have deals. The deals were described as different from anything they’ve done in the past. These are not main roster deals, nor developmental deals. Those in the U.K., and for that matter even some in WWE who are friends with talent that have been offered the deals, have termed then “competition-killer” deals. They are low dollar guarantees, the talent would stay in the U.K. and be allowed to continue to work indies, but now would have a small cushion. The key would be in locking the talent down to where they can’t go to the ITV promotion, but would also not be allowed to appear for promotions like WCPW (a group that spends big money for foreign talent and does its own Internet weekly television show and iPPV shows), or with promotions that have streaming services. The contracts would give WWE the right to approve or not approve of their indie dates.
Some of the names offered deals are fairly well known in the U.K. hardcore community, while others really have no name value at all. Many had prior tryouts with WWE and they weren’t at the time interested in picking them up. A major percentage of those who tried out a few weeks ago at the SSE Hydro in Glasgow were offered these type of deals. It would enable the talent involved that is struggling to make a living in wrestling, most having other jobs, to have a little big of a cushion to pursue their wrestling, and since the dream of most is WWE since that is what they grew up on, there is that emotional leverage of a WWE offer as opposed to going with a small company with no stability or a newer company that may or may not have longevity.
The WWE has already asked for everyone’s names and started to do background checks, and have told people to clean up their social media accounts, but haven’t offered the actual physical contracts yet.
There are ideas hinted around, perhaps another television show featuring the contracted U.K. talent for that market only. The idea is that just being associated with a WWE product would increase the marketability of such talent on the U.K. scene.
At the same time, several of the key U.K. promotions have had contact from both FloSlam and WWE regarding being part of their streaming services. The key promotions, Revolution Pro, Progress, ICW and WCPW have their own streaming service. WCPW is backed by the What Culture site and thus has strong financial backing and thus would be unlikely to sign up with either side. Revolution Pro, which has some of the hottest and best action at its big shows, and uses top American indie wrestlers as well as stars from New Japan, would have at least some international appeal as a streaming show given both the names and in time, potential due to show quality. The thing working against anyone new getting past a certain level of exposure is that with the amount of product that WWE puts out, and it being the major league group, unless it’s someone who has no interest in WWE or lives and dies with pro wrestling, there aren’t enough hours in the day for even following another strong product.
At this point, neither the WWE Network nor FloSlam have reached a deal with any of the key U.K. groups. WWE did work with both Progress and Revolution Pro in qualifying matches for the Cruiserweight Classic.
At the ICW show in Glasgow, the WWE contracts were major talk, and the peer group pressure was to not sign with people calling them “mark deals,” with the idea that “They don’t want you, they just don’t want anyone else to have you.”"
I really don't see how signing a non guaranteed WWE deal, and having to drop ALMOST EVERY BIG SCALE BOOKING (everyone and their dog has streaming these days, including all the UK and US places you really want to work) is a good idea for a talent.
WWE is legit shook by that World of Sport revival (which is hilarious). From Da Meltzmas:
"WWE vs. ITV is already brewing behind-the-scenes. ITV has recently sent all their talent amendment to their contracts that wouldn’t allow anyone appearing on those shows to do television on major stations. Those contracts would not prevent the ITV talent from appearing for other companies, nor from appearing on iPPV or streaming services for other companies. However, the contracts would give ITV first dibs on the talent, similar to TNA. There is already talk of doing house shows if the first season is a success. If that’s the case, they would have the right to book the talent on their shows, and if the talent would have made other bookings on those dates, they would have to cancel.
WWE at the same time is starting to offer unique contracts to the key U.K. wrestlers who are marketable or have some name value that don’t already have deals. The deals were described as different from anything they’ve done in the past. These are not main roster deals, nor developmental deals. Those in the U.K., and for that matter even some in WWE who are friends with talent that have been offered the deals, have termed then “competition-killer” deals. They are low dollar guarantees, the talent would stay in the U.K. and be allowed to continue to work indies, but now would have a small cushion. The key would be in locking the talent down to where they can’t go to the ITV promotion, but would also not be allowed to appear for promotions like WCPW (a group that spends big money for foreign talent and does its own Internet weekly television show and iPPV shows), or with promotions that have streaming services. The contracts would give WWE the right to approve or not approve of their indie dates.
Some of the names offered deals are fairly well known in the U.K. hardcore community, while others really have no name value at all. Many had prior tryouts with WWE and they weren’t at the time interested in picking them up. A major percentage of those who tried out a few weeks ago at the SSE Hydro in Glasgow were offered these type of deals. It would enable the talent involved that is struggling to make a living in wrestling, most having other jobs, to have a little big of a cushion to pursue their wrestling, and since the dream of most is WWE since that is what they grew up on, there is that emotional leverage of a WWE offer as opposed to going with a small company with no stability or a newer company that may or may not have longevity.
The WWE has already asked for everyone’s names and started to do background checks, and have told people to clean up their social media accounts, but haven’t offered the actual physical contracts yet.
There are ideas hinted around, perhaps another television show featuring the contracted U.K. talent for that market only. The idea is that just being associated with a WWE product would increase the marketability of such talent on the U.K. scene.
