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I don't feel like I have anyone I can really confide with in real life, and that's been a hard thing to deal with. I had to move for work and all my "friends" are just co-workers I'll occasionally hang out with and little more. I wouldn't want to tell my family about how miserable/lonely I am either, I feel trapped.
 
Have any of you guys ever had your depression cause physical symptoms like muscle weakness or even muscle pain, or dizziness or anything like that?
 
Trent Strong said:
Have any of you guys ever had your depression cause physical symptoms like muscle weakness or even muscle pain, or dizziness or anything like that?
I've had anxiety attacks so bad that I had to vomit and couldn't stop shaking. Terrible expierence.
 
Trent Strong said:
Have any of you guys ever had your depression cause physical symptoms like muscle weakness or even muscle pain, or dizziness or anything like that?

I got a lot of muscle aches and headaches.
 
Seeing a doctor tomorrow, finally. I´m curious what he´ll tell me. My biggest fear is he´ll tell me something like "nothing wrong with you, just stop being lazy. Now get los" :/ Oh well.
 
Borgnine said:
I got a lot of muscle aches and headaches.

Veezy said:
I've had anxiety attacks so bad that I had to vomit and couldn't stop shaking. Terrible expierence.

Sounds pretty bad. I'm starting to think some of the physical symptoms I've been having lately are due to anxiety and depression.
 
I find myself questioning my need for treatment lately since I've been on minimal meds and nothing else and still functioning. ECT seems like overkill, but waiting until the sh*t hits the fan, so to speak, to get going on it doesn't seem like the right choice, either. I've been not okay for so long that I figure functional is as good as it gets and expecting more is unrealistic. Then again, I've been previously diagnosed with paranoia, so I guess this could be headed into delusional thinking.

In other news, so much body-hate I just spent a couple hours browsing the entire tag search results for "thinspiration" on We <3 It. I hate that term and it's highly indicative of an eating disorder, but I need something to kick-start my drive to deal with all this hate.
 
SolKane said:
I know what it's like, I'm in a similar situation as you except I'm straight. It's a very difficult to be unemployed and living with family. And I'm so embarrassed it's impossible for me to even meet people (not that there are any people around me who are the same age or have similar interests), so I feel very isolated.

I'd probably be much better if I had friends and or a boyfriend, but I've come to a conclusion from experience that people in Texas are assholes. Every guy is shallow, people are rude and have no manners.

I really wish I could move. :|
 
So I finally went to the doctor and he gave me some pills. He wants me to see a psychiatrist though. What kind of stuff will he ask me?
 
Does anyone have any experience going off an antipsychotic?

I've been on abilify for the past 3 years and some others a year before that and I'm going off of abilify. Today was the first day of not taking it and I'm already starting to not feel real good.

I've read that it takes 2-3 weeks for it to fully get out of your system which kind of freaks me out. Will I feel like shit until it's all the way out of my system?

And what are the dangers of going off of this after being on it for so long? Is going manic/psychotic the worst that could happen?
 
today was one of the most depressing days of my live. how I did not kill myself, I just don't know.
Anyway, I feeling better now... and back to Seroquel. Its just too dangerous to use AD with me, this is the conclusion that I have now. I will deal with the seroquel side effects, but fuck no, I don't want never to feel how I felt today again.
 
Az987 said:
Does anyone have any experience going off an antipsychotic?

I've been on abilify for the past 3 years and some others a year before that and I'm going off of abilify. Today was the first day of not taking it and I'm already starting to not feel real good.

I've read that it takes 2-3 weeks for it to fully get out of your system which kind of freaks me out. Will I feel like shit until it's all the way out of my system?

And what are the dangers of going off of this after being on it for so long? Is going manic/psychotic the worst that could happen?

I'm no medical professional, but I will say depending on what your dose was going off Abilify - or anything else - cold turkey will almost certainly make you miserable for a few to several weeks. It's best to gradually decrease the dose to allow your body to adjust to the change.
 
