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[NinjaFridge]

I had some of my meds dropped a few weeks ago and it's starting to look like it wasn't such a great idea. Feeling a bit down at the minute, anxiety seems to have risen and feel just uncomfortable all the time.

 

[P44]

God I feel like my minds being swallowed by this thing at times.

 

[SpartanForce]

I feel great. Finally.

 

[Prax]

Sometimes this thread moves too fast for me and I am conflicted with the overwhelming urge to respond to posts but also a freezing guilt that I cannot respond to every post because it would take too much time! URGH!
Balance! I must find it!

Also, Wilsongt, since you mentioned it, I didn't think you disappeared or worried much because I saw you posting in the Fire Emblem thread.. >__>

And scar tissue, hope your self-ban helps you get some focus so you can sort things out and stuff! Report back to us whenever you come back and let us know what's up! Also try not to begrudge people for their fortunes or misfortunes. It doesn't help you become the person you want to be. I know withholding judgment is hard, but practice patience in regards to that.

And everyone else I can't respond to.. I have read your posts regardless, so keep strong and take care of yourselves.

I am WAS in the chat, and wanted to post this SEVERAL hours ago to invite you in for randomness and stuff, but neogaf was down. Maybe I'll catch you guys next time though! xD

 

[Smiley90]

Sometimes this thread moves too fast for me and I am conflicted with the overwhelming urge to respond to posts but also a freezing guilt that I cannot respond to every post because it would take too much time! URGH!
Balance! I must find it!

Also, Wilsongt, since you mentioned it, I didn't think you disappeared or worried much because I saw you posting in the Fire Emblem thread.. >__>

And scar tissue, hope your self-ban helps you get some focus so you can sort things out and stuff! Report back to us whenever you come back and let us know what's up! Also try not to begrudge people for their fortunes or misfortunes. It doesn't help you become the person you want to be. I know withholding judgment is hard, but practice patience in regards to that.

And everyone else I can't respond to.. I have read your posts regardless, so keep strong and take care of yourselves.

I am WAS in the chat, and wanted to post this SEVERAL hours ago to invite you in for randomness and stuff, but neogaf was down. Maybe I'll catch you guys next time though! xD

I was at the login screen but forgot the name of the channel&password

 

[Prax]

I was at the login screen but forgot the name of the channel&password

Channel and password together is: #depression_gaf depressionsucks


For future reference:
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ADDRESS:
http://chat.mibbit.com

1. CONNECT: leave the server dropdown on mibbit

2. NICK: choose whatever nickname you want
(although if you want to reserve a nickname for yourself only, there are other steps you can take. I used this guide because it was easiest, even though we're not really in the mozilla servers: https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC
If you want to change your nickname at any time, type "/nick NAMEYOUWANT" )

3. CHANNEL: "#depression_gaf depressionsucks"
(type in all the stuff in the quotation marks. #depression_gaf is the channel, and the depressionsucks part is the password to enter into the room)

4. Press the "CONNECT" button~!
(tabs on the top will display the different channels or private chats you are in)

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

but you already said that the evaluation of your work was mainly based on someone's individual interpretation, and honestly: you don't have to give a damn about that. I know it's hard to accept but if you think about it it really makes sense. so don't beat yourself up about it, especially if a degree is not that important for your intended career

Again, it is the knowledge that I never got it that eats away at me. If anything I needed it as a confidence boost, but that has not worked out... The anger I feel towards those people for their academic bullshit is considerable, but I have no outlet for those feelings so they'll likely consume for a long time.

 

[neojubei]

Start of the 3 day weekend and already i am depressed. I find myself comparing myself to others online.

 

[zoukka]

Exactly, it's like you can do a lot of stuff but you won't push it like someone dedicated to only that or to a few hobbies.
I listen to music but do not know barely enough compared to people going to concert every weeks or listening to everything that is coming out. Same goes for movies, games or whatever.
I went to gym a few month ago and didn't really mingle because people were way too much into it for me, talking about advanced planning, ridiculous diets and all that kind of stuff, while I was there because I just wanted to get fit, not become fucking rambo.
I like games, but not enough to do that every weekend with people who do, because I need to do different things to not get bored.

