BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Kinda puts in perspective why devs remove it after a while most of the time.
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Denuvo reportedly costs 25k a month
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Kinda puts in perspective why devs remove it after a while most of the time.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This industry needs a damned crash.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
....or layoffs
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Good point lol. You have to wonder if a lot of these games that use this junk would lose less than 25k a month from piracy.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Will Denuvo actually persuade 25000/60 = 417 pirates to buy games the first month?
winjer
Gold Member
Considering there are studies, even from official governments, that claim that Piracy does not reduce sales, it's a guarantee that devs are losing a lot more money from Denuvo, than from Pirates.
Devs are getting robbed blind by Denuvo. And then they have the nerve to whine that games are too expensive to make, when they are wasting so much money.
Worse yet, Denuvo by causing performance issues, is reducing sales.
Shake Your Rump
Member
To me Denuvo seems like one of those unnecessary things that the company just shops around to various corporations until they find some executive who falls for their sales pitch. Some executive who has the power to spend money that isn't his fell for the pitch and then the games get stuck with this shit.
I don't know if there is still an active player-base who avoids all things Denuvo, but I am one of them. I am actually considering buying Civilization 7 on console at launch almost solely due to this.
I don't know if there is still an active player-base who avoids all things Denuvo, but I am one of them. I am actually considering buying Civilization 7 on console at launch almost solely due to this.
Wildebeest
Member
If no manager ever loses their job for signing up for some tech product, then they get it.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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Senua
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LordOfChaos
Member
I remember when this was supposed to be the end of piracy. Didn't pan out so well, most releases are cracked pretty fast now.
That's also part of why devs remove it after a while - what they're protecting is the vital first few weeks and months of sales, after that it's going to be cracked anyways
That's also part of why devs remove it after a while - what they're protecting is the vital first few weeks and months of sales, after that it's going to be cracked anyways
Tertullian
Member
That's really cheap? I mean, that's 3 full years for less than a million. Drop in the bucket for a AAA game.
ReyBrujo
Gold Member
All statements are true yet if they use it it's because they get extra sales by using it, otherwise they wouldn't be using it in the first place.
Bojji
Member
Denuvo actually works. Most denuvo games aren't cracked until it is removed bu publisher.
I think 25k is not actual number, it's too low?
IFireflyl
Gold Member
I mean, Empress was the only one actively cracking Denuvo titles last I heard, and she (or he) is no longer doing that. As far as I know, Denuvo titles haven't been cracked in the last year-ish. Unless I am behind the times (which is very possible), that would indicate that Denuvo is effective. Now whether it is worth it is another question entirely.
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Sentenza
Member
I think the cost is actually supposed to scale proportionally to your volume of sales.
LordOfChaos
Member
Oh, it's probably me that's behind the times then. But then I guess it's more about this person retiring or wherever they went, Denuvo was at first hyped to be the end of piracy which it clearly wasn't.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
They are so far up their own asses. Most people that pirate can't afford the shit anyway. They're screwing themselves.
Edit: And legit customers.
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Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
I'm happy with the pricing model. At least it incentivizes publishers to remove the protection after a while, so fewer game preservation issues.
mayham2199
Member
I haven't gamed on PC in like 2-3 years now but last I checked Denuvo games were not cracked "fast". I like to pirate games so I can get my free trial for as long as I want but the games with Denuvo didn't have that option. So I was forced to use Steams free 2 hours. That's when I realized people online like to make shit up about how Denuvo doesn't work because I even saw people on Steam forums making that claim and when I actually tried to pirate the games that's when I realized oh it does work.
thekillergreece
Member
Cheap cost for games that sell millions like COD, TLOU, etc.
Expensive cost for games that sell less especially for indie games. This also applies to AAA games that will at some point face decreased sales as time goes by.
Some companies removed Denuvo from their games after a year or so. I believe it was because of declining sales over Denuvo's cost.
Expensive cost for games that sell less especially for indie games. This also applies to AAA games that will at some point face decreased sales as time goes by.
Some companies removed Denuvo from their games after a year or so. I believe it was because of declining sales over Denuvo's cost.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
It's already started
MMaRsu
Member
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Denuvo releases aren't being cracked by any sort of scène group.
So basically that means no one is cracking them at all.
Not to say I'm very much against Denuvo DRM. Its trash and great games sell well without intrusive drm.