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[Gucci Messiah]

Even though I haven't worked out in almost a week, I'm fatigued all the time and my muscles are sore, especially my back. My heart rate has been very irregular and I've been sleeping a lot more than I used to.

My friend told me that these might be physical signs of anxiety or depression. What do you guys think?

I've noticed that I sleep a lot more and am generally fatigued when dealing with anxiety or depression which is often, but I'm no doctor...

These days I find myself sitting in my dorm room alone taking bong hits, listening to music and playing Xbox. This girl I liked stopped talking to me for no reason which sucks because I was into her, I have a bad habit of falling for people quickly. This seems to happen with every single girl I'm actually interested in for more than just sex which sucks and leaves me feeling super lonely. I guess it doesn't help that I become an introvert to cope.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Exercising is just generally a good idea, and it forces you to get off your butt and stew about depression.

This is entirely anecdotal and not at all a reason to not try, but I've found during bouts of my bad depression, I was spending at least an hour a day on an elliptical and that amount of conditioning, followed by my non-existant appetite brought about by the depression made me lose a dangerous amount of weight in a short time. And I didn't necessarily "feel" good either.

Two things:
1) Cardio is not always the best option. Lifting weights will likely be better for you.
2) If you work out for an hour and then don't eat then you're depleting your energy reserves and that will negate any positive impact from the release of hormones following intense exercise.

Depression seems like a stubborn refusal to let go of a self-sustaining behavioural pattern. You can't ever get out of that loop if you're always looking for reasons to keep it going. "Oh, but you don't understand... my problems are much greater because of ______, and I can't do that because of _______. I need ________ before I can ________."

If you step outside of the shackles of the mind and be objective about it you can create new behavioural patterns that benefit you. Those thought patterns will influence how you perceive yourself and the world, and in turn your brain chemistry will react accordingly.

 

[Songbird]

It's a horrible feeling when you get stuck in a spiral of questioning whether or not your unhappiness is genuine or an excuse to whore attention from people with real problems.

 

[Insane Metal]

Feeling pretty bad today. I should be doing some college stuff, but I'm absolutely bored and uninspired. And to make things worse I screwed the wheel from my sister's car yesterday. Actually it wasn't my fault, but still... I'm feeling bad for it.

I need a change in my life. =[

Fuck. Today I went to the mechanic. R$ 2140 bucks to fix it (Brazil's currency). That's about US$ 1140. I'm basically unemployed. I'm fucked. One of my relatives will pay for it for me and I'll pay him later. But that's just GREAT.

And the worst part is hearing from my sister that everything that breaks in the car is my fault, that I have no care with it etc. We had a big argument today. FML.

 

[Xun]

It saddens me to think where I'd be without a mental disorder, it really does.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

It saddens me to think where I'd be without a mental disorder, it really does.

That is pure fantasy and not useful to you. Now is the only thing that exists and the only time when you can begin to change your life for the better, but you're spending it by feeling sorry for yourself. It ain't going to get any better by doing that.

 

[Fantasmo]

I went through some things years back. I've finally forgiven myself for my transgressions and pain but now I'm left with the reputation of a drunk and a weirdo. I have few friends and even fewer friends who really understand where I'm coming from and they aren't very social either.

I've ruined my reputation even though I was experiencing chronic extensive PTSD. I want to make friends but nobody wants to be my friend. it doesn't help that I'm 32 and living at home and just starting to save a little bit of money and live in a very selfish uppity town. I'm not sure what to do or even where to start.

 

[mj1108]

I've never had depression but I can tell you that I fucking hate it. In the last 4 months I've learned more about it than I think I've ever known. I started seeing this amazing woman last year. Everything was going great for a few months....then just like that she lost feelings for me due to her depression and proceeded to push me away. She said she doesn't want a relationship with anyone now. It pisses me off since things had been going so well between us and this was literally out of left field. It makes it even more difficult that we share the same circle of friends.