I do not feel I belong to any social category either, belong to any fashion/contemporary culture, because instead of giving myself entirely to one of them I'm the kind of guy that will pick from everywhere.
I am totally a third culture kid, thanks to the way I spent my childhood and was raised. And even though it was awesome, I now feel kind of left out.

On another note, people fully dedicated to a lifestyle, a hobby or whatever (which is basically everyone) make me angry and annoy me, because I feel like outside or their passion there is absolutely nothing to talk about with them.
It goes from music addict to drugs/smoking addicts to party/drinking addicts, sports fan or whatever you can think of.
So I'm kinda angry against the whole world right now, and I feel tense, mentally and physically.
And it's bad because as I said I'm starting to hate my friends because they are like a broken disc to me.
Same with people from my school.

Things always look simpler on the outside. You can't just visit gym once and tell what each people in there is doing with their lives. Someone looking at you might have the same thought process. This guy reads a lot of manga and discusses about it online, I hope I could be so passionate about comics.

People who fully dedicate themselves a single hoppy are rare. Some of my friends who seem very dedicated on music or sports, actually have a lot of other interests as well. You just need to dig deeper.

Start of the 3 day weekend and already i am depressed. I find myself comparing myself to others online.

Heh I remember visiting art forums as younger and gotten super depressed on the talent there. But it's pointless. Those people worked hard for their skill and have all the same obstacles we humans face. You can always find someone who is "doing better". Better not get obsessed about it.

 

[Windam]

Day 2 of my 4 day weekend and I have no motivation and a shit ton of work to get through. I'm not even feeling bad per se, just more lost and confused; not sure if I actually cried last night or it was a dream.

 

[Karried]

Ooh, yeah. Friendship drama can be very stressful, and that can lead to feelings of estrangement and conflict of whether to put up with stuff or alienate yourself. I don't know how bad it's gotten for you, but have you ever tried speaking up to them about it? Even a "hey, is it really cool we're talking about so-an-so like this? >_>" or "guys, can we be doing something other than just drinking right now? It's boring." Haha.. I understand if you don't want to rock the boat though.

You can always try to join hobbyist/common interest groups and try to connect with new people there. For example: http://www.meetup.com/ (one of my friends goes to these things in Toronto, anyway. It's been fun for her--though she has also met a few.. "interesting characters" lol ymmv).

Thanks, I'll take a look there. Is it legit? Has anyone tried this? It'd be cool to meet some girls with my common interests too, the ones I know don't share that many interests as I do, and meet some nice friends too.

 

[EdmondD]

I feel great. Finally.

Glad you're feeling good man.

I am WAS in the chat, and wanted to post this SEVERAL hours ago to invite you in for randomness and stuff, but neogaf was down. Maybe I'll catch you guys next time though! xD

Funny you should mention this. I was going to join the chat last night wondering if anyone would be there. I figured it would be empty so I didn't join. I should have.

Day 2 of my 4 day weekend and I have no motivation and a shit ton of work to get through. I'm not even feeling bad per se, just more lost and confused; not sure if I actually cried last night or it was a dream.

Get some work done, it will be a relief. If the work keeps piling up it's going to become more stressful.

Thanks, I'll take a look there. Is it legit? Has anyone tried this? It'd be cool to meet some girls with my common interests too, the ones I know don't share that many interests as I do, and meet some nice friends too.

I have been interested in meetup.com myself. I even found some depression support groups in my area but I have not been to any meet ups yet. Seems legit though.

 

[Jimothy]

Went to a group therapy thing last night, and hung out with some of the people after the meeting. This was literally the first time I've socialized with more than just small talk in about a year, and it was completely exhausting. It was a good kind of exhaustion, though. I'm really glad I found this group, and I'm hopefully going to attend meetings twice a week.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Just out of curiosity, for some depress people, would you mind telling me your cholesterol intake?