When ECT first came up as a treatment option my psychiatrist said the fastest way to get it done was to admit myself to that hospital inpatient. I refused, partly because I feel inpatient is a waste of time and money and partly because I didn't feel my situation was severe enough to merit it. Now over a month later I'm still not receiving the treatment because my GP office dropped the ball with my physical paperwork and I have to go physically drop it off with the ECT nurse, which terrifies me because all people terrify me and whatever "yeah, I'm fine" delusions got me through the last couple months have vanished. I'm ready to just give up and go inpatient, but the money is ridiculous, and I'm already like 2/3 of the way to getting ECT outpatient, so that would all be a waste. I'm a wreck and I want to give up and hide from life but I can't because life will still be there when I come out, only worse because I neglected it. fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
I hope ECT works for you. There's a woman in my DBT group who had the treatments done and didn't see any improvement, only memory loss of the last year or so (that's why she's taking the class again). It's usually a last resort when your psych feels they've reached the end of their rope with you and you haven't been responsive to any other option. If they recommend it before you've been tried on everything else (anti-depressants, anti-convulsants, anti-psychotics, mood stabilizers, CBT etc.) they're incompetent.
 
fragilebroken said:
I'm no medical professional, but I will say depending on what your dose was going off Abilify - or anything else - cold turkey will almost certainly make you miserable for a few to several weeks. It's best to gradually decrease the dose to allow your body to adjust to the change.

Oh I didn't mean cold turkey. My doctor told me to me to go down from 10mg to 5 for 2 weeks then 5 to 2.5 for 2 weeks then stop taking it.
 
So I started taking St. John's Wort about 3 weeks ago, 3 capsules daily, and I just wanted to post my impressions.

I really can't believe how well this stuff has worked in a relatively short period of time. I'm much happier in general (especially at work, where I've become more personable and productive), I don't find myself worrying about every little thing anymore, I've had more energy... It's been really great. Is it a placebo effect or does it genuinely work? Probably a bit of both, but I'm really glad to have tried it and I'd recommend it to anyone battling minor depression.

I'm sure it doesn't matter, but this is the brand I'm taking

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2133911

Give it a shot, it's not expensive at all so there's really nothing to lose.
 
I finally begun again treating my bipolar disease with a real doc, and stopped my auto-medication. Anyway, she told me to start taking Lithium CR 450mg and 2 days now I feel really good. But damn, my libido its very high. Like all I can think is pussy and pussy and pussy all the fuckin day. Is this normal? I thought that was the other way around, the libido was supposed to be low.
 
The concept has almost become reality. My first ECT treatment is scheduled for tomorrow. I'm nervous as fuck. My mom was going to drive me, but now my grandmother is having health issues involving surgery and a DNR so me needing a taxi for my mental reboot three times a week for a few weeks makes me feel like a horrid nuisance. Sure, I was borderline suicidal most of this week, but somehow that seems less valid than whatever cardiac whatnot my grandmother is dealing with. I know as well as anyone could that mental illness is no less real than physical issues, but I still feel guilty for needing such intensive treatment when shit's already going down.
 
I feel like crying and giving up right now.

Finally gave the psychotherapist a call that my doctor told me to call, and after three to four times getting a busy signal, then the battery of the phone suddenly being run out of power and getting a working phone again, I got through to her. Told her my name, told her my doctor recommended her to me, then she asked what my problem was and I told her (well, whatever my problem really is, how should I know? :/ ). And then she told me that I would have to wait for like the end of October for getting an appointment since she´s occupied by all her other patients. She then gave me a list of other psychologists I should contact.

Well, here I am, feeling completely hopeless. Everytime I tried to call, my heart beat so fast and I was so nervous I wanted to just die. And now I´m supposed to get into contact with some psychologist on my own. Had to gather all my strength just for that call today... Fuck this life of mine, I just don´t want to be this miserable loser anymore. Anyway, just wanted to get this off my mind, not that anyone cares.
 
