Pandora012
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If I remember some items restore MP and you can always return to the mansion to recover.
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Demon Gaze |OT| Even heroes have to pay rent
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If I remember some items restore MP and you can always return to the mansion to recover.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Thats because the Wizard doesnt have a passive regen skill.
You will need to find artifacts that give you the MP I or II regen skill which is a healer skill if you want the same ability.
Dont expect to use the Wizard all the time in battle. MP is limited for a reason. Sure it may take up a party slot now, but later on its fairly useful.
Yeah, I get that, but doesn't that make the class next to worthless? Am I missing something here?
How would I "find" those artifacts? Just random luck from the artifact gems? What are the odds of that happening??
It just seems like bad game design to have a class that can't do anything early on.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Basically its random luck which is why you will have to save / reload. Also what skills can come out depends on the dungeon you are in. You will need to look up info for that. Am not sure what kind of English wikis are out there.
Dont waste the artifact gems either as they are limited in numbers, which brings us back to the whole save and reload thing till you get what you want.
Its just that you are not used to these sorts of games as otherwise you would be familiar that mages in general are not meant to be used every single battle. But not having one at times = bad due to physical resistant enemies. Though in Demon Gaze never found it as much of an issue vs like other related titles. They also get fairly useful skills later on. Which you can also confirm on that google docs page, faster than messing around with it in game.
Here use this and click on artifacts.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jzvOrGDv6_3Sh9p6KG9LdO4pKPGioPhPvQFyoxEJ78o/htmlview#
As you can see though unless you have MYS up to a reasonable level its not that it will help you a ton as the regen time will be fairly slow. It regens in increments and you will normally hear some weird chime when you know the skill went off. Which is what you might be hearing already with your healer.
These types of games takes some folks to get used to at the start mainly because you do not feel exactly powerful and such. Also as with your situation here folks feel it is unusual that casters do not take a constant role either with having them sit around a lot early on. So just keep that in mind, but rest assured a mage is most def worth it once you level it up.
Other maniacs who are new to the genre like Q (usually hangs out in fighting game threads) went and totally destroyed multiple bosses with his samurai + rampage pick up pretty fast on the mechanics and do well.
I already used all my artifact gems been given to me so far, I assumed it would be useful to fill up all my characters' slots asap. And I didn't know the random drop was location based.
In any case abusing save/load for random drop sounds like a total pain, and not my idea of a fun time with a game. I guess I'll do without that skill. At least my Wizard is now level 6, so I shouldn't have to wait much longer before I can do something else than Defend.
But my biggest problem at the moment is that I have one remaining circle for Chronos and I can't find it. What the hell?
In any case abusing save/load for random drop sounds like a total pain, and not my idea of a fun time with a game. I guess I'll do without that skill. At least my Wizard is now level 6, so I shouldn't have to wait much longer before I can do something else than Defend.
But my biggest problem at the moment is that I have one remaining circle for Chronos and I can't find it. What the hell?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Play it how you want, just dont be surprised when you wind up with totally useless artifacts on occasion (useless in the sense that whatever was dropped does not match your playstyle / have any use). Its not actually that time consuming really doing the save / reload and makes things easier for you in the long run.
Also am sure others told you this but once again DO NOT SELL RARE ITEMS. As you will never get another one in your first playthrough.
You can tell what a rare item is by the Letter rating icon is a gold star mark I think it was.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
not really as mars is far more dangerous than chronos.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Early on dont bother wasting them. Its more meant for later in the game. All it does is up the invisible loot table value which increases the chance of better stuff getting dropped. For the most part you dont really need to worry about using them.
Audioboxer
Member
My copy from Play-Asia just arrived. Picked up the Global Edition as it was on sale and says it comes with English (it better lol).
Also got a physical copy of Drakengard 3.
Also got a physical copy of Drakengard 3.
cj_iwakura
Member
This final boss, good god almighty...
just beat
upon going to the Castle for the first time. Took me about five or six attempts. Lost a good 45 minutes of levelling up with the first defeat because I forgot to save beforehand and couldn't be arsed to redo all that so each fight thereafter I was at least one level below What I was that first time.
Really enjoying this game. Definitely gonna put some serious thought into buying tokyo abyss now.
Astarte
Really enjoying this game. Definitely gonna put some serious thought into buying tokyo abyss now.
cj_iwakura
Member
What in the fresh hell. I have never fought a more irritating final boss, EVER. Neither it nor his fricking summons ever stop auto-healing, and I can't do enough damage to keep up. They constantly cast their debuffs with perfect timing to the point where I run out of MP.
To hell with that.
