Rumor: GeForce RTX 5080 Reportedly Costs Almost the MSRP To Manufacture ($900)
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It's 378 mm^2: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5080.c4217
The 5090 is the huge chip at 750 mm^2: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5090.c4216
FingerBang
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It's not marginally better than the 4090 and Blackwell is barely newer tech. At the moment it seems to not offer any improvement in efficiency nor better ray tracing. This, on top of the fact it doesn't exist a 999.
At MSRP both the 5070ti and the 9070xt offer better value.
P:axMagellanic
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We were warned about this when the 'founders' cards started appearing, then EVGA told us the screw was being tightened. Nvidias margin has steadily and methodically crept up to 70 percent. They've been trying to kill AiB's for years to create an apple like environment where they completely dominate every aspect of the supply chain.
It's bad for customers, because I still remember the days when AIB's had the freedom to be innovative.
It's bad for customers, because I still remember the days when AIB's had the freedom to be innovative.
Haint
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LOL we know the publicized sucker price for a TSMC 5nm wafer (which Nvidia pays less than being a top customer) and the size of the 5080 die. The chip itself costs somewhere between $100 - $150 depending on yields and Nvidia's unknown wafer discount rate. GDDR6 was $2 - $3 per GB, GDDR7 is probably a little more, but not substantially so. The complete 5080 board costs like $200 at worst, maybe $250 if you really want to be safe and wildly overestimate every component and step
I would absolutely believe that Nvidia sells this $200 board to the AIBs for $800 though.
I would absolutely believe that Nvidia sells this $200 board to the AIBs for $800 though.
coolmast3r
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Sure, Jan. You'd think GPUs would get ever more affordable as tech matures, but no, this apparently can't possibly be the case since the line has to go up. Gotta ride that AI bubble until it inevitably deflates from existence.
NomenNescio
Dual Sense Edger and Blower
Nah, 5070 is so mid. High-end starts in the 80's.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
I assume this is the price for partners, i.e. Huang is making a ton selling the chip to them and they make small margins. This is true for most electronics that aren't apple.
Lucifers Beard
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And this is why the whole thing is bullshit. The 4090 should never had been over £700-800. Same goes for the other cards.Bull fucking shit
The 4090 was under 500 to manufacturer and package.
Spitballing Nvidia's RTX 5090 GPU die manufacturing costs — die could cost as little as $290 to make
Not too cheap.www.tomshardware.com
Bry0
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A VENDOR said this. Which implies nvidia is selling them to AIBs at this cost, which is why all the 5080s are actually selling for $500 over msrp.
FingerBang
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The base 5070 is a piece of crap, I agree. The Ti has pretty good performance for 750, being really close to the 4080. The issue is the MSRP being fake.
If I were to recommend a sweet spot for someone wanting to get into pc gaming, I'd go with the 9070xt and 5070ti. Which is sad because they cost as much as a high end card cost 4 years ago.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
It's present in all games. the 4090 is objectively faster than the 5080 in all aspects.
This is assuming it even pops in the near future if at all.
and even if it does, what does that say? wouldn't they just raise prices even more to get margins off gamers? we've proven to buy at these high prices and either way the only difference is that there will actually be stock this time.
FingerBang
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It will pop, but the demand might still be really high. Nvidia charging those prices? Not for long. Between competition getting fierce and the creation of chips/systems that might be better at those tasks that GPUs (like it happened for bitcoin mining), Nvidia's dominance is not going to last forever.
That said, we need to hope no other boom/shortage of sort happens. Prices are never going down if supply lags demand.
Mister Wolf
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Third best.
RafterXL
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Sure, lol. The ONE and ONLY pro the 5080 has is MFG. And for being old tech, the new tech isn't exactly great or it wouldn't have to rely on MFG. The fact is, if they repackaged the 4090 and sold it at the same price as the 5080, no one would buy the 5080.
Ok, now compare the 4080 to the 3090. Or a 3080 vs a 2080 Ti or even a Titan. Check a 1070 vs a 980. The flagship card of the previous gen has been outpaced by the next step down with each new generation, but this gen is significantly worse. Hell, even the 5090 isn't as good as previous gens.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
I don't know. I feel like this whole betting on the AI pop thing when it's still stayed persistent after all these years (even when people stopped caring) just doesn't do much. What if DeepSeek gets sanctioned in the US? It's Chinese so it could 100% happen. Then Nvidia still has a monopoly for all western AI efforts.
And I still feel like Nvidia and AMD will find some way to still overcharge after all the datacenters and AI implode. It's how GPUs still cost so much even after the whole Crypto mining shit in 2021, they just raised the MSRP of everything.