We just recently started talking again and she's currently going on and off her medication and seeing a counselor. She's still not interested in any relationship with anyone and wants us to be friends right now. I don't hate her at all and I do care for her, but it still makes me mad. Since this happened we haven't had the same line of communication since. It used to be that we could sit and talk for hours, bounce jokes off each other, etc...but now due to what she's going through there's times when we talk and it feels like old times and others you just can't talk to her.

I'm glad I don't have depression, but I really feel awful for those that do.

 

[Banglish]

I think working on improving health is a beginning to the end of depression. If I spend a week doing nothing I feel like shit and go back to my depressed state of mind and disrespect myself in my head. If I workout an hour every day I feel great, even If I don't workout everyday hard, I try to do something, like take a walk outside to clear my mind of all negative thought. I am able to do more things with a clear head, than with all those negative thoughts. I hate negative thoughts, all they do is create more negative energy and I feel worse If I think bad things. It isn't an end all, but it's a start. I can be fitter and healthier than I am right now, and so can you. We need to push ourselves. The past is the past, we can't change that. We can change our future by thinking differently at present.

 

[carpediemdp]

Just wanted to give an update on my situation. Maybe it'll help someone, most probably it wont, but I want to share it with you guys.

Last week was probably one of the worst ones in my life. Had daily panic attacks, where I had to leave my work for an hour or two and wait until I calm myself down and not feel embarassed thinking about everyone at work seeing me explode. Couldn't sleep, couldn't eat. And worst part was I kept accumulating anger like hell. Thursday was the worst. I think I topped my stress levels that day cause I got back home feeling physically sick.

I woke up on friday tired of feeling like the worst shit ever and called a girl i haven't talked with since I graduated from college. Told her if she wanted to do something on saturday night. She was thrilled. It was awesome. We talked for hours. I even had the chance to talk about my emotional problems to her and she just listened. Didn't judge me at all. I felt like a gigantic weight was taken off my back. She told me I should hook up next time with her bf and theri group of friends next time. I was finally able to cry, to give myself the moment and cry, let it all flow. Today was even better. Don't know what happened with me but I finally got hold of myself and didn't check what my ex gf was doing. Another huge weight was taken from my back. Today I felt something I haven't felt in YEARS: I was able to get a hold of myself, to trully control my emotions. I did't have a single panic attack. I now feel I'm ready to let got many things that are crushing me. I feel I have the strength to go back to the doctor and restart my treatment. I feel I have the strength to stop drinking like mad just to shut my inner voice up. Today I finally found the strength to talk to my parents about what bothers me about them, about our relationship.

I had so many thing filled up inside me. So many things. I feel lighter now. I still have a problem, I am still sick, but know I feel this thing can be worked out and I can be happy about myself again.

 

[Bagels]

*Accidentally posted in a thread about PSP RPGs*

I forgot to add this to my list of resources about depression:

This is a widely used workbook that walks you through cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). It's often used as the text in group therapy sessions, but can also be used on your own.

I think many people put too much stock in the idea that, if you can just stop thinking depressed thoughts, you can cure yourself of depression. It can be helpful to think of depression as like an autoimmune disorder. How does your body fight off an attack from your immune system if the immune system is exactly what your body uses to fight off that kind of an attack? So, in depression, you're trying to out think a diseased mind using...your mind. You have to understand that people aren't willfully going, "well, my life is shit and there's no way out." The illness is causing your mind to work in that way.

Having said that, part of the treatment for depression does involve trying to change the way you think. This is where psychotherapies like CBT come in. CBT is a structured method for examining your thoughts and identifying the unhelpful messages being generated by your sick brain. The questions asked in Mind over Mood, or asked by a therapist, are sort of a way to examine your mind from the outside. You sort of run CBT as an external, extra mind (I really like the idea of embodied cognition so I'll end the analogy here before I REALLY start rambling!), if that makes any sense.

Anyway, it has been consistently shown that the combination of CBT and medication(s) works better than either approach used in isolation. If you want to see what CBT is all about, don't have access to a therapist, can't afford professional help, or are absolutely opposed to taking any medications, you can get a surprising amount of help from your $15 copy of Mind over Mood.

