Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft- are they still rivals

Do these companies still compete with each other like they used to?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 26.4%

  • No

    Votes: 31 35.6%

  • Partially (about 10% overlap)

    Votes: 33 37.9%
  • Total voters
    87
Did anyone really attempt the steam box thing. I remember talks of it years and years ago, but I dont think I ever saw one. Especially not in the UK. was this more a US thing? I cant seem to find anything online really, apart from convos around it.
 
DenchDeckard said:
Did anyone really attempt the steam box thing. I remember talks of it years and years ago, but I dont think I ever saw one. Especially not in the UK. was this more a US thing? I cant seem to find anything online really, apart from convos around it.
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What was the point.

Publishers and Valve got all money from games sales.

OEMs who made them had to sell at a profit to make up for this.

Was basically 3DO all over again, PC business model with none of the benefits of owning a PC.

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Alienware Steam Machine (2015) review: A new gaming console with the heart of a PC

The Alienware Steam Machine is a bold experiment in PC/console crossover gaming, but you may just want to stick with the larger game library on the Windows version of this hardware.
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RetroGamingUK said:
What was the point.

Publishers and Valve got all money from games sales.

OEMs who made them had to sell at a profit to make up for this.

Was basically 3DO all over again, PC business model with none of the benefits of owning a PC.
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I'm just saying I dont think I ever saw one. did you?
 
I wonder if with gaming maturing whether things will be that different in the future. It's 2040…

- Some people are playing Gran Turismo 9 on PS7

- Some people are playing Mario Wonder 3 on Switch 3

- Some people are playing Elder Scrolls 9 on Windows with an Xbox pad

- iPhone gaming is still trash but insanely popular

- Cloud gaming is still a pipe dream
 
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justiceiro said:
They literally sued each other for Activision. They make deals for one platform be left out of the marketing of another one.

This is competition. Not as ferocious, but they would jump in each other's throats given the chance.
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The funny thing about this was this was the writting on the wall for Microsoft going third party. Sony was worried about competing still Microsoft was worried about more market share and a possibility for Sony having game pass with owning one of its best selling games on the console. But idea was cooked.
 
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SNG32 said:
The funny thing about this was this was the writting on the wall for Microsoft going third party. Sony was worried about competing still Microsoft was worried about more market share and a possibility for Sony having game pass with owning one of its best selling games on the console. But idea was cooked.
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At this rate there won't be any Xbox third party

They'll be reduced to Activision and Bethesda and everyone will just be getting what they'd have gotten before the acquisitions anyway.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Steam has spent 0 dollars advertising anything and has more users than the entirety of PSN and 2 super successful GaaS games. Lmao.
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Controversial thought, but Valve has probably been one of the biggest users of astroturfing I've ever seen.

The discussions around the time EGS came out kinda proved this in my mind.
 
Steam dominates the PC gaming space, and the hard truth for Microsoft is that they lack a stronghold comparable to their main competitors. At this point, they can almost be considered a third-party publisher. In that role, they may finally find success — not through industry-leading innovation or competence, but through the financial power of their parent company, which allows them to buy out the competition.
 
Don't know if I see them as rivals anymore. Sony and MS are collaborating for a bigger cause while Nintendo is like the autistic child that doesn't give a fuck and does its own thing
 
I totally think Nintendo sees themselves as rivals to Sony and Microsoft. That's why they're protective of their IP and won't let it be seen on any other platform. That's why they'll never add Samus to Fortnite or something, because they won't let it be on another platform. Exclusives is a sign of strength I think. It shows that they make enough money without needing to resort to every which way to try and make up cost. Seeing how Sony has dabbled in doing third party releases, or going almost completely third party like Microsoft, it shows to me that Nintendo has the upper hand.
 
They are in constant indirect competition, but they are not in direct competition anymore. Each company has taken over a specific slice of the market and leveraging exclusivity is not gonna help get millions crossing over platforms at every gen transition point.

The value of an exclusive library dwindles when every platform is as bombarded with games every month. No one was experiencing any kind of drought for games at any point in this generation!
 
Not like they used to. Sony and Microsoft are no longer in direct competition. Nintendo have never really been in direct competition with either have they? Even when they had capable hardware like the gamecube, they still got inconsistent 3rd party support. Nintendo have a whole different audience.
 
I just wish we'll have one day a standardized agnostic video game platform that people can use to play games without these predatory intermediaries that divides the market. PC is close to it but not quite yet.

No Sony TV ? Bad luck, can't watch Sony movies. It's exactly the same with consoles and people somehow defend this anti-consumer model ...
 
RetroGamingUK said:
Are they now done trying to compete with each other? Has each company realised their strengths and weaknesses and decided to focus on different markets?
What do you think?
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Publicly traded companies are never "done". They always want to maximize their profits for stakeholders. So even if things might seem calm now between competitors, it doesn't mean they aren't looking for ways to take marketshare from eachother. Sony will probably try to do that with a handheld console in the future and Nintendo might market the TV capablities of NS2 much more.
 
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DenchDeckard said:
Did anyone really attempt the steam box thing. I remember talks of it years and years ago, but I dont think I ever saw one. Especially not in the UK. was this more a US thing? I cant seem to find anything online really, apart from convos around it.
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Yeah valve with the steam deck.
 
Eh, it's like separating cars by segment because the SUV isn't "competing" with the sedan. In the end they're both going after your money for how you spend your time sitting in a seat traveling from point A to B, it's the same with video games.
 
Between 2001 and 2006 yes, now, no they aren't rivals, Sony has had it all too easy for the past 2 generations....I can't see that changing either anytime soon..
 
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