Finding help on your own is hard. It took me days of half dialing numbers, and then days of giving up when they didn't have appointments before I found a counselor. And then he freaked me out and I had to find another one. She was good and managed to refer me to a psychiatrist without much effort, who happened to have room in his schedule to see me.

But making those phone calls, especially when you're conflicted about getting help and already in crisis. Man, that's tough. I started the process three days out from a suicide attempt, and the only thing that got me through it was knowing that if I didn't get help I was a dead man. I've told most of my story elsewhere, but I was so dysregulated from taking the wrong drugs that I was rapid cycling between hypomania and just the worst imaginable depression. And I was doing it just weeks after my wife asked for a divorce, alone in my house, seeing her in every room, smelling her everywhere.

It's hard. So hard. I got lucky once I found the right doc and the right meds, but it's still hard. Just normal hard, not batshit crazy hard. Keep plugging away at it. I don't know that it's ever going to be easy for some of us, but sometimes you get lucky. I thought it would never happen for me. I've lived so long with the daily reality of depression that I thought I could never be any better, no matter what I tried. And yet, here I am, with meds that work, not trying to die.
 
I've been zapped five times now. Yesterday I believed it was starting to help, but today has been decidedly less pleasant. The first few treatments basically just felt like more trouble than they're worth. After Monday's is the first time I noticed a difference. As far as side effects go I can tell I'm missing little bits of memory, but so far I haven't lost anything major or gotten lost driving or anything. It's a pain in the ass to only be allowed to drive every other day.
 
Fantastic article on depression that deals with it and the recent news of hockey players committing suicide because of it.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=375694
E-mail, texting and instant messaging all have places in our lives. But I believe I have relied too much on them, often replacing personal contact with letters and words and symbols that are like the Buckingham Palace Grenadier Guards - conveying no emotion, revealing no subtlety. They are zombies devoid of anything meaningful outside of the obvious.

How many times have you wondered while reading a text whether someone was serious or joking, sarcastic or straight? Have you ever wondered when you ask someone how they are, whether fine really means fine?

Fine written in text always looks the same, but in person, on the phone, fine can reveal so much more. I am having a tough time forgiving myself for texting Wade Belak seven days before he died and accepting his fine.

Wade was my buddy. That didn't make me unique. Wade was everyone's buddy. Even guys he fought with on the ice liked him. Even guys he scored on liked him, even if that list is pretty short. He was the definition of the big fat jolly guy without the fat. Honestly, I don't know a soul who met Wade who didn't immediately like him. He made friends the way most people pick up germs -- gathering more every time he touched someone.

I knew Wade walked with a limp. I knew it because he spoke to me about it. I have the same limp. It's how I refer to depression that doesn't disable us – even though we feel it every step of our lives.

Wade's limp, however, was worse than I knew. Seven days before he died, we chatted on e-mail. He had heard an interview I did for TSN Radio about my own depression and he had written, It was good.

I wrote back jokingly, Did you feel sorry for me, that's what I was looking for.

He responded, I thought you were a big pussy. Ha ha. Who am I to say? I've been on happy pills for 4-5 years now.

I wrote back, And how are you?

And Wade wrote back, Fine.

Fine. Ugh.

Fine. It's four letters, one word. One simple word. No means no we're told, but fine doesn't always mean fine. He wasn't fine. Seven days later he was gone.

I'm looking at my hands. I don't see any blood, but it's there. Luminol won't show it, but my conscience does.

Out, damned spot; Out I say. It's not that easy.

A Common Bond

Wade came into my life eight years ago when he first appeared on Off the Record. He and I together looked like a photo from World War II. Wade, with his huge size, chiseled features, pale skin and blond hair. And me - eight inches shorter, a million shades darker and with a large, slightly hooked nose. Well, you get the picture.

Despite our many differences, we bonded right away, a friendship based on a mutual ability to make the other laugh. Men show contempt with insults and affection with harsher insults. Wade and I had a no limit, no safe area, no boundaries and never hurt feelings. I loved him for that. And I know he felt the same way.

I'm not sure why Wade confided in me about his depression. I assume it was because I have spoken publicly about mine. Or perhaps, in the code of us depression sufferers, I was a veteran depressive and he was a rookie.