Exercise and Depression

This is brought up very frequently. Exercise is obviously generally a good thing for your overall health, but it can be incredibly difficult to take up when you're depressed. Hell, it can be hard to take up when you're not depressed.

I need to look at the literature more, but the last I checked, it seemed like there was good support for the use of exercise in mild to moderate depression. In fact, in some cases, as someone mentioned above, exercise alone can work as well as an antidepressant. However, it doesn't seem to work for severe depression - it can make you feel better, but not enough to "cure" your depression. These studies are hard to do, so I want to spend some time digging around in the psychiatric literature.

I mentioned it in another thread, but it's worth repeating. ANYONE can search the medical literature through pubmed, a giant database of published research with abstracts and links to the actual articles (which may be free or may be available through a university library). There are ways to optimize your searches, but you'd be surprised what you can find with a keyword search for "depression" and "exercise." If you're not a science type, look for review articles - these are summaries of the latest research on a particular topic.

If you need help or want to discuss something interesting that you find, I'm happy to talk here or in PM.

Keep at it, depressed people! We can fight this thing!

 

[Uchip]

what amazes me is that depression is so prevalent, and yet a majority of people hold a negative attitude towards people that suffer from it.

While it can be difficult to tell the difference between someone thats having a bad day and someone thats truely depressed, the social stigma thats attached to it is so great that it actually works towards keeping people in that state.

has there actually been any kind of campaigns to raise awareness?

 

[Timedog]

I'm trying that. I'm actually waiting till 7 a.m. when my gym opens.

One workout isn't going to do much. Having a highly functioning body from repeatedly working towards goals will do wonders. Our bodies are not evolutionarily adapted to a sedentary lifestyle. When your body doesn't feel like it's supposed to, of course your brain won't feel like it's supposed to.

 

[Jburton]

How about anybody else?

The post he's replying to was from earlier this month. Basically if anybody would be interested in getting together in a chat to talk, instead of throwing posts up in here. It might work better in real-time.

Certainly, I would be interested.

Long time sufferer of depression (mid teens now early thirties), many different meds, different therapy types, dabbled in self med (didn't realise at the time I was) with large amounts of E, weed, hard liquor, codiene, benzo (now sober), self harm in my teenage years (still would have a tendacy when drunk) .....

...... hospital admission (breakdown), almost killed myself with large co-codamol dose, sucidal thoughts most days, continual fight with anxiety and panic attacks (don't like large crowds, going outside sometimes) ....

anyway I know the feelings very well, feel like I have enough of a hold to keep myself from plummeting into the very depths,

Feel free to PM me anytime (anyone) if you need someone to talk to, or someone just to shut up and listen.

 

[carpediemdp]

How about anybody else?

The post he's replying to was from earlier this month. Basically if anybody would be interested in getting together in a chat to talk, instead of throwing posts up in here. It might work better in real-time.

Didn't read your other post, but I'm in. I strongly feel now that talking is a great help for many of us.

 

[grap3fruitman]

Edit: This is probably not a good idea.

 

[Uchip]

I would like to make a scene somehow.

Thats kind of irrelevant really

 

[Bagels]

How about anybody else?

The post he's replying to was from earlier this month. Basically if anybody would be interested in getting together in a chat to talk, instead of throwing posts up in here. It might work better in real-time.

I'm certainly up for this. I suffer from depression (tried many meds, talk therapies, was hospitalized, and have finally gotten better), read widely for personal and professional interest, and am working on a career as a psychiatrist and neuroscientist (returning to medical school next month for 3rd and 4th year after having completed my Masters). Depression is my major illness, hobby, and job.

 

[Bagels]

what amazes me is that depression is so prevalent, and yet a majority of people hold a negative attitude towards people that suffer from it.

While it can be difficult to tell the difference between someone thats having a bad day and someone thats truely depressed, the social stigma thats attached to it is so great that it actually works towards keeping people in that state.

has there actually been any kind of campaigns to raise awareness?

Check out nami.org. There are other awareness efforts as well, but this is the big national group.

