what do you mean? basically you would need 2 Exotic Shards to upgrade Hawkmoon to 330, but exotic DLC items like Dragon's Breath would only need 1 (because it is a DLC, not old stuff)
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what do you mean? basically you would need 2 Exotic Shards to upgrade Hawkmoon to 330, but exotic DLC items like Dragon's Breath would only need 1 (because it is a DLC, not old stuff)
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Again, this would only be valid if the level 30 enemies had the same health and resistances as the level 28 enemies.
A 300 gun will do the exact same damage to a 30 and a 28. So yes, a 300 damage gun in the new nightfall will do the EXACT SAME damage as it would have in 28 nightfall.
The only reason to have a 300 gun previously was the hard mode raid. There was nothing in the game above level 28 outside of that. So if you didn't do the hard mode, there was no reason to level a gun to 300 outside of iron banner.
Jinjo
Member
It's okay, but honestly you gotta be a bit more clear in that regard sometimes. I can appreciate trying to alleviate our concerns quickly though.
However to a lot of people the main concern was that we were gonna lose all our progress for our exotics that we spend so much levelling up just for some extra damage/defense. Basicly having to start over. It's a really artificial way of extending your games length and not fun.
While the RNG-like nature of Xur definitely was another concern it is better than I had anticipated. Still, I remember the gunsmith story, where we should be able to choose what guns we want in our loadout. This new system is (again) limiting us in our options. We are all invested as players and really do enjoy Destiny. That's why we are so passionate about it. We rejoiced the latest patch in all the improvements it brought, which was gained through actual player feedback. This just feels like a huge step in the wrong direction. It feels like we are being forced to start over and thus lose a huge part of our time investment in this game.
Thanks for acknowledging your mistake in communicating. I appreciate it.
Dunno if GAF does though lol
Xamtheking
Member
Trials Of Osiris hype
Did they really? That's amazing :lol
They have made no mention of these changes, if they exist. At this point, I'm extremely hesitant to believe that Bungie is willing to make ANY changes that benefit their players.
Great, so it's useless in the raid, the only meaningful content in the game. Not seeing much of a distinction here, to be honest.
You aren't wrong... It's just a shame... There are so many weapons in the game, but they're essentially forcing us to use just a small handful of them with these changes. Kinda sucks.
:x
It boils down to respecting the time spent by the player.
Sure, they're not taking anything away if you choose not to spend the new currency they've introduced to give the player yet another thing to grind towards, but not keeping pace with the leveling renders the weapon obsolete, making the upgrade a necessary one if you actually want to use it.
It's one thing to make a player buy a new shard to finish the upgrade, but grind all over again (and again when the next expansion drops with a higher level cap, right?) is a slap in the face.
CouchMaster
Member
Oh I didn't think of it that way. Well fuck that, good thing I didn't buy season pass and almost pulled the trigger on this DLC but didn't.
That's my issue too. It's crazy how long it takes to level a single exotic (one at a time too). Having to re-level old ones plus level new ones is an absolute chore at best. It's pretty insulting to the player base that already spent countless hours playing the game and leveling stuff.
Waylon Drums
Member
That was the only way I ever got an exotic engram before. I'm finding less and less reason to keep playing.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
You're not getting it.
Yes, it will do the same damage.
However, it's the difference of doing 300 damage to a level 28 enemies with 3000 health
to
Doing 300 damage to a level 30 enemies with 4500 health.
There is no reason to doubt that they will have more health. It's the same reason why you can do 300 damage to a level 3 dreg and kill him at level 28, yet if you try doing 300 damage to a level 24 dreg at level 28 you WON'T kill them.
What's so hard to understand?
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Seriously; this game is the biggest joke in gaming history.
And the problem is that the raid will only be accessible 3 times a week max.
Yes, but the XP variable is still huge. Why punish people that max out their weapons/armor? It doesn't make sense.
There are reasons why casinos use psychological tricks to keep people gambling. That's essentially what's happening here, except Bungie is more inept at pretending like they care about their customers. They should be trying to win people back, not cater to the grind whales who are going to be there regardless.
Your 300 damage to enemies with 4500 health will not change if your gun is 320. It'll still do 300 damage. Again, do you not understand how Destiny works? It's blatantly obvious that you don't.
breakfuss
Member
I'm certain this isn't true. I kept my IB at 280 or whatever is one away from 300 for ages and my 300 Supremacy always did more damage in Nightfalls, when I upgraded my IB, it surpassed it.
To be honest the damage of these weapons won't be a problem. Destiny is easy as shit and bosses are damage sponges regardless. Being more powerful doesn't affect difficulty since strategy is based on patience and not being fucking bored shooting the 300th Sniper Round. But the reason people kept playing the same shit was because they felt like they could make progress. Bungie's update takes the progress we made and give a big fuck you.
Xur will upgrade random, or well, Bungie chosen shit, whether we worked on it or not. That means that The Last Word sitting in someone's back that they never used will be more powerful than the weapon they loved because Xur is selling that uograde rather than the one for the levelled up weapon.