Whatever the reason or reasons, I felt blessed that he shared with me. Sharing something personal with another person is one of the greatest compliments you can give them. It says, I trust you and I feel safe with you. It also says, I know you won't judge me. Can you truly call someone a friend if you're afraid they may see you as weak?

This all made me like Wade so much more. I think we end up liking people because of their good traits. Sometimes we end up loving them because of their flaws.

I felt that I knew Wade in a different way than almost anyone else. I knew that his perma-smile was at least partially manufactured. I knew that his constant cheeriness was at least partially faked. It felt good to know this because I too, have done the same things. In that way Wade was the guy I related to perhaps better than anyone in my life. We were both good at fooling people. Like most depression sufferers we are counterfeiters in human emotion. We create fake happiness and for that reason sometimes people can't spot what's truly happening inside.

Obviously.

Tragically.

When I close my eyes and think of Wade the only memories I have are of him smiling. I can't remember anything else. Even knowing that he wasn't always smiling inwardly, doesn't change how I see him.

I see him now smiling in my hallway with his daughter Andie on his shoulders. Together they seemed to be 15 feet tall. Wade was one of those dads who couldn't put his kids down. He was always embracing them as if telling them he loved them wasn't enough.

I see him smiling and crying having eaten Armageddon chicken wings. I think I called him a big suck.

I see him smiling after my son had whipped him in NHL ‘11 (Not even Wade picked Wade).

I see his huge smile after we won a summer roller hockey championship with him in goal. He took it incredibly seriously. Who takes a pre-game nap for roller hockey?

And I see him smiling -- the last time I saw him at our kitchen table eating more pancakes than all of us combined.

When Wade and I were texting on August 24th, he inquired about the documentary I am working on, which is about celebrities with depression. He said, Are you gonna put me on?

I asked, Would you consider sharing your illness with the public. His exact words were, I don't think I would have a problem going public with it.

He added, I don't even think my parents really know.

Wade had no idea just how public he would go with his depression.

Trying to Understand

We don't know what happened to Wade a week later that saw his flame go from brilliant to extinguished in just a few hours, but we know why people usually take their own lives. People kill themselves when the fear of living another moment outweighs the fear of dying at that moment. With Wade, I believe he was struck by a tsunami of depression. In an instant he somehow went from calm to calamitous. Love for family and for life no longer made sense. Instantly one and one was no longer two.

I know what you've wondered. And don't feel bad, we've all asked the question. You're thinking it right now. Well, I will ask it for you; how does any parent choose to leave his kids? How does a guy share with me the joy of hearing his five-year old at violin lessons, and then eight days later plug his ears forever?

I don't know the answer, but I do know this; I pray that you and I won't ever figure it out. Some things you don't want to know. And some things you can't ever judge.

You don't think you know what Sept. 11 felt like on American Airlines flight 175 as it roared towards the World Trade Center, do you? So can you really say what you would have done?

You don't know what it was like to be marched to your death in Auschwitz, so can you really say what you would have done?

And you don't know what my buddy Wade Belak was thinking when it made sense to him to leave all that he loved. So can you really say what you would have done?

I sure as hell don't know, but I know this; when you're severely depressed, logic can become fallacy and fallacy can become reality.


If you know me, you know that I am a confident person. I can hear you thinking, No, he's arrogant. Fine, think what you want, but when I've been depressed that confidence is replaced by insecurity. When I've been depressed, ‘me' no longer exists. I am replaced by my own Slim Shady, and he's a guy I don't know or particularly like. He hosted 60 shows in 2008. He sucked.

So if as you read this, you're thinking, I have no idea what any of that feels like, then you're blessed. Have you ever thought, man, am I lucky not to be mentally ill? Likely not, because we seldom celebrate our normality. I'm the same. I don't celebrate having two arms and two legs but an amputee would suggest I should.