 

[Bagels]

Just out of curiosity, for some depress people, would you mind telling me your cholesterol intake?

Jeez. No clue. I'm going to guess it's not great.

On a quasi-related note, I've really had good luck taking fish oil. I'm skeptical of anything a drug company hasn't paid me to love, but it seems to be keeping me on an even keel. I'm at 4 or 5 weeks now.

 

[BadTaste]

Went to a group therapy thing last night, and hung out with some of the people after the meeting. This was literally the first time I've socialized with more than just small talk in about a year, and it was completely exhausting. It was a good kind of exhaustion, though. I'm really glad I found this group, and I'm hopefully going to attend meetings twice a week.

Good way to meet people, nice job hanging out with them after

 

[Piano]

Just out of curiosity, for some depress people, would you mind telling me your cholesterol intake?

Used to be quite low. Moving my diet away from carbs and towards protein and fat over the last year has correlated heavily with my improving mental health.

Jeez. No clue. I'm going to guess it's not great.

On a quasi-related note, I've really had good luck taking fish oil. I'm skeptical of anything a drug company hasn't paid me to love, but it seems to be keeping me on an even keel. I'm at 4 or 5 weeks now.

On the flip side, fish oil hit me with lots of anxiety and insomnia. Definitely worth a shot - but just goes to show that, as always, your mileage may vary.

ps bagels i luv u

 

[Jimothy]

Good way to meet people, nice job hanging out with them after

I was honestly on the verge of tears when one of the girls there came up to and invited me to go out with the group. Like, tears of happiness. God I'm so pathetic.

 

[Agent Cooper]

This is ruining my life.

I have no confidence.

I shut everyone out.

I'm so done.

What did I do to deserve feeling like this?

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

I basically browsed GAF the entire day.

A normal day for me is pretty much; wake up, breakfast, gaf, dinner, gaf, bed.

Seems even more pathetic when I type it out like that.

 

[forknknife]

This is ruining my life.

I have no confidence.

I shut everyone out.

I'm so done.

What did I do to deserve feeling like this?

Have you already sought medical advise?

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Jeez. No clue. I'm going to guess it's not great.

On a quasi-related note, I've really had good luck taking fish oil. I'm skeptical of anything a drug company hasn't paid me to love, but it seems to be keeping me on an even keel. I'm at 4 or 5 weeks now.

Used to be quite low. Moving my diet away from carbs and towards protein and fat over the last year has correlated heavily with my improving mental health.

Lol sorry for randomly asking but in my biochem class, we were talking about lipids and how there is a link with depression and low level of cholesterol. Since cholesterol helps the permeability of the cell member, a lack of cholesterol could decrease serotonin being able to enter the cell. I do know most depression medication alters the level of serotonin, so perhaps an increase in healthier cholesterol could help some people

I shall continue to drown out my depression with science... :/

 

[paile]

I don't think I'll make it either. I'm transgendered so my situation is quite different. I'll continue to try for a while yet but optimism is becoming scarce. I just can't integrate into this world. I never have and I don't think I ever will. There's ups and downs but the trend line is unmistakably heading south and another 40-50 years of misery will likely not change that.

At some point I guess you have to call it a day. And I'm really tired at this point. I view it as 'hanging on', but eventually the day is going to come where I don't want to anymore. It's sad. It's such a waste of a life. I often cry about what I feel I will end up doing. How it will hurt those around me. But they have a life, I have nothing.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

I don't think I'll make it either. I'm transgendered so my situation is quite different. I'll continue to try for a while yet but optimism is becoming scarce. I just can't integrate into this world. I never have and I don't think I ever will. There's ups and downs but the trend line is unmistakably heading south and another 40-50 years of misery will likely not change that.

