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Just 4.2% of managers at Nintendo Company in Japan are women, a number unchanged since the company first reported that gender-based stat in 2021, according to recent company filings.

Driving the news: Nintendo's annual report, published yesterday, offers further insights into the workforce at the main offices of the game maker in Japan, including a stark gender divide in pay.

Details: Women at Nintendo Co. make, on average, 72% of what men are paid, according to the annual report, the company's first to include the pay breakdown.

• Nintendo attributes that to issues of tenure in a place where workers stay at the company for an average of 14.3 years (and where veteran employees are mostly men).
• "The pay gap between male and female regular employees is mainly due to differences in the length of service and average age," the company noted: "There is no difference in treatment between men and women in terms of salary or evaluation systems."

Between the lines: The data covers Nintendo's Japanese offices, which employed 2,779 workers as of the end of March.

• The stats about its Japanese workforce were calculated in accordance with a 2015 law intended to promote greater participation of women in the workplace.

Yes, but: While Nintendo did not report a pay breakdown for the full company, including its subsidiaries in North America and Europe, it did recently calculate that 23.5% of its managers worldwide are women.

The big picture: Japan's gender wage gap is the largest among the G7 nations, followed by the United States', Reuters reports.

• In 2021, Nintendo noted it intended to increase the proportion of women in management: "We are recruiting women and creating an environment in which women can build successful careers."

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/06/nintendo-pay-gap-women

 

[TransTrender]

This thread needs to make like a tree and disappear

 

[Kamina]

Are there many females available for management positions on the Japanese market?

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I don't care

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Is this that purple place?

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Is this that purple place?

Yeah that person should go back to RetardEra

 

[OCASM]

Based Nintendo.

 

[Soodanim]

Maybe they're doing it the correct way and trying to address old biases without blindly promoting people that aren't the best for the job in the name of diversity like is known to happen in the western world.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Based Nintendo.

Agreed they know what's up

 

[killatopak]

While I understand the concerns, I question the motive. Shouldn't jobs be performance based?

I also wonder why the only segment of jobs that are complained about are high level ones. Nobody questions why 99% of construction, plumbing, electrical, and basically most blue collar jobs are predominantly male.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Yeah that person should go back to RetardEra

 

[01011001]

 

[SeraphJan]

As a woman myself, I can tell you through my personal experience that even most female manager would prefer hiring men to women (at least subconsciously, most of them are afraid to say it out loud, it could ruin her career), not because of performance or skill (women could be as skilled as men), its mainly due to a hidden factor which are very difficult to measure, "agency". Men typically have stronger agency compare to women, even men with lesser skill.

Nintendo need to keep at what they are doing, this has nothing to do with bias, its purely driven by results.

Edit: When you look at agency, you can't just look at the top 1%, try to see the average workers

Edit2: I don't think the agency difference are linked to biology, its just that in a general sense women typically have a choice of "safety measure" (if the career fails she would likely have another path to take by being a stay at home wife), where men mostly don't (if the career fails, that is the end for him). This safety measure I believe is what makes the psychological different when it comes to agency (I mean its common sense, people who can't afford to fail will of course try harder), I also believe if the expectation of the gender role were reversed, this agency difference will likely change.

 

[FingerBang]

While I understand the concerns, I question the motive. Shouldn't jobs be performance based?

They are performance based. Women aren't paid less for the same position and experience, they simply tend to quit when they get married and have kids. That's how japan works.

And that's the reason there is a "gap" in the western world.

I also wonder why the only segment of jobs that are complained about are high level ones. Nobody questions why 99% of construction, plumbing, electrical, and basically most blue collar jobs are predominantly male.

Because the people who push this bull crap are either people who profit from this kind of stuff or people with a postmodern idea of history where men, especially white, have been oppressing everybody else and now we have to fight the patriarchy with quotas.

They aren't trying to solve anything. If the gender pay gap or diversity in any industry was to ever get 'fixed", they wouldn't stop. They'd move to something else to deconstruct and tear down.