But in your mental health arrogance do not ever think for a second you can understand why Wade made the choice he did. I can't understand it, but I know this; Wade loved life as much as anyone I have ever met. His love for his wife Jen and their girls, Andie and Alex, was every bit as strong as anything any of us have ever felt. So, if depression could make him give that up - how bad must it be? And would you or I be any different?

The damn tsunami washed away all the joy and replaced it with something else. The devoted father and husband and friend who had everything to live for drowned in a sea of sadness.

Vincent Van Gogh, the genius Dutch painter whose sophisticated works changed art forever, had these simple last words explaining why he took his own life; the sadness will last forever. In general, Wade didn't believe that. But somehow, for some reason, for one moment he did.

At that horrible moment Wade, we can assume, had two rival instincts battling inside him. On one side was the survival instinct. On the other was the instinct to end his suffering. We've all felt the first; many fewer have felt the second. In Wade's case its clear which side won. Think of it this way. Suicide is what happens when the angel of death and the angel of mercy start working together.

Has Wade gone to a better place? Who knows? You may believe in the afterlife, but you don't know it exists. No one knows. But my guess is that Wade wasn't betting on heading to a better place. He just knew at that one moment there is no worse place than where he was.

Depression is not a Demon

I don't expect you to understand why Wade made the choice he made. It's tough for me to understand. But I do expect you to accept the seriousness of his disease. If you were saddened by Wade's death then here's what you owe him; you owe him the belief in his pain.

We can't see depression. We cant biopsy it. Blood tests don't show it. Neither do x-rays. Believing in depression takes faith, and surveys show that more than half of us are depressive atheists still believing somehow that depression is not a disease, but a sign of weakness. Wade wasn't weak. Neither was Churchill or Lincoln or Hemingway or your cousin or your neighbor or your son.

Depression is a disease. It's not an issue or a demon, although it may act like one. And if you want to honor Wade's memory, do it this way; never ever tell someone to snap out of it. And never ask anyone, what do you have to be depressed about? Start accepting depression as a serious and sometimes fatal illness.


Waiting for the R

My last message still sits on his smart phone and mine. After hearing a crazy rumor that my boy Wade had died, I called his cell immediately, assuming I would hear his voice and I would greet him with, So I guess this means you're not dead!

But I got no answer. My heart fell as I heard his voice mail, This is Wade -- leave a message. I didn't. What would I say? Please don't be dead? Please call me and I will come there and help you through anything.

One more hope - I texted him these words and waited.

Are you OK?

The D appeared right away. My heart began to race waiting for the R. If you don't speak the language of messenger, the D appears when the message is delivered. The R appears when the person has read it or seen it. Most of us use that to decide whether we are being ignored. But, on this day the stakes were far different. I knew that D meant death and R meant life.

Please change. Please change, I prayed. I waited. And I'm still waiting in disbelief. It never changed. The D sits there for eternity, ironically speaking volumes to me. Ironic because I began by saying text usually fails to communicate true meaning. In this case it says everything I feel.

The D sits there, a solitary symbol to me of one of the great tragedies I have felt.

D for depression.

D for the death it brought.

And D for Dear Wade, I hope now you really are fine.

Out damn spot, out I say. Not yet I fear. Maybe not ever.

Your Turn
 
I don't understand why, but I'm just completely unable to make friends at college. I've joined clubs that have people with similar interests, but that just isn't doing it.

My lack of friends is really starting to take its toll on my psyche. Suicidal thoughts are starting to creep into my head. I have no plans on acting on them though.
 
Jea Song said:
Iv taken those tests online about depression, and bi polar disorders, and its clear I may have something of that nature

self diagnosis is one of the WORST things you can do; seek qualified and professional help, seriously.
 
Obsessed said:
I don't understand why, but I'm just completely unable to make friends at college. I've joined clubs that have people with similar interests, but that just isn't doing it.

My lack of friends is really starting to take its toll on my psyche. Suicidal thoughts are starting to creep into my head. I have no plans on acting on them though.

Is this your first semester? Do you commute or live on campus? I didn't really make many friends until I got into some of my late major courses.
 