At some point I guess you have to call it a day. And I'm really tired at this point. I view it as 'hanging on', but eventually the day is going to come where I don't want to anymore. It's sad. It's such a waste of a life. I often cry about what I feel I will end up doing. How it will hurt those around me. But they have a life, I have nothing.

:/ never give up! That's what I always say to myself. I used to be depress and I am still am honestly. I messed up in school and life a lot, but somehow I manage to be way above average own hard classes now. Slowly trying my best to improve my life, and just gotta keep on swimming ( finding memo )

 

[Agent Cooper]

Have you already sought medical advise?

I just today convinced my mom (after multiple failed and frustrating attempts) that I think something is wrong and I need help.

She said she'll schedule a therapy appt. Tuesday.

 

[forknknife]

I just today convinced my mom (after multiple failed and frustrating attempts) that I think something is wrong and I need help.

She said she'll schedule a therapy appt. Tuesday.

Good

In my case, just talking about what I was going through with my therapist already solved a big part of the problem and from then on it was much easier to overcome my fears by myself. I really hope that it works for you, too.

 

[Finaika]

I basically browsed GAF the entire day.

A normal day for me is pretty much; wake up, breakfast, gaf, dinner, gaf, bed.

Seems even more pathetic when I type it out like that.

I think most GAFers days is like that.

 

[coldvein]

I think most GAFers days is like that.

not the case.

plenty of us work, too.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Jeez. No clue. I'm going to guess it's not great.

On a quasi-related note, I've really had good luck taking fish oil. I'm skeptical of anything a drug company hasn't paid me to love, but it seems to be keeping me on an even keel. I'm at 4 or 5 weeks now.

Hahaha... you're the best.

 

[shintoki]

And here comes the usual wave of shit feelings. Nothing particularly happened, but I still get them. Lol.

 

[Bagels]

Used to be quite low. Moving my diet away from carbs and towards protein and fat over the last year has correlated heavily with my improving mental health.



On the flip side, fish oil hit me with lots of anxiety and insomnia. Definitely worth a shot - but just goes to show that, as always, your mileage may vary.

ps bagels i luv u

i luv u 2. Don't tell my wife.

I haven't looked that closely at the research on fish oil. I just decided to try it on a whim.


Fascinating stuff, iRAWRasaurus! I'm pretty sure there IS a cholesterol hypothesis of depression. I think it's related to the inflammatory hypothesis. I need to read up...

 

[Bagels]

Lol sorry for randomly asking but in my biochem class, we were talking about lipids and how there is a link with depression and low level of cholesterol. Since cholesterol helps the permeability of the cell member, a lack of cholesterol could decrease serotonin being able to enter the cell. I do know most depression medication alters the level of serotonin, so perhaps an increase in healthier cholesterol could help some people

I shall continue to drown out my depression with science... :/

Forgot to say - serotonin receptors (the ones implicated in depression) are G-protein coupled receptors - they're on the cell surface. Cell permeability could be important for some other reason, but serotonin does not need to cross the cell membrane to act.

 

[lunch]

i luv u 2. Don't tell my wife.

I thought you loved me.

 

[Bagels]

I thought you loved me.

I love you in a totally platonic way. With Piano, it's really quite gay.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Forgot to say - serotonin receptors (the ones implicated in depression) are G-protein coupled receptors - they're on the cell surface. Cell permeability could be important for some other reason, but serotonin does not need to cross the cell membrane to act.

haha fair enough, it was a quick overview of lipids (thats gonna be discussed for the next few weeks) still a student. still interesting to read up on.

 

[paile]

Forgot to say - serotonin receptors (the ones implicated in depression) are G-protein coupled receptors - they're on the cell surface. Cell permeability could be important for some other reason, but serotonin does not need to cross the cell membrane to act.

You could look at it like that. I see it from a different perspective. Depression is a symptom and one's intrinsic needs not being met in life.

 

[Empty]

I basically browsed GAF the entire day.

A normal day for me is pretty much; wake up, breakfast, gaf, dinner, gaf, bed.

