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[ManaByte]

I heard about this referenced today and it apparently was from an episode of The Today Show back in July.

While promoting the Manchurian Candidate, Meryl Streep referenced something in the New Testament in an effort to attack the war, and Denzel (a son of a preacher) beat her down and shut her up as she didn't know what the fuck she was talking about. :lol :lol

His beat down wasn't politically motivated, he was just shutting up Meryl Streep when she was talking about something she obviously didn't know anything about.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5489846/

Streep: "It was a question about when you put Jesus on the campaign bus to stump for you, you have to really listen to what he says, because he says, ‘If a man smite thee on the cheek, let you turn the other that he may smite it also.’ And he says, ‘He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.’ And he says, ‘Love thine enemy.’ Jesus could have raised an army against the people that persecuted him. He didn't. So that's what I was pointing out in my speech, and I couldn't really imagine Jesus, like I couldn't imagine how Jesus would vote. Jesus was the Prince of Peace. Would the Prince of Peace vote for a war President?"

Washington: "And it's open to interpretation. Jesus also went into the temple and kicked everybody out."

Streep: "That's kicking the money-changers out of the temple."

Washington: "Well, you're right. So—"

Streep: "The money-changers should get out of Congress, I agree. And I agree, but he didn't—"

Washington: "He didn't. He didn't only say turn the other cheek though. You’ve got to read the whole book. That's not what all he said."

Streep: "Oh, I do read the whole book."

Washington: "I do too. And that's not all he said."

Streep: "What does he say that said 'pick up a stick and kill somebody?'"

Washington: "Like I said, he did go into the temple and cleared the place well—"

Streep: "Of money, yeah."

Washington: "Okay, well, we're all—"

Streep: "Money's bad."

Washington: "We all make money. So does that make us bad? Maybe he's talking about us?"

Streep: "Well, yeah, maybe."

There's more in the transcript that shows why Denzel Washington fucking rules.

 

[Maxwell House]

They're both idiots for believing in the Bible.

 

[AstroLad]

Damn if you think Denzel "fucking rules" for doing this, this guy would blow your "motherfucking" mind:

 

[Doth Togo]

Drink more beer.

 

[Leon]

Damn. For a moment there, I thought we could have possibly been witnessing history.

On the forums page (where you choose OT or gaming forum), the subject preview went like "Denzel Washington beats down...". I click, anxious to see WHO he beat down. I read Meryl Streep, and for half a second there, I was elated.

 

[Socreges]

I'm not impressed with the above. But this was great:

Couric: "Denzel, are you-- do you feel-- you know some people say Hollywood folks should stick to acting."

Washington: "I don't know what Hollywood folks are, first of all. Hollywood is a town that has some stars on the sidewalk. I don't know anybody from there. So, I don't-- that's like saying-- calling you a type of folks. I'm not a Hollywood folk. I don't know who they are."

Couric: "Okay, all right, well, let me rephrase the question. Are you one of those people that—"

Washington: "Ah, there you go. Am I one of those people? Hmmm, isn't that interesting?"

Couric: "Oh, stop, stop, stop."

Washington: "No, don't stop. I heard what you just said. "Am I one of those people?" No, I'm not."

Couric: "No, are you an actor who would rather not—"

Washington: "No, I'm not that either. I'm a human being. My job is acting."

 

[ManaByte]

Damn if you think Denzel "fucking rules" for doing this, this guy would blow your "motherfucking" mind:

Denzel rules because the typical thing in Hollywood is to do exactly what Streep was doing, and he didn't put up with that shit.

Couric: "Denzel, are you-- do you feel-- you know some people say Hollywood folks should stick to acting."

Washington: "I don't know what Hollywood folks are, first of all. Hollywood is a town that has some stars on the sidewalk. I don't know anybody from there. So, I don't-- that's like saying-- calling you a type of folks. I'm not a Hollywood folk. I don't know who they are."

Couric: "Okay, all right, well, let me rephrase the question. Are you one of those people that—"

Washington: "Ah, there you go. Am I one of those people? Hmmm, isn't that interesting?"

Couric: "Oh, stop, stop, stop."

Washington: "No, don't stop. I heard what you just said. "Am I one of those people?" No, I'm not."

Couric: "No, are you an actor who would rather not—"

Washington: "No, I'm not that either. I'm a human being. My job is acting."