Obsessed said:
1st semester. On campus.

Thing is, you're probably in a bunch of gen-ed courses with other people who probably have no friends either and are just trying to get by their first semester. Once you settle down in a major and start seeing the same people in different classes I think you will make some friends. Also, a few of my gen-ed courses were like 300+ people as opposed to 30 or less in more specific courses. Definitely harder to make friends in class when there are shit tons of people.

What about your roommate?

I could be totally off-base here though because I'm pretty much a loner and my *really* good friends at school came from meeting them at our co-op job and then seeing them at university in subsequent semesters. (Have a 1 semester work --> 1 class --> 1 work cyclic schedule.) I would honestly just keep at it with the clubs and stuff.
 
Kalnos said:
Thing is, you're probably in a bunch of gen-ed courses with other people who probably have no friends either and are just trying to get by their first semester. Once you settle down in a major and start seeing the same people in different classes I think you will make some friends. Also, a few of my gen-ed courses were like 300+ people as opposed to 30 or less in more specific courses. Definitely harder to make friends in class when there are shit tons of people.

What about your roommate?

I could be totally off-base here though because I'm pretty much a loner and my *really* good friends at school came from meeting them at our co-op job and then seeing them at university in subsequent semesters. (Have a 1 semester work --> 1 class --> 1 work cyclic schedule.) I would honestly just keep at it with the clubs and stuff.

I see other people hanging out. They seem to have become friends just fine. Though I think the main problem is I'm too afraid to initiate conversations. It just feels awkward doing so. I think I need to get over that and just go for it. If people find me annoying they will most likely be too polite to tell me, at least giving me the illusion of friendship. But best case scenario, I make friends.

My roommate is from China. We get along as far as roommates, but we're not really friends. Perhaps language barrier/cultural differences are getting in the way.
 
Obsessed said:
I see other people hanging out. They seem to have become friends just fine. Though I think the main problem is I'm too afraid to initiate conversations. It just feels awkward doing so. I think I need to get over that and just go for it. If people find me annoying they will most likely be too polite to tell me, at least giving me the illusion of friendship. But best case scenario, I make friends.

I would try going for it in one of your clubs, that's probably your best bet. Some people head into college with their friends too and just hang out with their 'group'. Sucks, but what can you do?
 
Obsessed said:
I see other people hanging out. They seem to have become friends just fine. Though I think the main problem is I'm too afraid to initiate conversations. It just feels awkward doing so. I think I need to get over that and just go for it. If people find me annoying they will most likely be too polite to tell me, at least giving me the illusion of friendship. But best case scenario, I make friends.

My roommate is from China. We get along as far as roommates, but we're not really friends. Perhaps language barrier/cultural differences are getting in the way.
I don't think many people will find you annoying. There's a charisma present.

And didn't I initiate a couple conversations with you already? You're not a bad guy to talk to at all. Really.
 
I don't know if I'm asking this in the right place, but why not.

I've noticed that I find it difficult to laugh sometimes. I might think something is really funny, but I just don't laugh. Could this be attributed to a depression? Or am I just a cynical son of a bitch?

I hate it when all my friends are laughing, but I'm just sitting there faking a laugh or not laughing at all even though it's a funny situation.
 
I'm kind of confused as to what antidepressants are supposed to do. Are they supposed to invoke thoughts of happiness or are they supposed to numb the bad feelings associated with depression? Either way, I'm doubtful that they'll work for me. I really do think that the side effects, in a lot of cases, outweigh what little relief one gets from taking the pills.
 
Obsessed said:
I don't understand why, but I'm just completely unable to make friends at college. I've joined clubs that have people with similar interests, but that just isn't doing it.
Do your clubs have a lot of members or are they more intimate?