Seems even more pathetic when I type it out like that.

yes so many days my favourite bit is when someone asks me what i did that day and i try to respond knowing that's literally all i did.

when i get the motivation i'm trying to at least one thing i can mention (or hypothetically mention) to someone else at the end of every day. it's probably unhealthy to use other peoples validation as a crux but it does motivate me more than just leaving it to myself.

 

[Partial Gamification]

I love you in a totally platonic way. With Piano, it's really quite gay.

I have mixed feelings about pharmaceuticals but you are a good human (thread lurker).

 

[scurker]

I only read through the last couple of pages, but am looking for a completely different answer I suppose. Does anyone else have a significant other that is/gets depressed?

The thing is, every so often my wife gets depressed and I have a hard time figuring out what to do. I try to help, but it sometimes nothing I do seems to help and can be frustrating for me as well. I know its not my fault, so I'm just looking for any kinds of tips or suggestions on what to do. It's difficult as well to be on the opposite end of depression and not knowing how to deal with it.

 

[Bagels]

haha fair enough, it was a quick overview of lipids (thats gonna be discussed for the next few weeks) still a student. still interesting to read up on.

Nah, it's still interesting stuff! It's a good thought - it just might not be the best explanation with regards to serotonin (which itself might not be the best explanation for depression!).

You could look at it like that. I see it from a different perspective. Depression is a symptom and one's intrinsic needs not being met in life.

This is honestly why I love psychiatry - my scientific training has been focused on individual molecules and how they work. And some of the answers for depression may be found at that level - in how receptors and signalling molecules work. But all the way on the other end of the scale, you have the incredible importance of the totality of people's lives. A pill that affects some neurotransmitter could make you feel better, but it won't magically make your entire life better. You have to come at the problem from multiple levels, from single molecules to entire societies. So I get to explore my love of science, but also draw from my other passions - literature, music, anthropology, history - it all matters.

 

[Bagels]

I only read through the last couple of pages, but am looking for a completely different answer I suppose. Does anyone else have a significant other that is/gets depressed?

The thing is, every so often my wife gets depressed and I have a hard time figuring out what to do. I try to help, but it sometimes nothing I do seems to help and can be frustrating for me as well. I know its not my fault, so I'm just looking for any kinds of tips or suggestions on what to do. It's difficult as well to be on the opposite end of depression and not knowing how to deal with it.

I think it's partly a male/female thing, but none of my female friends with depression actually want 'help' in the traditional sense. It took me a while to figure out, but unless people actually ask for advice, they don't really want it. Mainly, people just want someone to listen. I get medical question, too, so it's a bit different, I guess, but mainly people just want someone who listens and TRIES to understand.

I certainly appreciate my wife's patience and understanding. She also knows when to kick me in the butt a bit, which other people attempt to do and fail miserably at.

I dunno if that helps at all. Just, generally, unless someone explicitly asks for advice, they're probably not looking for it.


Too much love for Bagels on this page!

 

[Curtisaur]

this week has been rough

Mainly, people just want someone to listen.

you cool

you get things

thank you for your insight and participation

 

[User 100115]

I only read through the last couple of pages, but am looking for a completely different answer I suppose. Does anyone else have a significant other that is/gets depressed?

The thing is, every so often my wife gets depressed and I have a hard time figuring out what to do. I try to help, but it sometimes nothing I do seems to help and can be frustrating for me as well. I know its not my fault, so I'm just looking for any kinds of tips or suggestions on what to do. It's difficult as well to be on the opposite end of depression and not knowing how to deal with it.

Ask her if there is anything you can do. If she says no, respect it, but make sure she knows that you are there if she wants to talk. In my experience, the things that annoy the most when I am depressed is someone trying to cheer me up; by being funny or cracking jokes most especially. It's annoying because it doesn't work, and then I feel worse because I feel like I am somehow insulting them because it doesn't work.