To hell with that.
cj_iwakura
Member
Beaten, thank god. The back row exploit worked wonders. Put Paladin in the back, everyone in the front. Then when the boss swaps, it's how you want it, and no need to keep Whistle active.
Providence/Quad Element Dual Cast/Mars Rage/Jupiter Rage = ash in three turns. Oh, and with lots of buffs.
My thoughts on DG overall:
Pros:
Lots of variety in party builds. Love the skills and classes.
Battles are lightning fast. Every DC should have this feature.
Great dungeon variety, solid music(not fricking ambient effects).
Awesome demon designs.
Cons
Story is decent-okay with a few nice moments. I liked the MC and Manager's relationship, at least.
Uber creepy fan service elements. I was reluctant to play this at work on more than one occasion.
I'm sure Tokyo Abyss will fix all my gripes, so I can't wait. I know from playing Gen Xth how good Tokyo Abyss is.
Providence/Quad Element Dual Cast/Mars Rage/Jupiter Rage = ash in three turns. Oh, and with lots of buffs.
My thoughts on DG overall:
Pros:
Lots of variety in party builds. Love the skills and classes.
Battles are lightning fast. Every DC should have this feature.
Great dungeon variety, solid music(not fricking ambient effects).
Awesome demon designs.
Cons
Story is decent-okay with a few nice moments. I liked the MC and Manager's relationship, at least.
Uber creepy fan service elements. I was reluctant to play this at work on more than one occasion.
I'm sure Tokyo Abyss will fix all my gripes, so I can't wait. I know from playing Gen Xth how good Tokyo Abyss is.
Audioboxer
Member
About to start this. Should I just start with defaults? Character customization is a bit overwhelming.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Its up to you. Since those choices will matter for the race and class.
Audioboxer
Member
Is there a noob friendly choice? Just want to enjoy the game.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Starting the game, default what the game gives you.
When you buy new rooms, just accept the default characters. You should be able to clear the game with that for the most part.
cj_iwakura
Member
No chance in hell. You will need to strategize to have a chance in the end game. That boss was absolute nonsense.
You will absolutely NEED a Priest/Healer. I suggest Warrior/Paladin | Samurai/Priest/Wizard, but you do have some breathing room. Experiment and go with what works.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
if you are shit at the game maybe
considering the game gives you pretty much a paladin healer and mage all thats left is whatever you want as the last class
cj_iwakura
Member
Did you even beat the game? Jesus. The monster debuffs, switches your formations, heals, and keeps summoning demons. You're crazy if you think it was easy.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
also check the link below should have lots of info in there for you. was in the OT.
the ideal stats build section is important to look at along with the general stats information itself. since one thing you do not want to do is go putting stats points in wrong.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jzvOrGDv6_3Sh9p6KG9LdO4pKPGioPhPvQFyoxEJ78o/htmlview#
other info to look through for if you get stuck with something.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/vita/688105-demon-gaze/faqs/70068
other build info
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/688105-demon-gaze/69053340
Audioboxer
Member
Thanks!
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
No problem, enjoy and good luck!
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
haha interesting fight though eh?
Yeah it was fun, then I wrecked it.
Just beat Hermes on my lunch break. Compared to the Mimic, he was a cake walk. This game is too much fun. Can't wait for Operation Abyss!
So are there any specific gems I should hoard, or use very sparingly?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
The artifact gems you might want to savescum till you get the specific skills that you want. Since the skills (level of the skills) are separated by the dungeons. So if you are looking for a particular one you should go look up the info on which dungeon its located at. Reason why you do not want to waste those is that there is a set number that you can obtain through a single playthrough.
Also those bronze silver gold? gems you might want to save those for endgame as it will help your chance of getting more rare items. Though there is a bug with the game that if you use too many of the gold ones at once you can cause a the value to reset therefore negating the effect of the gems. Dont think they patched that issue. Its something thats existed since the JP version and was still in the global edition in Japan which means its in the US version too as thats what the global edition was. Though for the most part unless you are really trying to calculate and aim for stuff you dont have to worry about it too much. As its pretty condition specific.
Started the game a week ago and am enjoying it a lot. At the moment my party consists of Gazer/Paladin/Healer and Assassin and I just got enough money to buy a 5th room. I was thinking of getting another member for my backline but I can't decide between Ranger and Wizard. As far as I've read the Wizard has more of a support role and is quite a late bloomer whereas the Ranger is better in the beginning but falls off at the end. What would you guys roll with?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
If you want straight out right damage a ranger. But for something to use more later on esp with multiple targets a Wizard. Though there will be a section of the game where
magic becomes unusable in the underwater dungeon
Decided to roll with a Ranger. Let's see how well this goes.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
As long as you find a decent ranged weapon for the ranger you should be pretty well off.