At the same time, several of the key U.K. promotions have had contact from both FloSlam and WWE regarding being part of their streaming services. The key promotions, Revolution Pro, Progress, ICW and WCPW have their own streaming service. WCPW is backed by the What Culture site and thus has strong financial backing and thus would be unlikely to sign up with either side. Revolution Pro, which has some of the hottest and best action at its big shows, and uses top American indie wrestlers as well as stars from New Japan, would have at least some international appeal as a streaming show given both the names and in time, potential due to show quality. The thing working against anyone new getting past a certain level of exposure is that with the amount of product that WWE puts out, and it being the major league group, unless it’s someone who has no interest in WWE or lives and dies with pro wrestling, there aren’t enough hours in the day for even following another strong product.
At this point, neither the WWE Network nor FloSlam have reached a deal with any of the key U.K. groups. WWE did work with both Progress and Revolution Pro in qualifying matches for the Cruiserweight Classic.
At the ICW show in Glasgow, the WWE contracts were major talk, and the peer group pressure was to not sign with people calling them “mark deals,” with the idea that “They don’t want you, they just don’t want anyone else to have you.”"
I really don't see how signing a non guaranteed WWE deal, and having to drop ALMOST EVERY BIG SCALE BOOKING (everyone and their dog has streaming these days, including all the UK and US places you really want to work) is a good idea for a talent.
That's a stock car, and drifting a stock car is the last thing you'd want to do.
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What part of it is borderline misogynist?
Honestly, I think the criticisms are valid. Lita, the queen of monotone and bad promotionals, called out Bayley on her lack of effort. Booker T demonstrated exactly how a promotional should be done.
It's not about Bayley being given nothing to do. She wrestles all the time. It's about being given the spotlight at a very specific moment and completely dropping the ball.
Damn Silly
Member
And I thought I came up with a good name with Decemberg. Ah well.
WWE really doesn't like the international scenes growing bigger, does it? Raid New Japan and the UK while cutting off major shows by booking the same buildings at earlier dates in the same time period.
This is so weird and aggressive from them. Are they that allergic to the tiniest bit of international TV competition that they are willing to sew people up like this?
FlammableD
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It's also very anti-indies, which is bizarre given their general behaviour as of late (CWC Qualifiers, sending Finn and offering a Revival match to ICW)
surely they could fool a couple of guys with the promise of DA BIG LEAGUES MAGGLE
WWE...
British Monsoon
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Fucking Doi Darts just picked a terrible main event for the 12/20 show lol, can't wait - it's Yasshi, Susumu, K-ness, Maria & Yoshioka vs Kanda, Fujii, Mondai, Punch & Hyou. Should be fun, haha.
avengers23
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British Monsoon
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avengers23
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I love that Okada changes into his entrance gear for a card battle.
Man, Damien Sandow. Aron Rex is awful.
Man, Damien Sandow. Aron Rex is awful.
That sounds amazingly bad. Shingo was right when he called Doi Darts stupid.
British Monsoon
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It's stupid, but I love it - today's was great. Yoshino turned heel by making a little girl cry haha. Also, that main event will be fun precisely because it's lacking big names, plus you know the undercard's gonna be stacked.
oneofthose
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Will there be a
confrontation at the rumble!?
confrontation at the rumble!?
This is amazing
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Fuji and Mondai on the same team in the main event does have a certain kind of appeal.
Fuji and Mondai on the same team in the main event does have a certain kind of appeal.
The Elite
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Does the Rock's family have a cruiserweight division?
SallyIsNow
Banned
Lmao. What was his team?
Man, Damien Sandow. Aron Rex is awful.
We all need Sandow Claus back.
And it's Sandow we need back, not Aron Rex.
Actually he was just a scrub who didn't fight.
Just like WrassleGAF, always shooting blanks!
avengers23
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FlammableD
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You spell HHH weird
TarpitCarnivore
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I started watching BOLA 2016 last night, and more specifically thee 5-star match. I still have a few minutes left in it, but as of right now I think the 5 could be high but I know there is a huge series coming up.
It is without a doubt a spot fest, but it's not done poorly at all. I feel like the BOLA matches fully get that it's about entertainment and that is exactly what the match is from start to where I am now. It's not some spot fest like a WWE 6-man ladder match where 99% of the match is 1v1 with each guy gets in their signature move.
It is without a doubt a spot fest, but it's not done poorly at all. I feel like the BOLA matches fully get that it's about entertainment and that is exactly what the match is from start to where I am now. It's not some spot fest like a WWE 6-man ladder match where 99% of the match is 1v1 with each guy gets in their signature move.
you mean the guy running the best wrestling show on the only relevant wrestling company still alive?
lmao gtfo mark
NXT isn't really that good anymore.
There's also actual evidence to support the idea that HHH killed mainstream wrestling since the big drop in popularity from the 90s and early 2000s happened pretty much in sync with HHH's reign of terror.
correlation vs causation etc etc
Just finished watching this week's Lucha Underground. Fantastic episode but not one for those who dislike intergender wrestling. I know the Stardom Three are all great wrestlers but their performances here was lightyears ahead of the other women on the show. Not just from the moves and selling but their confidence and character portrayals shone through. Doku (Kaiji Hojo) showed she had a high threshold for pain, Yurei (Mayu Iwatani) is the smallest of the three yet still came across as a sadistic force against Pentagon and Hidokiri (Io Shirai) was a combination of both characteristics. She then did that massive dive from the balcony without hesitation. The only gripe I had with the episode was Vampiro going on the verge of orgasm whenever the matches got violent. With his gimmick and history with Pentagon I get what he was trying to do but it was still annoying.
In a perfect world this season of LU would have featured more from the Stardom girls and also Night Claw but we don't live in that world.
In a perfect world this season of LU would have featured more from the Stardom girls and also Night Claw but we don't live in that world.