Lord of Castamere
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Well now you guys can farm even more stuff, doubling or even tripling that meaningful content. Dat endgame MMO that I clearly don't get.
So can someone confirm for me:
All my raid gear is now obsolete. There's no upgrade path. I'm now expected to continuing raiding weekly for the chance (with my luck meaning it won't happen) to get the new higher level raid gear. For my exotic year I have to wait until Xur has the upgrade, buy an upgrade, spend 7000 glimmer, level it again, and buy an exotic to finish levelling it? All the while essentially permanently stuck in level behind all of my friends unless I get really lucky - which has yet to happen for me.
For anyone interested, I've created a Xur simulator to calculate the probability of rolling the exotic armor you want next week. Results are in for Week 1:
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You play to enjoy the game not worry about your "hard work" being moot when more content comes out. That's pretty standard for MMOs and other MMO-like games. It should of been fun getting the old gear and to level 30 and now you should have fun trying to get the newest gear to level 32. If you are really that upset your weapons and armor are mostly going to be obsolete (they are even giving you an upgrade avenue!!) then you are playing the wrong game
Case in point. Umm how about you having fun? If you had fun doing it, then who cares, you'll have fun getting the new stuff and/or upgrading your old stuff again. If you didn't have fun doing the old stuff why the hell bother playing the game?
You know look, I hate to bloviate on this, but this is what really pisses me off .........
WHERE IS THE COMPENSATION FOR ALL THE TIME, EFFORT AND MATERIALS I SPENT UPGRADING MY WEAPONS!?!?!
In my opinion it is BS enough making me have to buy an "upgraded" version of the weapon I already own. However, you also totally discount the fact that the weapon is upgraded? A new version of a weapon is treated the same as a fully upgraded one? There is no compensation for all the expense you went through to get that weapon maxed out?
How is this even allowed to happen? It is a complete disgrace!
DeeJ we know you're reading. You wanna pat this guy on the back or something? A hug? He's clearly not getting anything else for his time so you could at least give him a little love.
Wow. Yea um I agree. This is 1 step forward and 3 steps back. Just wow.
lolwut
So basically my son was ecstatic to get the Thorn bounty done, and he has been maniacally working to level it to get Mark of the Devourer. He finally got it and is crushing pvp more than usual.
So this change means: If the Thorn is to reach the new level caps, (to hang in the level 30-32 game) I would have to spend coins to buy shards to respec a gun that he just spent hours and hours filling in circles? I mean hours! H.O.U.R.S. even with telemetries!
He would have to do all that... Again?
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding. That instead, Bungie will add one or two or heck, even another column of bubbles (to existing maxed exotics) to accomplish the same thing.
Not. All. Of. Them.
Please guys, don't take a wizz on someone's head and tell them it's raining. Sad face.
You know look, I hate to bloviate on this, but this is what really pisses me off .........
WHERE IS THE COMPENSATION FOR ALL THE TIME, EFFORT AND MATERIALS I SPENT UPGRADING MY WEAPONS!?!?!
In my opinion it is BS enough making me have to buy an "upgraded" version of the weapon I already own. However, you also totally discount the fact that the weapon is upgraded? A new version of a weapon is treated the same as a fully upgraded one? There is no compensation for all the expense you went through to get that weapon maxed out?
How is this even allowed to happen? It is a complete disgrace!
Normally you would just get a whole new tier of items and your current stuff would be trashed. This allows your old exotics to be recommissioned for current tier. I much prefer this than having to go and get all new tier exotics.
I don't think this is exactly true. The person who spent all that time maxing an exotic will start with causing 301 damage with. I perks (have to re-grind them). The person who has a freshly minted exotic will start off at 260 with no perks. The only thing you are doing all over again is grinding perks.
Would you have preferred your 200k XP just be wasted on a gun that is basically useless or spend time playing the game and making your gun more powerful?
So basically my son was ecstatic to get the Thorn bounty done, and he has been maniacally working to level it to get Mark of the Devourer. He finally got it and is crushing pvp more than usual.
So this change means: If the Thorn is to reach the new level caps, (to hang in the level 30-32 game) I would have to spend coins to buy shards to respec a gun that he just spent hours and hours filling in circles? I mean hours! H.O.U.R.S. even with telemetries!
He would have to do all that... Again?
Please tell me I'm misunderstanding. That instead, Bungie will add one or two or heck, even another column of bubbles (to existing maxed exotics) to accomplish the same thing.
Not. All. Of. Them.
Please guys, don't take a wizz on someone's head and tell them it's raining. Sad face.
I don't think its unreasonable at all.
If I have a 0% upgraded ice breaker and a 100% upgraded ice breaker, they both become 0% upgraded ice breakers+ when I trade them in to xur.
It makes no sense. It should at least refund some/all of the materials and glimmer that it cost to upgrade to whatever level the weapon was at.
Ascendant materials are most certainly the bottleneck now that planet resources are fixed up, especially if you don't have good access to non matchmade modes. I got four ascendant materials from the daily story today (two for completion, one from sharding a legendary set of armor I got from it). That's 2/3 of the way down one perk on my five legendary items I'm trying to level. Without time in the raid (which I haven't done yet) it will take me a few more weeks to finish leveling that gear.