 

[Punished Miku]

As a woman myself, I can tell you through my personal experience that even most female manager would prefer hiring men to women (at least subconsciously, most of them are afraid to say it out loud, it could ruin her career), not because of performance or skill (women could be as skilled as men), its mainly due to a hidden factor which are very difficult to measure, "agency". Men typically have stronger agency compare to women, even men with lesser skill.

Nintendo need to keep at what they are doing, this has nothing to do with bias, its purely driven by results.

This is definitely not true. I couldn't care less what gender Nintendo's managers are, but I've had stone cold female bosses multiple times. There are plenty of doctors, lawyers, overflowing with agency like you can't imagine. If you want to keep it gaming related, just look at MS' lawyer in the FTC trial, or the judge.

 

[Robb]

Meh.. Hire based on skill, not gender. What you need are good people, not 50/50 men/women.

 

[FeralEcho]

Are there many females available for management positions on the Japanese market?

It doesnt matter,the percentages
must be up up up for these mentally challenged people,however you do it it just has to be moar than those lousy men and their high undeserved positions...

 

[Hudo]

Meh.. Hire based on skill, not gender. What you need are good people, not 50/50 men/women.

 

[tamago84]

Yeah that person should go back to RetardEra

For real every thread in retardera is about race/gender "inequality" in gaming. The ffxvi thread is laughable- they used theverge article too lmao

 

[Shits_McGiggles]

To quote the cumrag writers,

"AND THAT'S A GOOD THING."

 

[Hudo]

For real every thread in retardera is about race/gender "inequality" in gaming. The ffxvi thread is laughable- they used theverge article too lmao

because their hobby is not video games but virtue signaling and play victim, using video games as a catalyst. These are also the same people who don't like gameplay in their video game.

 

[Disco Dave]

343 Industries' Bonnie Ross talks industry diversity and the future of Halo

Halo boss Bonnie Ross has opened up about her vision of a more diverse video game industry and how Halo Infinite has been impacted by a diverse team.

www.gamerevolution.com

<Nintendo looks at the current "diversity hire" push that promotes physical attributes over talent and has led to the destruction of IPs>

Seriously, diversity is a fucking scourge that in may cases results in inferior products. I was reading through a few posts on Reeeeeeeee in a FF16 topic and they were bitching about the lack of diversity in the game. Someone posted a HR job vacancy for Square Enix and they were all over it like tramps on chips. A few of them commented that they had applied for the position and the changes they would propose if they got the position.

 

[pepodmc_]

Who cares about this? ...

 

[Disco Dave]

Shock.

This subject has is already being discussed in the social justice warriors tavern. Some comedy gold already. A few good meltdowns.

Remember friends, offence is taken, never given.

 

[Red5]

Eh looking at Japan's catastrophic population decline, Japanese companies should be encouraging women to better balance work and family instead of joining the corporate slave salaryman life in Japan.

 

[Shits_McGiggles]

Who cares about this? ...

Morons who think that a woman will have sex with them for caring.

 

[John Bilbo]

It's like the women are not even trying

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Ohnoanyway.gif

 

[Thief1987]

Shock.

This subject has is already being discussed in the social justice warriors tavern. Some comedy gold already. A few good meltdowns.

Remember friends, offence is taken, never given.

They permanently banned poor guy lol. Though leaving this asylum should be for the better

 

[Virex]

Who gives a flying fucking fuck. What a shit fucking thread

 

[Kamina]

Shock.

Remember friends, offence is taken, never given.

Imagine getting angry and report someone for having a different opinion.
"i'm not even going to give you the benefit of the doubt", what doubt? They guy disagreed. Where is even the problem with these mentality challenged individuals?

 

[Disco Dave]

It's like the women are not even trying

They dot have to try. That's the problem with diversity hiring.

 

[Red5]

They permanently banned poor guy lol. Though leaving this asylum should be for the better

I remember one of the founders of that place calling it a caricature of how the right sees the left, after selling it.