I got back in because the patch was benefitting players. Now I understand why it is there. This is fucking stupid. I really wish I never played it. I have wasted my time on so many games in my life but Destiny makes me angry and Bungie know full damn well the kind of skinner's box they have created.
Destiny is no better than nicotine. Just put some nicotine on Destiny's game box and lick it once every so hour. Soon you will be coming back to it day after day, licking the box but not being made happy from it.
Are you guys aware that Ascendant Materials were not the problem in the grind?
I have 300+ Shards and 200+ Energies.
The XP is the real issue here.
That's because ice breaker and supremacy have different impact
I believe I read that exotics upgrade faster and without materials save the shard for the last node.
It's a sad day... My favorite developer and my favorite gaming franchise dead within months of each other.
At least I can drown my sorrows in Smash Bros. and Pokemon.
;_;
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
More like one step forward, two steps back. Lately, its been more like 3 steps back.
Sword Of Doom
Member
You guys could have came up with another system for leveling the exotics to the new attack cap. I'm sure you're aware that exotics take a very long time to level. Most people don't appreciate having to completely discard their previous progress and start from scratch. Someone who has spent 200k+ XP on a weapon is in the same position as someone who has not spent one second leveling their weapon. That is not smart on your end and why would I spend time on non essential weapons like my Hard light when I know I will have to do it all over again once the next expansion is released? I would rather not level most of my exotic weapons.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Honestly, this update should have been released along with Mondays patch. All of this could have been avoided.
The penalty is a hit to dedicated players. Most of all you killed my The Devil You Know.
Anton Sugar
Member
No offense, but are you aware it IS a problem for some players?
I had to dismantle some legendary armor I had in storage yesterday just to get the shards needed for level 29. My buddy is in the exact same boat.
Not everyone plays the raid weekly, y'all. The raid is a huge source of income and ascendant mats, but not everyone has patience to play it weekly, let alone multiple times a week.
The Lamonster
Member
Ascendants were not the problem, XP is the problem.
Losing our exotic perks is a problem, too.
Look at what I am quoting. The point was that apparently going 300 wouldn't have changed the dmg to LV28 enemies. It's not true. Fucking Bungie apologists are trying to say that it is our fault for upgrading to 300 if it wasn't exclusively for the Raid.
I upgrade TLW and it loses everything that made it a different gun until I unlock its abilities again. Bungie won't change this policy because it will force people to keep playing in hopes to getting what they once had.
ChoklitCow
Member
Not enough content to have that much forward movement.
Hype for one-off most likely unbalanced event every 6 months.
Fuck this Bungie. Can't believe we waited 4 years for this failure.
As someone who is (or I guess was before today) leveling my Vex I can promise you it isn't any faster after the patch.
You don't pay a sub so don't expect much out of Destiny's special events.
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
Team chat? Better Exotics? No?
Anton Sugar
Member
Forwards, not backwards! Upwards, not forwards! And always twirling, twirling into mind-numbing decisions!
NullPointer
Member
Isn't the purpose of exotics to create an incentive/excuse for players to endure long grinds?
There are free to play games with better events.
i say just wait fir Destiny 2, they messed with the games way to much at this point, at least in a sequel they got a fair chance to fix what was wrong with Destiny first time around, i also dont recommend pre-ordering, best to wait and see if they fixed it up.
if you want more play out of destiny be my guest, but this wasnt the bungie game i was hoping for.
also it sucks that i gotta regrind some of my weapons, the only time i pop back in Destiny is for Crucible
if you want more play out of destiny be my guest, but this wasnt the bungie game i was hoping for.
also it sucks that i gotta regrind some of my weapons, the only time i pop back in Destiny is for Crucible
"One right turn in the right direction, two steps back."
posted this in the destiny OT; maybe someone here can answer this.
i didn't have a maxed vex mythoclast so i don't know how they implemented the attack increase with that one, anyone with a maxed mytho did it just upgrade in damage after the patch without you having to do any other upgrades? if so why doesn't bungie just do that with ALL the old maxed exotics?
i didn't have a maxed vex mythoclast so i don't know how they implemented the attack increase with that one, anyone with a maxed mytho did it just upgrade in damage after the patch without you having to do any other upgrades? if so why doesn't bungie just do that with ALL the old maxed exotics?
If you had trouble getting ass material, exotic shards will be even harder to come by.
It's a slap in the face to people who already time.
"Oh so you did this already? Well tough shit, do it again".
But there is no one forcing you to upgrade. Your weapon did not get weaker, just now has an even higher limit if you want it to.
I can understand how you feel, I just accept that gaming can be very liquid these days. Combos and links in fighting games that worked in 1.03 might not work in 1.04 of a fighting game. You may have grinded the combo for days and gotten the muscle memory to perform it perfectly, but then becomes for nothing. It is unfortunate, but this is the age of constant updates.