You're absolutely right - it's baffling that depression is so prevalent and so stigmatized/misunderstood/not believed to actually exist.

 

[mt1200]

Well I cant speak for everyone, but it worked for me and I know its helped a lot of other people too.

I spent years of my life secluding myself from the rest of the world, having no friends, every day spent for years playing games or on the internet. Its not easy getting your life on track, I still have work to do, but bodybuilding has helped SO MUCH. I cannot empathize what it has done to me. You get far, far more than just a great body, thats just the tip of the iceberg.

It has given me happiness, a passion, a mindset that I can actually achieve something great and so much more. A year ago I had none of this.

Gym seems to make everyone happy. Too bad that with a full time job and college, I don't have time for that.

Spoiler

Who would be sad with stone-hard abs?

 

[ghostofsparta]

How many of you guys drink alcohol?

I never have, I told myself I never would. I just didn't see a point for it.

However I've I'm tired of being sad and nobody giving a fuck. I've heard some people say they drink when they are sad and that it "makes the sadness go away". Is this true? Don't give me any "try it and find out" junk, just tell me your experiences. I'm 21 in case you were wondering.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Yeah dude, drinking a few beers will make you feel better about some stuff. I mean, if you're the midst of a truly manic moment drinking booze is probably a really bad idea. But if you're feeling pretty "normal" then yeah, go buy a 24oz bottle of Heineken or even a cider since beer will probably taste weird if you've never tasted it before. Turn the lights down, grab some headphones and just step away from your troubles for a while.

 

[Xun]

Gym seems to make everyone happy. Too bad that with a full time job and college, I don't have time for that.

Spoiler

Who would be sad with stone-hard abs?

You do both? That must be tough.

How many of you guys drink alcohol?

I never have, I told myself I never would. I just didn't see a point for it.

However I've I'm tired of being sad and nobody giving a fuck. I've heard some people say they drink when they are sad and that it "makes the sadness go away". Is this true? Don't give me any "try it and find out" junk, just tell me your experiences. I'm 21 in case you were wondering.

Try and go out with mates to a bar or something.

Alcohol will enhance whatever mood you're in, and for me personally when I'm out with friends I feel pretty decent so it just enhances that a lot.

Drinking something you enjoy (it can take a while to find a drink you'll enjoy, but it will be out there) + mates + buzz = good time

I was amazed at how much more free I feel when I started to drink a bit.

Yeah dude, drinking a few beers will make you feel better about some stuff. I mean, if you're the midst of a truly manic moment drinking booze is probably a really bad idea. But if you're feeling pretty "normal" then yeah, go buy a 24oz bottle of Heineken or even a cider since beer will probably taste weird if you've never tasted it before. Turn the lights down, grab some headphones and just step away from your troubles for a while.

Definitely.

Drinking alone can be fine, but I would say that going out with friends is better.

 

[Uchip]

Check out nami.org. There are other awareness efforts as well, but this is the big national group.

You're absolutely right - it's baffling that depression is so prevalent and so stigmatized/misunderstood/not believed to actually exist.

interesting, but im not American

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

I've heard some people say they drink when they are sad and that it "makes the sadness go away". Is this true?

The effects of alcohol, along with most if not all mind-altering substances, are fairly complex and dynamic. Is it "true?" For some people, definitely. For others, alcohol can live up to its classification: depressant.

You put your "don't tell me to try it myself" thing, but no one can tell you jack shit about how you'll experience something, whatever that something might be and you know this already.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Perhaps people who are depressed should just try completely changing their lifestyle. You can't change yourself for the better if you remain around the same things that helped create (and currently exist to sustain) your depression.

Remove the triggers and you put yourself on the path to change.

 

[Jimothy]

Perhaps people who are depressed should just try completely changing their lifestyle. You can't change yourself for the better if you remain around the same things that helped create (and currently exist to sustain) your depression.

Remove the triggers and you put yourself on the path to change.

So get rid of myself basically?

Okay.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

So get rid of myself basically?

Okay.

With that comment you're showing me that you're twisting things to fit your conditioned perception of reality.

