Lord of Castamere
Member
Well now you guys can farm even more stuff, doubling or even tripling that meaningful content. Dat endgame MMO that I clearly don't get.
Destiny: Exotic weapons fixed.... and then broken.
- Thread starter Victory Red
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Well the new raid starts at 30, so it will at least get you going for that, but otherwise, yeah pretty much.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
For anyone interested, I've created a Xur simulator to calculate the probability of rolling the exotic armor you want next week. Results are in for Week 1:
Bwahahaha.
-Have you played an MMO?
-Have you, from playing the MMO, seen how long they take to make whole sets of gear obsolete?
-Have you tried a F2P game like Warframe? How does that compare to Destiny in your opinion in doing this sort of thing?
You can go back to see my posts on how I play Destiny for fun, but to say we should just accept it and throw our very recent playtime we put into it in the trash just to do it all over again for fun is hilarious to say the least.
Just so you know, grinding isn't fun and this update means that I will toss several weapons that I enjoy using for fun or for utility in storage because I'm not going to grind all that exp and glimmer all over again even with my friends playing with me.
Dear Bungie,
You are stupid. You are sooooooooooooo stupid. Do you even play your own game? Do you ever drop in and chat with randoms? Decisions like this make ZERO sense to the community. There is no logic in it. Admit your poor planning in the game design and give us the new bump for free.
I am only missing 3 exotic weapons and 3 exotic helms. Everything else I own and have maxxed. I maxxed the last ones last week. I am very glad I'm not getting the dlc now, because this move would totally destroy my personal end game. My end game is owning all the exotic and raid pieces maxxed out. I'm only doing this for the base game now. The collectathon must end. PEACE.
You are stupid. You are sooooooooooooo stupid. Do you even play your own game? Do you ever drop in and chat with randoms? Decisions like this make ZERO sense to the community. There is no logic in it. Admit your poor planning in the game design and give us the new bump for free.
I am only missing 3 exotic weapons and 3 exotic helms. Everything else I own and have maxxed. I maxxed the last ones last week. I am very glad I'm not getting the dlc now, because this move would totally destroy my personal end game. My end game is owning all the exotic and raid pieces maxxed out. I'm only doing this for the base game now. The collectathon must end. PEACE.
Anton Sugar
Member
I completely understand that every game is technically a time sink--but most reward you for your efforts and time.
Moves like this show a complete disregard and lack of respect for the players time.
There's a reason why, when MMOs make big changes (such as a leveling system or skill tree), they reset you to zero and then give you all the points you had previously earned, so you can re-spec how you want. Why? Because you had already played and earned those upgrades/spec points.
I don't think its unreasonable at all.
If I have a 0% upgraded ice breaker and a 100% upgraded ice breaker, they both become 0% upgraded ice breakers+ when I trade them in to xur.
It makes no sense. It should at least refund some/all of the materials and glimmer that it cost to upgrade to whatever level the weapon was at.
xplicitone
Member
3 steps back is generous. I LOVED their latest patch and nothing has drove me to stop playing (or even close to) and this is getting me really close. If I didn't get this expansion, I'd be done.
Elaborate which part you dont understand?
The fact that i am not happy about this change?
Or the fact that they chose a half assed method, but still understandable with in realm of its lunacy?
Or the fact that it be easier if they would let us levele more then one weapon and armor peace at a time?
Sadface
3 fucking months in. 2 months from the raid was released, and everything from the raid is obsolete. Fucking hell.
panama chief
Member
This is the question of the day for me. I don't waste time in this game. I get an exotic and max that thing out quick. I grind and do bounties for all 3 characters, trading guns and making sure it gets all the exp it can. Now my 300 is being treated like I just bought it? My effort and time mean nothing? Who decided that this is ok? Who are they trying to appeal to with this kind of logic? I can see Bungie now...
"Hey day 1 Destiny Supporter, we see you've been putting in some work. You're a couple hundred hours in and those guns/gear look great!! We want you to pewpew to the max so when we drop the DLC, we're going to give u a chance to enhance some of those guns you've been busting your ass to level.
We know how much u enjoy the gameplay...so as a favor were going to drop the exp on the gun to zero! Take this as a moment to really dig in and enjoy the new content, repeatedly, as you've been doing with the existing content. We know u can do it guardian! And trust us, once u get that gear up to level 32, you'll thank us. GODSPEED!"
Sigh. And the first thing I did when I get home? "Xbox on....go to Destiny". The fuck is wrong with me?