 

[Tams]

Are there many females available for management positions on the Japanese market?

Ones with the appropriate and relevant skills, who know what fun is, and mostly importantly love computer games?

Seems like a very limited pool to me. Then add in, from my experience, many Japanese women still wanting to take a few years of work if they have children...

 

[Hudo]

I bet you any money* that the retards from ERA are already mentioning this thread on here, talking about "the old place" and how we're all misogynistic Nazis.

*about 1 Zimbabwe Dollar

 

[nkarafo]

This stupid trend still goes on? Aren't people tired yet?

 

[GHound]

Who the fuck cares?
Edit: Disregard. I'm well aware of the idiots that care.

 

[nial]

I remember one of the founders of that place calling it a caricature of how the right sees the left, after selling it.

Did he? I would imagine he isn't that different from the rest of the people there.

 

[Fbh]

Oh no, if only they would hire and promote people based on their gender Im sure they wouldn't be in such a bad financial situation with poor Switch sales and first party games bombing left and right

I also wonder why the only segment of jobs that are complained about are high level ones. Nobody questions why 99% of construction, plumbing, electrical, and basically most blue collar jobs are predominantly male.

Because the whole gender inequality argument (at least in a modern first world country) only works if you compare 100% of women with the top 1% of men.
Once you compare 100% of the women with 100% of the men most of it falls apart.

 

[Drizzlehell]

I've had good female managers and I've worked with terrible female managers. It's not really about gender but about qualifications. If fewer women have what it takes to be a manager then it's not a man's fault they don't have the required competencies. Hiring someone based purely on their gender is almost bound to end up in a disaster because that person will likely be unqualified to do the job properly.

 

[Outlier]

While I understand the concerns, I question the motive. Shouldn't jobs be performance based?

I also wonder why the only segment of jobs that are complained about are high level ones. Nobody questions why 99% of construction, plumbing, electrical, and basically most blue collar jobs are predominantly male.

It's not honor, glory, or self sacrifice (hard work) they seek.
It's fame, prestige, and privilege.

 

[Red5]

Did he? I would imagine he isn't that different from the rest of the people there.

Yeah one of the founders, can't find the exact quote.

All of the original founders who left here, Shinobi, Nibel and Daniel sold RetardEra and left it. It's an echo chamber for mentally ill people now where video game discussions inevitably boils down to the dicks and vaginas for some reason.

 

[Bergoglio]

What counts are skills, what you can do. Not gender. If Nintendo has few women at executive level, and the reasons are on skills, they have acted legitimately. If, on the other hand, they had female candidates, with skills, and they cut them out, then that's another matter.

 

[Nihilum]

 

[Bergoglio]

The most important thing remains the fact that, if I were the CEO of Nintendo and I realize that certain skills are only found in males, then my executive will be composed of only males. And vice versa. Business is business. I don't have time to waste with social justice warriors on the street.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Fuck a doodle do

 

[yazenov]

Men rule the world. Deal with it.

 

[X-Wing]

I mean, Nintendo is a Japanese company and Japan still has a very patriarchal society. It's hard for Japanese women to grow inside Japanese companies and it's also hard for them to come out in cases of sexual discrimination or abuse/harassment.
This shouldn't be celebrated.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

I wonder when Reuters is finally going to expose the blatant lack of women working in the boats of Japan's bluefin tuna fishing.

I mean look at all this awful patriarchy:




Think of all the women who really wanted to have this wonderful job but they can't because of their gender.

 

[Ozzie666]

It's amazing how people are quick to give people's money away and let someone's lively hood and business go belly up. Pick the best person for your company with a nice balance of good managing and profit making.
The people bitching aren't the ones risking their own cash or owning any companies of value. Sometimes the cards don't align, and you can't exactly advertise a great position with the caveat, females need only apply. Defeats the purpose, doesn't it? I don't really care what Japan does, different country, different culture, I can't speak to it, nor should I.