Offer to watch a favorite movie or show with her, maybe. Distraction helps me a lot.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Nah, it's still interesting stuff! It's a good thought - it just might not be the best explanation with regards to serotonin (which itself might not be the best explanation for depression!).

This is honestly why I love psychiatry - my scientific training has been focused on individual molecules and how they work. And some of the answers for depression may be found at that level - in how receptors and signalling molecules work. But all the way on the other end of the scale, you have the incredible importance of the totality of people's lives. A pill that affects some neurotransmitter could make you feel better, but it won't magically make your entire life better. You have to come at the problem from multiple levels, from single molecules to entire societies. So I get to explore my love of science, but also draw from my other passions - literature, music, anthropology, history - it all matters.

O yeah agreed, pretty sure there are many factors upon many factors..but its deff a struggle to overcome depression.

Just gotta keep telling yourself to (attemp to ) look on the brighter side. sometimes tho, i tend to just focus on the depressing side of life..it sucks but eh gotta struggle :/

 

[goodfella]

A weird thing I found about being depressed is that often I found myself wishing/fantasising that people would take an interest in me or notice my problems.

However, when anyone actually did ask me how I was doing, or what was wrong, I would immediately shut down and say I was ok, and feel like the last thing I wanted to do was talk about my problems,

Weird.

 

[Bagels]

O yeah agreed, pretty sure there are many factors upon many factors..but its deff a struggle to overcome depression.

Just gotta keep telling yourself to (attemp to ) look on the brighter side. sometimes tho, i tend to just focus on the depressing side of life..it sucks but eh gotta struggle :/

It can be really, really hard when you're depressed, but you're absolutely right. I talked about that in one of my cartoon things - trying to find little moments of joy in life is just huge. I'm lucky I come from a family in which humor is such an important thing - I don't think I'd make it if I couldn't laugh about life (especially my own failings and shortcomings).

 

[Empty]

A weird thing I found about being depressed is that often I found myself wishing/fantasising that people would take an interest in me or notice my problems.

However, when anyone actually did ask me how I was doing, or what was wrong, I would immediately shut down and say I was ok, and feel like the last thing I wanted to do was talk about my problems,

Weird.

heh i do this a lot. i think it's that i want help, i'm just flooded with anxiety when it comes to opening up.

 

[Agent Cooper]

no!!!!!!!

i will not be sad forever!!!!!!!!

i am gonna be happy, no matter what!!!!!!

 

[Bagels]

Please accept this LIMITED EDITION, incredible, drawing of Prax as a token of my friendship and love.

copyright me.

 

[scurker]

I think it's partly a male/female thing, but none of my female friends with depression actually want 'help' in the traditional sense. It took me a while to figure out, but unless people actually ask for advice, they don't really want it. Mainly, people just want someone to listen. I get medical question, too, so it's a bit different, I guess, but mainly people just want someone who listens and TRIES to understand.

I certainly appreciate my wife's patience and understanding. She also knows when to kick me in the butt a bit, which other people attempt to do and fail miserably at.

I dunno if that helps at all. Just, generally, unless someone explicitly asks for advice, they're probably not looking for it.

I guess it's hard not to help, but at the same time I'm not sure what to do. I get frustrated because I don't like seeing her like that. I guess I need to try to talk to her when she's not depressed to kind of get a feeling for her thoughts, but I'm also afraid that might trigger it as well.

Ask her if there is anything you can do. If she says no, respect it, but make sure she knows that you are there if she wants to talk. In my experience, the things that annoy the most when I am depressed is someone trying to cheer me up; by being funny or cracking jokes most especially. It's annoying because it doesn't work, and then I feel worse because I feel like I am somehow insulting them because it doesn't work.

Offer to watch a favorite movie or show with her, maybe. Distraction helps me a lot.

Yeah, I've found distraction helps sometimes but usually only ends up being a temporary solution. I've got to get better at this I suppose. We've only been married for about 8 months so I'm still learning.