I joined the committee that chooses what films are shown at our campus, and it's only about 15 people. I've had a blast, and it has been really easy becoming friend with them and I'm not typically good at that.
If you get into a more intimate group and go through the whole "hi my name is..." blah blah blah, it actually helps a lot. And if people want to get something to eat or hang out afterwards, go with them.
I see you are saying you have trouble making conversation, and I have that problem too. Join a club where you can talk about the subject of the club with people and that will help, I think. In my example, I know a good amount of knowledge about film so I was able to talk to them about movies and then I learned a lot about them and went from there.

A good way to start a conversation is, after introductions, asking what their major is and then go from there. That's my approach usually.

I'm not the best at this stuff either, so I'm not sure how helpful my advice is, but stick with it, and I think it will work itself out.
 
Anyone I can PM to talk to about my depression? I started typing it up and realized it was an exceptionally long post and well, the post I was typing up didn't really have a specific issue. It was more of a rant/life overview.

Edit: Thanks guys.
 
MooMoo said:
Anyone I can PM to talk to about my depression? I started typing it up and realized it was an exceptionally long post and well, the post I was typing up didn't really have a specific issue. It was more of a rant/life overview.
You can PM me bro. We are on the same boat...

ThisWreckage said:
I'm kind of confused as to what antidepressants are supposed to do. Are they supposed to invoke thoughts of happiness or are they supposed to numb the bad feelings associated with depression? Either way, I'm doubtful that they'll work for me. I really do think that the side effects, in a lot of cases, outweigh what little relief one gets from taking the pills.
With, I have no sexual desire, but I have a will to live.
Without, I would have a sexual desire, and a suicidal mind.
Guess that ask it.
 
eravulgaris said:
I don't know if I'm asking this in the right place, but why not.

I've noticed that I find it difficult to laugh sometimes. I might think something is really funny, but I just don't laugh. Could this be attributed to a depression? Or am I just a cynical son of a bitch?

I hate it when all my friends are laughing, but I'm just sitting there faking a laugh or not laughing at all even though it's a funny situation.

You are just honest.
 
MooMoo said:
Anyone I can PM to talk to about my depression? I started typing it up and realized it was an exceptionally long post and well, the post I was typing up didn't really have a specific issue. It was more of a rant/life overview.

You can PM any time. Got 8 years of chronic depression experience. Ups and downs. Venting helps.
 
I've heard that a constant feeling of tiredness (even though you have enough sleep) is a symptom of clinical depression

Is this true?

It's not yawning or anything but just a loss of willpower to do anything. Just feeling like crap almost everyday - the same type of crap you feel when you're tired
 
Ferga said:
I've heard that a constant feeling of tiredness (even though you have enough sleep) is a symptom of clinical depression

Is this true?

It's not yawning or anything but just a loss of willpower to do anything. Just feeling like crap almost everyday - the same type of crap you feel when you're tired

Pretty much yeah. siLoss of willpower and dere to do anything is very common when depressed.

Still doing things while you suffer from depression is hard, but it is also a way to get out of one.
 
GAF, someone in my family was diagnosed burnout and depression and she'll go to a clinic starting next month for at least 6 weeks.

She's got the support of the whole family but we're pretty much struggling on how to help her without making things worse. She had a trauma in her teens she obviously couldn't get over albeit therapy (physical assault) and she can't stand all the pressure and let downs at work any longer.

What makes things worse for myself is that I'm pretty much at the lowest point of my life right now. And although I have great friends who try to get me over this phase I feel that no one can help me but I.
That pretty much leaves me wondering how I can help her. Let the psychatrists and meds do their work? Try to talk to her? Do things with her and tell stupid jokes? Just listen what she has to say?

What kind of support do you want from your family? Would be great if you had some advice :/
 
Hi! This is a venting post so feel free to read and move on or not read at all.

So, I've moved to University about 60 minutes away from my home town. I live in halls with about 200 other students. My corridor has 3 other people living in them. A guy and 2 girls. When I first moved in, we all said hi and that but now, I hardly talk to them and when I do it's really awkward. It's come to the point where I'm actually starving myself because I refuse to go into the kitchen (we share one) for fear of either running into them, or running into them and their friends.