This.
If that's how it works then yes, that's complete and total batshit. You can't remove the fruits of a grind and replace it with nothing.I don't think its unreasonable at all.
If I have a 0% upgraded ice breaker and a 100% upgraded ice breaker, they both become 0% upgraded ice breakers+ when I trade them in to xur.
It makes no sense. It should at least refund some/all of the materials and glimmer that it cost to upgrade to whatever level the weapon was at.
So all the time i have spent upgrading my Exotic weapons was for nothing? Fully upgraded exotics shouldn't start at the same upgrade path as non upgraded ones, since it simply benefits people with non upgraded exotics and makes us all who spent time, materials and experience upgrading them look like fools.
I agree but this is about people who find ass mats hard to come by but don't have time to do the Raid (which is actually really short).
The fact you can get destination materials so easy now is good (although it might be overkill at its current state perhaps? lol), but I disagree with people saying the Exotic shard change is for the better. It really isn't. You have to wait for Xur if you don't have spare exotics.
If that's how it works then yes, that's complete and total batshit. You can't remove the fruits of a grind and replace it with nothing.
I can't believe that's actually how its supposed to work, really.
I love how naive Deej's quote about removing ascendant materials from exotics is.
Is it just Deej or does Bungie as a whole really have no idea what's going on?
I love how naive Deej's quote about removing ascendant materials from exotics is.
Is it just Deej or does Bungie as a whole really have no idea what's going on?
So can someone confirm for me:
All my raid gear is now obsolete. There's no upgrade path. I'm now expected to continuing raiding weekly for the chance (with my luck meaning it won't happen) to get the new higher level raid gear. For my exotic year I have to wait until Xur has the upgrade, buy an upgrade, spend 7000 glimmer, level it again, and buy an exotic to finish levelling it? All the while essentially permanently stuck in level behind all of my friends unless I get really lucky - which has yet to happen for me.
I am very glad I'm not getting the dlc now, because this move would totally destroy my personal end game. My end game is owning all the exotic and raid pieces maxxed out. I'm only doing this for the base game now. The collectathon must end. PEACE.
Exactly.
There are people that do not play on Friday and Saturday, Bungie. What about those people? Fuck em right?
Dat grindI don't understand why Xur or Eris doesn't just have a weapon modification that cost 7k glimmer and needs a shard to add bubbles to get the guns to the new cap.
-Have you played an MMO?
-Have you, from playing the MMO, seen how long they take to make whole sets of gear obsolete?
-Have you tried a F2P game like Warframe? How does that compare to Destiny in your opinion in doing this sort of thing?
You can go back to see my posts on how I play Destiny for fun, but to say we should just accept it and throw our very recent playtime we put into it in the trash just to do it all over again for fun is hilarious to say the least.
Just so you know, grinding isn't fun and this update means that I will toss several weapons that I enjoy using for fun or for utility in storage because I'm not going to grind all that exp and glimmer all over again even with my friends playing with me.
So all the time i have spent upgrading my Exotic weapons was for nothing? Fully upgraded exotics shouldn't start at the same upgrade path as non upgraded ones, since it simply benefits people with non upgraded exotics and makes us all who spent time, materials and experience upgrading them look like fools.
I just posted the point to KingGothalian (#1 destiny streamer) and he agreed.
Xur needs to be there more than just Friday or Saturday, because for people who work weekends are fucked. They will NEVER be able to upgrade their gear now.
So either Xur stays all the time, or Bungie is just saying fuck those people.
I'd do the raid if it had matchmaking. It's a pain to coordinate doing a raid even with an in game clan as there isn't even a method of seeing who in your clan is currently online.
I don't understand why Xur or Eris doesn't just have a weapon modification that cost 7k glimmer and needs a shard to add bubbles to get the guns to the new cap.
DeeJ we know you're reading. You wanna pat this guy on the back or something? A hug? He's clearly not getting anything else for his time so you could at least give him a little love.
I just posted the point to KingGothalian (#1 destiny streamer) and he agreed.
Xur needs to be there more than just Friday or Saturday, because for people who work weekends are fucked. They will NEVER be able to upgrade their gear now.
So either Xur stays all the time, or Bungie is just saying fuck those people.
I just posted the point to KingGothalian (#1 destiny streamer) and he agreed.
Xur needs to be there more than just Friday or Saturday, because for people who work weekends are fucked. They will NEVER be able to upgrade their gear now.
So either Xur stays all the time, or Bungie is just saying fuck those people.
Even refunding crap is a slap to the face, for me. Just give me some upgrade bubbles!
are the gonna remove the glimmer cap
I'm going to go with "No."
The upgrade path should just be patched in. Your current 300 now goes to 3__ with another column of bubbles and that should be it.
Making you pay on top of all that grinding is just. Awful.
or allow us to do business with Xur via the companion app.
I can use the auction house in the WoW app, and that thing is like 5 years old.