 

[FightyF]

Washington: "No, I'm not that either. I'm a human being. My job is acting."

BINGO.

That shoots down all those who say actors should stick to acting rather than voicing their opinion on politics. They are citizens, they have every right to.

 

[GG-Duo]

What is Denzel's position on the current Administration? Y'know, since he was so good in The Siege and all...

EDIT: btw, clicking "View Post" is a cumbersome task

 

[ManaByte]

What is Denzel's position on the current Administration? Y'know, since he was so good in The Siege and all...

Only this in the transcript:

Couric: "And how do you feel about the current political situation?"

Washington: "You know, I haven't seen ‘Fahrenheit 9/11,’ because I live in America. I grew up here. I'm an ex-slave. I'm a result of what this country can do. So it's nothing knew to me. I'm not surprised at all. It's just business as usual. What I want to talk about is, what are we doing right now, today, for these young kids that are coming home? Are we embracing them? I don't hear about them being lifted up. I mean, I'm not just talking about a parade but—"

Couric: "Are they getting the support they need."

Washington: "Are they getting the support and love they need from us? And maybe that story's being told, but I sure haven't seen it that much in the news. Yeah, they're pointing fingers about who was right and whose wrong and who started what and where the weapons of mass destruction. But these kids are coming home."

Streep: "Uh-huh."

Washington: "You know, I have a son, 19, 19-year-olds are coming home completely different."

 

[Zaptruder]

Well Jesus had pretty overwhelming evidence with people doing shit in his temples... so you know, if you want to get down to specifics, he kicked ass when he knew exactly what was happening. But he didn't go in all rambo style and kill people. He just kicked their ass and asked them to respect the temple.

Anyway... I'm confused on Denzel's stance... what's he for? Is he for war? is he for Bush? Or does he not want to be stereotyped and go for Nader instead?

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Anyway... I'm confused on Denzel's stance... what's he for? Is he for war? is he for Bush? Or does he not want to be stereotyped and go for Nader instead?

well one thing is for sure....KING KONG AINT GOT SHIT ON HIM!

 

[AstroLad]

Denzel rules because the typical thing in Hollywood is to do exactly what Streep was doing, and he didn't put up with that shit.

Oh yeah, and the whole he's cool b/c he's an "outsider" and "doesn't know anyone from Hollywood" act is real authentic and awesome. What you're accusing "Hollywood people" of doing is exactly what the fuck you're splooging over Denzel for doing here, only a fucking braindead idiot fall for the celeb who says "oh I'm not political, I don't have anything to say about any issues, I'm just a regular guy" card and then goes on to do exactly what he says he's not doing. If you agree with it in this context just b/c you like the message then you're just a hypocrite, but you probably have no problem with that. Last I checked, btw, Denzel, there haven't exactly been daily boatloads of fucking troops coming back to "lift up" so that's not exactly as big of an issue as the ones being fucking blown up over there. Read a fucking paper, Mega Star.

 

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truth.

 

[Socreges]

Oh yeah, and the whole he's cool b/c he's an "outsider" and "doesn't know anyone from Hollywood" act is real authentic and awesome. What you're accusing "Hollywood people" of doing is exactly what the fuck you're splooging over Denzel for doing here, only a fucking braindead idiot fall for the celeb who says "oh I'm not political, I don't have anything to say about any issues, I'm just a regular guy" card and then goes on to do exactly what he says he's not doing. If you agree with it in this context just b/c you like the message then you're just a hypocrite, but you probably have no problem with that. Last I checked, btw, Denzel, there haven't exactly been daily boatloads of fucking troops coming back to "lift up" so that's not exactly as big of an issue as the ones being fucking blown up over there. Read a fucking paper, Mega Star.

His point wasn't that he's not one of those people, but that there ISN'T a "those people". Couric was promoting the idea, as it so often happens, that anyone who acts in movies should ultimately be defined beyond that. I think, in the least, that can be debated. I side with Denzel Washington.

 

[AstroLad]

His point wasn't that he's not one of those people, but that there ISN'T a "those people". Couric was promoting the idea, as it so often happens, that anyone who acts in movies should ultimately be defined beyond that. I think, in the least, that can be debated. I side with Denzel Washington.