When you remove yourself from the very things that cause to behave the way you do you'll see that your behaviour is entirely a sequence of conditioned mental responses. In a way it is like a computer that repeats programming, only in our case we are a computer that can change it's own programmed responses.

Have a look into George Kelly's "personal construct theory" (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_construct_psychology)

I understand how it is to feel helpless and at other people's mercy but you have the power to take control of your own mind and your own life.

 

[PwnCakes193]

With that comment you're showing me that you're twisting things to fit your conditioned perception of reality.

When you remove yourself from the very things that cause to behave the way you do you'll see that your behaviour is entirely a sequence of conditioned mental responses. In a way it is like a computer that repeats programming, only in our case we are a computer that can change it's own programmed responses.

Have a look into George Kelly's "personal construct theory" (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_construct_psychology)

He speaks the truth. I'm taking CBT right now and I can tell there's a difference, just getting rid of those automatic thoughts and reactions I always had. Once you start adjusting your choices and thoughts to something positive, you will notice a difference, slowly, but trust me it will be there.

 

[ghostofsparta]

The effects of alcohol, along with most if not all mind-altering substances, are fairly complex and dynamic. Is it "true?" For some people, definitely. For others, alcohol can live up to its classification: depressant.

You put your "don't tell me to try it myself" thing, but no one can tell you jack shit about how you'll experience something, whatever that something might be and you know this already.

True but I just wanted to know how you guys feel about it.

As for going out with people I probably could get some one to go to a bar with me but I've always been against social drinking. It's insulting when people drink when I'm with them. It's like I'm so damn boring that they have to drink in order to enjoy being with me.
Any ways next time I feel really down I'm going to pick up some booze and let you guys know how it went.

 

[neojubei]

So get rid of myself basically?

Okay.

That was my answer when I first posted here I think.

Exercising is just generally a good idea, and it forces you to get off your butt and stew about depression.

This is entirely anecdotal and not at all a reason to not try, but I've found during bouts of my bad depression, I was spending at least an hour a day on an elliptical and that amount of conditioning, followed by my non-existant appetite brought about by the depression made me lose a dangerous amount of weight in a short time. And I didn't necessarily "feel" good either.

I lost about thirty pounds over the course of a few short months, and was well below my normal target weight, and part of my medication regiment is mirtazapine, which helps increase appetite. This probably isn't the case for everyone though.

I do second the recommendation that when you're feeling miserable and can't manage to get out of bed, if you can force yourself to read a few pages in a book about depression, it's SOMETHING remotely productive. The one that has helped me the most is "Feeling Good" by David Burns. He's one of the doctors that developed the cognitive behavioral therapy method, which has been infinitely more helpful than the other forms of therapy I've had. The chapter on guilt is particularly helpful, although of course not a cureall.

Also worth noting that in Freud's day, his method for dealing with depression was to tell the patient that their self-defeating opinions of worthlessness were "right", because the patient knew themselves better than anyone else. Anyone who has had a bout of major depression (I've been hospitalized for it myself) knows that this is inherently dangerous, and a good way to steer someone closer to suicide between sessions.

I'm reading the book feeling good and it's not really helping me at all

 

[Xun]

True but I just wanted to know how you guys feel about it.

As for going out with people I probably could get some one to go to a bar with me but I've always been against social drinking. It's insulting when people drink when I'm with them. It's like I'm so damn boring that they have to drink in order to enjoy being with me.
Any ways next time I feel really down I'm going to pick up some booze and let you guys know how it went.

Like I said don't drink if you're feeling down.

Sometimes it helps, but sometimes it'll make things worse.

Why don't you try and drink with some of your friends? It shouldn't be insulting at all.

 

[neojubei]

Having a bad time here in Japan. Doubt there is any place on this planet I could feel comfortable in. God just wants to see me suffer. I never asked to be born or have this life. I hate my parents for bringing me into horrid world. If there is a god then maybe I can just go quietly in my sleep.