I've met 1 guy who I go out with but we're not really close friends and he has other friends besides me whereas I have no other friends besides him. Before I moved here, I was genuinely exited to move away from home (was depressed then, too) and start fresh. Now, I want nothing more than to go back there.

I live on the ground floor so I always have people outside my window being loud at all hours of the night so sleeping is a very rare thing. It's also come to the point where I can't enjoy my favourite TV shows because everytime someone's outside my window or outside my door, I concentrate on that.

I've tried to kill myself 3 times in the past but other than being admitted to hospital at those times, I've never gone to see a doctor. My Uni does have a councilling office and I've sent them an E-mail (They do E-mail counselling and I don't really want to talk face-to-face) so I'm hoping they can help.

I can't pull out from Uni since I have a very high fear of disappointing my family so I'm stuck here for 3 years. I've met some people on my course but other than a quick conversation, I've never really hung out with them.

So, I'm at a loss at what to do.
 
BackwardsSuggestions said:
My Uni does have a councilling office and I've sent them an E-mail (They do E-mail counselling and I don't really want to talk face-to-face) so I'm hoping they can help.

Why don't you want to talk face-to-face? It's your decision, but I can't see how e-mail counselling could be anywhere near as useful as face-to-face. If it's free, you should take advantage of the latter.
 
BackwardsSuggestions said:
Hi! This is a venting post so feel free to read and move on or not read at all.

So, I've moved to University about 60 minutes away from my home town. I live in halls with about 200 other students. My corridor has 3 other people living in them. A guy and 2 girls. When I first moved in, we all said hi and that but now, I hardly talk to them and when I do it's really awkward. It's come to the point where I'm actually starving myself because I refuse to go into the kitchen (we share one) for fear of either running into them, or running into them and their friends.

I've met 1 guy who I go out with but we're not really close friends and he has other friends besides me whereas I have no other friends besides him. Before I moved here, I was genuinely exited to move away from home (was depressed then, too) and start fresh. Now, I want nothing more than to go back there.

I live on the ground floor so I always have people outside my window being loud at all hours of the night so sleeping is a very rare thing. It's also come to the point where I can't enjoy my favourite TV shows because everytime someone's outside my window or outside my door, I concentrate on that.

I've tried to kill myself 3 times in the past but other than being admitted to hospital at those times, I've never gone to see a doctor. My Uni does have a councilling office and I've sent them an E-mail (They do E-mail counselling and I don't really want to talk face-to-face) so I'm hoping they can help.

I can't pull out from Uni since I have a very high fear of disappointing my family so I'm stuck here for 3 years. I've met some people on my course but other than a quick conversation, I've never really hung out with them.

So, I'm at a loss at what to do.

First thing I would consider is that you are in a transient period in your life at the moment, as you say you have only JUST moved to university. I myself am a university student (in my final year) and I can say that most "friendships" forged as a fresher in first year, especially at the beginning of the year rarely last that long. Many people will be in a similar situation as yourself but they will be dealing with it in a different way. People have different defence mechanisms to deal with their insecurities which initially in social environments may not reflect the true person they are.

You mention your previous history and that your university has a counselling service. Obviously I am only going by your single post but I would say do not dwell on who you HAVE been too much, concentrate on who you would like to be, your aspirations and goals in life. Having a different aspect on your life moving forward may be beneficial, however if you do feel the need to talk to someone your university will no doubt have you covered. At my university we have a service known as "Nightline", which is anonymous 1-on-1 calling with another anonymous student who you can call over the phone, perhaps see if your university provides a similar service.

Being a first year at university involves dealing with a learning curve of tolerance for others, no matter how loutish their behaviour may be, but do not change your routine to avoid people, this only makes thngs worse in my opinion, try going into the kitchen and see if you can start a conversation, even if it's as simple as asking how their day went - it can get the ball rolling. You will no doubt begin to forge friendships outside of your living block, be it through your course or society activities (which you may consider to join).

In short, you are not alone in starting university. Others will feel the same. Let the dust settle and give it another month of so.

Additionally, a pair of headphones for watching TV shows may help. :)
 
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