Ha, that's what he's trying to do, but he's equivocating at fuck. Basically he makes no sense throughout b/c he's pussyfooting around everything. He did, however, make the logical deduction that he didn't see Fahrenheit 9/11 because he lives in America. Which is really a brilliant point.

Besides, I'm following the lead of the thread-starter, who said "Denzel rules because the typical thing in Hollywood is to do exactly what Streep was doing, and he didn't put up with that shit." Denzel vs. Typical Hollywood People!

 

[Fresh Prince]

BINGO.

That shoots down all those who say actors should stick to acting rather than voicing their opinion on politics. They are citizens, they have every right to.

IAWTP, since their celebrities and people do want to listen- it travels further.

 

[Socreges]

Ha, that's what he's trying to do, but he's equivocating at fuck. Basically he makes no sense throughout b/c he's pussyfooting around everything.

He just sounds frustrated to me. This is a dialogue, after all. I don't expect him to articulate himself terribly well. I could just infer what he meant.

 

[MetatronM]

I'm not impressed with the above. But this was great:

I'm with you. What Mana posted wasn't evena beat-down. It was an argument/debate that pretty much went nowhere. What he did to Katie Couric...THAT was a beat-down. A frustrated, angry beat-down, but a beat-down nonetheless.

All in all, points for Denzel.

 

[Ned Flanders]

Damn if you think Denzel "fucking rules" for doing this, this guy would blow your "motherfucking" mind:

Hey, leave me out of this..

 

[Mercurial]

He's an ex-slave? Whoa.

 

[Late Stage Marxist]

:lol This thread sucks.

 

[Mandark]

Hey Manabyte, you're stupid. You'll never touch a girl. You have absolutely no concept of Christian theology. You haven't read the Bible. Washington doesn't show any deeper an understanding of the Bible than Streep does in that excerpt. You threaten to sue people on the internet. You only like what Washington did because it seems contrarian. All the new Star Wars movies suck. No girl will ever touch you. You were Playstation Type C. The goatee isn't working.

 

[Pellham]

How do you know that they believe in the bible literally? They could quoting it in the same way they could be quoting greek mythology. To automatically become negative against anyone who uses the bible for any reason is extreme close-mindedness.

The bible is a great piece of literature, much in the way that Greek and Norse mythologies, the koran, and others are great works of literature.

 

[Chipopo]

The thread gets more interesting!

 

[Firest0rm]

This has alot of potential on the internet

 

[Ill Saint]

Hey Manabyte, you're stupid. You'll never touch a girl. You have absolutely no concept of Christian theology. You haven't read the Bible. Washington doesn't show any deeper an understanding of the Bible than Streep does in that excerpt. You threaten to sue people on the internet. You only like what Washington did because it seems contrarian. All the new Star Wars movies suck. No girl will ever touch you. You were Playstation Type C. The goatee isn't working.

Heh. Doh...

 

[karasu]

Uh, Jesus kicked them out because they were doing buisness in a temple. Not because they were people who simply made money. Denzel didn't beat Streep down at all.

 

[soundwave05]

Jesus made his position on violence very clear in the Bible (it's a no no -- those who live by the sword shall perish by it). He reiterates this several times including the sermon on the Mount (turn the other cheek).

That's not something Meryl Streep just made up.

I like Denzel, but if that is open to interpretation then you might as well just throw the entire book out because everything then can be interpreted a certain way for any purpose.

In fact one of the reason's why Christ was crucified in the first place is because the Hewbrew messiah was prophesized to be a military "messiah", one that would destroy the Romans who oppressed the Jews. When Jesus came around speaking about "love thine enemy" and "those who live by the sword shall die by it", it created a strong backlash against him.

 

[FoneBone]

Hey Manabyte, you're stupid. You'll never touch a girl. You have absolutely no concept of Christian theology. You haven't read the Bible. Washington doesn't show any deeper an understanding of the Bible than Streep does in that excerpt. You threaten to sue people on the internet. You only like what Washington did because it seems contrarian. All the new Star Wars movies suck. No girl will ever touch you. You were Playstation Type C. The goatee isn't working.

Not bad, but you need to work in his fixation with utterly insane alien conspiracy theories.

 

[soundwave05]

Does Manabyte know that Natalie Portman is a big time liberal btw? :lol