 

[Mercury Fred]

Having a bad time here in Japan. Doubt there is any place on this planet I could feel comfortable in. God just wants to see me suffer. I never asked to be born or have this life. I hate my parents for bringing me into horrid world. If there is a god then maybe I can just go quietly in my sleep.

Girl, get a grip.

 

[neojubei]

Girl, get a grip.

So easy for you to say. There really isn't any point to life at all and no one can say otherwise.

 

[Log4Girlz]

One workout isn't going to do much. Having a highly functioning body from repeatedly working towards goals will do wonders. Our bodies are not evolutionarily adapted to a sedentary lifestyle. When your body doesn't feel like it's supposed to, of course your brain won't feel like it's supposed to.

I know, I'm trying to make this a regular thing. I started up again in late March but haven't been able to put in the time I need due to my weird work hours. Shit, I've only gone like 6 times in April :/ I'm gonna cancel my current membership and join one of the local 24 hour gyms.

 

[Mercury Fred]

So easy for you to say. There really isn't any point to life at all and no one can say otherwise.

No, it's really not easy for me to say. I struggle with depression myself. But I have followed some of the advice here and it's helped. I understand that everyone is different, but you seem stubbornly especially committed to staying as down as possible.

 

[Trigunner]

you seem stubbornly especially committed to staying as down as possible.

For me at least, it's easier to stay miserable; even if you hate it, it's something you can be comfortable with. I know if I really wanted to change and be at least a little content with myself, I could do it; since it's happened before, but after failing so much at various aspects of my life; I'm just too lazy and don't have the energy to put in the effort to try again.

 

[Bl4ckSunsh1n3]

How many of you guys drink alcohol?

I never have, I told myself I never would. I just didn't see a point for it.

However I've I'm tired of being sad and nobody giving a fuck. I've heard some people say they drink when they are sad and that it "makes the sadness go away". Is this true? Don't give me any "try it and find out" junk, just tell me your experiences. I'm 21 in case you were wondering.

Don't do this. Seek professional help.

 

[Mercury Fred]

For me at least, it's easier to stay miserable; even if you hate it, it's something you can be comfortable with. I know if I really wanted to change and be at least a little content with myself, I could do it; since it's happened before, but after failing so much at various aspects of my life; I'm just too lazy and don't have the energy to put in the effort to try again.

Well yeah. I understand completely. Fighting depression takes effort and energy. And I know that it's sort of paradoxical that depression saps your energy yet requires it to battle. neojubei constantly posts about his misery, his desire for a lobotomy or death. Many folks here have reached out, suggested a whole huge swath of options yet he seems to remain obstinately committed to his depression and committed to making the same sort of posts about it ad nauseum. I feel like this thread should be supportive of people who are depressed but I don't think we do anyone any favors by coddling them here.

 

[Trigunner]

neojubei constantly posts about his misery, his desire for a lobotomy or death. Many folks here have reached out, suggested a whole huge swath of options yet he seems to remain obstinately committed to his depression and committed to making the same sort of posts about it ad nauseum. I feel like this thread should be supportive of people who are depressed but I don't think we do anyone any favors by coddling them here.

I don't follow this thread regularly, so perhaps I shouldn't comment, but maybe he doesn't want help. I feel like him, and could be going on and on about how much I hate my life and trying to find a painless way to get out of it, but what good does that do anyone? Nothing can really be accomplished unless you want to and are committed to making changes; other people can't do it for you, even if you're placed in a hospital. I have so many tools available to try to get better; but I decide not to; that's my choice and I'm not going to bother people with my problems if I don't even want their help. That's wasting their time.

 

[demon]

Can chronic depression itself actually make you more physically tired? I'm always tired as hell, and I don't know if it's because I'm depressed, or if I have sleeping problems caused by depression, or mayhe I'm depressed partially because I'm always tired and it makes me feel like an old over-the-hill fuck. Ugh. I need to be getting to bed earlier and taking ambien or something. Just the fact that I feel like hell after a few nights of 6 hours of sleep these days depresses the shit out of me. I'll need to practically start over at life at some point and I just don't feel like I have the energy in me to do it.