Sithlord77
Banned
Ok I seemed to have hit a brick wall in terms of pregression. I just defeated Neptune and stuck on the next boss. Game has been fairly straightforward up to this point but this battle seems impossible even on easy. The jump in difficulty is ridiculous and off putting.
The boss I'm stuck on is the one when you use the item at the inn entrance and get teleported to the fight straight away.
She kills me in a few hits wtf? I'm level 15 ish with my characters. Gazer, paladin, samurai, archer and healer. Any advice?
The boss I'm stuck on is the one when you use the item at the inn entrance and get teleported to the fight straight away.
She kills me in a few hits wtf? I'm level 15 ish with my characters. Gazer, paladin, samurai, archer and healer. Any advice?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
2 things you can do 1 is lower the games difficulty or level up more. Since I dont remember too much at this point, looked up info and other folks had issues also. Following from Gfaqs.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/vita/688105-demon-gaze/faqs/70068
She hits quite hard but I thought the fight was still okay. My party was around your level but my Gazer was already at Lv 16 where he learns Demon Rage. Demon Rage is quite convinient for this fight since Mars in Rage Mode does huge amounts of damage. Other than that my Gazer kept whistling or Terra Baning while I used Devotion on my Paladin all the time. The first times I beat her at least one of my party members died. When I finally cleared it with all party members alive I was a bit lucky with her attack rotation.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Game might start off a little difficult for those new to the genre due to the low number of starting party members. First thing you should do once you make it to the first real dungeon is build up $$$ and equipment from the summoning circles. Then get a third party member by renting a new room which will come with a pre-set character or you can change it to another class if you want.
Outside of the main character, the first preset character you will get for free is a Paladin, though you can change it if you want. But for someone new to the genre do suggest using a Paladin as it is the tank of the game.
The third pre-set character will start off as a healer I think, but what people pick for their third choice varies depending on tastes / playstyle. If you want to go with the standard all round party then keeping the healer is a good general choice.
Also be sure to save often.
That and look through this. Since you will want to know about the stats and whatnots since those are important for knowing what to raise for your characters and not gimp your own character by putting points into a stat you dont need.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jzvOrGDv6_3Sh9p6KG9LdO4pKPGioPhPvQFyoxEJ78o/htmlview
Two important things to remember is
*taken from that doc
Other thing to remember is with unique items, if you sell them by accident you will not get another one with that current playthrough. You will be able to identify it by the section of the item info that shows the letter grade of the item the icon will be a star. Just be sure to not sell those by accident once again.
Heres a gfaqs link also. Should help if you are stuck in particular areas.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/vita/688105-demon-gaze/faqs/70068
I always hate it when a party member dies during a boss fight since it throws the whole exp gaining out of wack lol.
Tizoc
Member
Well I seem to have gotten a hang of the game now that I have 4 characters
Gazer+Fighter+Samurai+Ranger
Gonna get me a Healer soon then re-explore Hermes' domain as I went through it without Comet :V
If Hermes proves too strong, I'll just go through Pluto's domain.
BTW, on average what will be my max level by the end of the game?
Gazer+Fighter+Samurai+Ranger
Gonna get me a Healer soon then re-explore Hermes' domain as I went through it without Comet :V
If Hermes proves too strong, I'll just go through Pluto's domain.
BTW, on average what will be my max level by the end of the game?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
mid to high 30s.
Tizoc
Member
Interesting, thanks.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I cant remember if Demon Gaze had a skill that increased the encounter rate, since some of their other games do.
But the game does have the summoning circles which can also be used to level as long as you have a steady supply of gems to constantly throw down.
Hmm just looked through the skill list yeah does not seem like DG has it. Other games there are skills to increase or decrease the encounter rate.
Tizoc
Member
That reminds me...sometimes when a character levels up one of their stats would read +2.
Do I still have to put a point into that one for it to increase or is that applied either way? Cuz I swear my Ranger's stats were human meaning all base stats start at 9, and I've been putting points into STR whenever I level up because I see that +2 there and just assume it is applied.
...but when I go check their stats via the menu it's like only 1 stat ever increased when they level up >_>;
Do I still have to put a point into that one for it to increase or is that applied either way? Cuz I swear my Ranger's stats were human meaning all base stats start at 9, and I've been putting points into STR whenever I level up because I see that +2 there and just assume it is applied.
...but when I go check their stats via the menu it's like only 1 stat ever increased when they level up >_>;
the + signs mean, that they are getting stat bonuses from either gear or furniture. The number in front of the + is the "real" value of your stats without gear and furniture.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
not sure if the google doc has it but check that as all the locations are hidden and require you to kick walls where they are located at. might be via x y coordinates if tge doc has it.