 

[Sadsic]

Can chronic depression itself actually make you more physically tired? I'm always tired as hell, and I don't know if it's because I'm depressed, or if I have sleeping problems caused by depression, or mayhe I'm depressed partially because I'm always tired and it makes me feel like an old over-the-hill fuck. Ugh. I need to be getting to bed earlier and taking ambien or something. Just the fact that I feel like hell after a few nights of 6 hours of sleep these days depresses the shit out of me. I'll need to practically start over at life at some point and I just don't feel like I have the energy in me to do it.

yep

when im depressed (now) i can only stay awake like 12 hours tops

 

[Uchip]

Can chronic depression itself actually make you more physically tired? I'm always tired as hell, and I don't know if it's because I'm depressed, or if I have sleeping problems caused by depression, or mayhe I'm depressed partially because I'm always tired and it makes me feel like an old over-the-hill fuck. Ugh. I need to be getting to bed earlier and taking ambien or something. Just the fact that I feel like hell after a few nights of 6 hours of sleep these days depresses the shit out of me. I'll need to practically start over at life at some point and I just don't feel like I have the energy in me to do it.

well, you should probably get a blood test done to make sure you're not lacking in anything

 

[TheyTookOurJobs]

I think this extended unemployment has made me depressed. I sleep all the time when I get the chance, (Mostly out of boredom), I have no appetite anymore, and sometimes I don't enjoy things like I used to.

 

[Trigunner]

I think this extended unemployment has made me depressed. I sleep all the time when I get the chance, (Mostly out of boredom), I have no appetite anymore, and sometimes I don't enjoy things like I used to.

Yeah, it can do that. I haven't worked in around two years. Have to force myself to eat enough. I sleep during the day, do nothing engaging at night; the days have never gone by so quickly in all my life. Sleep isn't enjoyable like it used to be, but I'm tired all the time, and I hate just lying in bed. Best to break out of whatever bad habits you've picked up before it becomes too difficult to go back to how you should/used to be. Go out everyday for a walk, or workout; just little things that can make you feel like you're doing at least a little something productive.

 

[Piecake]

Can chronic depression itself actually make you more physically tired? I'm always tired as hell, and I don't know if it's because I'm depressed, or if I have sleeping problems caused by depression, or mayhe I'm depressed partially because I'm always tired and it makes me feel like an old over-the-hill fuck. Ugh. I need to be getting to bed earlier and taking ambien or something. Just the fact that I feel like hell after a few nights of 6 hours of sleep these days depresses the shit out of me. I'll need to practically start over at life at some point and I just don't feel like I have the energy in me to do it.

That simply might be your diet. I recently switched to a no grain (well, lot lot less) no sugar diet, and now get my energy from fat instead of carbs. I definitely notice that I have more energy because of it, and its CONSTANT. It isnt some bullshit, up down yo-yo energy cycle like if you are getting most of your energy from carbs and sugar. I also feel more rested in the morning and can get away with less sleep if i really need to (though i try not to since sleep is good)

 

[Sadsic]

my mom keeps texting me and i cant handle fucking talking to my mom

its emotionally crippling to me

 

[Yasae]

Can chronic depression itself actually make you more physically tired? I'm always tired as hell, and I don't know if it's because I'm depressed, or if I have sleeping problems caused by depression, or mayhe I'm depressed partially because I'm always tired and it makes me feel like an old over-the-hill fuck. Ugh. I need to be getting to bed earlier and taking ambien or something. Just the fact that I feel like hell after a few nights of 6 hours of sleep these days depresses the shit out of me. I'll need to practically start over at life at some point and I just don't feel like I have the energy in me to do it.

Yep.

I remember the reason I slept so much: because being awake was that much worse. The only respite came from sleep. Maybe that's part of what causes the attachment to death.

my mom keeps texting me and i cant handle fucking talking to my mom

its emotionally crippling to me

Ignore, ignore, ignore. Frankly I'd burn that bridge at this point. We all got a set of matches.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

my mom keeps texting me and i cant handle fucking talking to my mom

its emotionally crippling to me

Block her number.