Yeah that's the thing. But, I see people like to complain just because they have to do something more. They could have just left old gear as lower level, thus trashed. At least they are giving people the ability to upgrade them.
Besides, they don't require ascendant materials anymore, so the upgrade process isn't as arduous as it used to be.
The best bet will be to look for new gear, but if you still like some old gear then you have a chance to upgrade it. I don't see this as such a bad thing. Doesn't hurt the fact that I haven't fully upgraded any exotic weapons yet though.
But it's just a matter of if you like playing the game, if you like leveling up the weapons. If not, well, you don't have to. It's not like the game is going to change drastically at this point.
Sword Of Doom
Member
There is nowhere in Bungie's statement where it states you are only grinding perks. Please show me where you got this information because that would be a lot better than what I think they want us to do which is start leveling the weapon all over again
He wouldn't need to upgrade the gun for PvP but if he plans to use it for PvE then yes.
xplicitone
Member
The Lamonster
Member
I love how naive Deej's quote about removing ascendant materials from exotics is.
Is it just Deej or does Bungie as a whole really have no idea what's going on?
Is it just Deej or does Bungie as a whole really have no idea what's going on?
...Scatter...
Banned
Yeah, go ahead and get to raiding. You'll be drowning in ass shards in no time. Raid gear will allude you like a mother***** though. That's the real grind. Raid gear.
I have 3 characters, one at 30 and two at 29 so I can raid often and multiple weeklies, etc. I always have a lot of strange coins & motes. If I was smart though I would have made two characters of my favorite class so I could raid twice a week for the same class and increase my chances for raid gear. Instead I have a Lock, a Titan and a Hunter. That's my bad for not thinking ahead.
NullPointer
Member
Angelcurio
Member
So all the time i have spent upgrading my Exotic weapons was for nothing? Fully upgraded exotics shouldn't start at the same upgrade path as non upgraded ones, since it simply benefits people with non upgraded exotics and makes us all who spent time, materials and experience upgrading them look like fools.
Yep.
Before the info we got today I played a bit and did some bounties. Put them all toward my Truth. "Almost maxed. Can't wait!"
Aaaaaaaannnddd it was for nothing.
Admiral Woofington
Member
So Bungie is still finding ways to fuck over people with every update lol
I'd do the raid if it had matchmaking. It's a pain to coordinate doing a raid even with an in game clan as there isn't even a method of seeing who in your clan is currently online.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yup. It really is ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever.
The cynic in me wants to think that they know most people will be replaying the DLC content within a week, so this is another way to just lengthen the game.
They're clearly figuring things out on the fly. I'm guessing their primary team is working on Destiny 2 while their B team is working on sustaining content for the first game.
They have flashes of brilliance that show they are listening, like this last patch for example. So many things were fixed for the better, and things that players wanted. Now this, which looks like they forgot everything they just worked to. It's like there's no cohesive structure in what's going on during the design process of this game at bungie. It's almost baffling to me sometimes. I don't place any blame on Deej, I think Bungie as a whole has just been winging it since the launch of this game. Shooter mechanics can't be beat, but they are sorely inexperienced when it comes to the type of MMO mechanics they have been trying to incorporate (with exception of the raid).
You're raid gear isn't obsolete. It's just no longer some of the best gear in the game. And now, there shouldn't be an upgrade path because that gear is specifically for VoG. The new raid sounds like it will be a lot better at rewarding players. I have gotten duplicate gear and/or no gear for like the last 4 weeks of raiding. The new raid will detect that and reward me with gear I need instead.
As for the exotic, yeah, you are kind of correct. Or you can just buy the item again from Xur and upgrade it then dismatle your lower level one.
Also, I would imagine that the raid is level 30 and then the hard one that's out in January is level 32. So it's not like you have to rush to get all of your gear to 32 to do the raid, you can do it right at the start.
I'm not sure how I feel about this Exotic weapon exchange. On one hand, it stinks that you lost progress on a weapon. On the other hand, you are getting a better exotic item that you don't need to wait to drop. I think this is a decent compromise between leaving the exotics at level 30 and making it super easy to get a level 32 weapon.
I have no idea what you expected.
SkylineRKR
Member
Its not even a full weekend. Sunday is typically the day I have most time.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I don't understand why Xur or Eris doesn't just have a weapon modification that cost 7k glimmer and needs a shard to add bubbles to get the guns to the new cap.
I just posted the point to KingGothalian (#1 destiny streamer) and he agreed.
Xur needs to be there more than just Friday or Saturday, because for people who work weekends are fucked. They will NEVER be able to upgrade their gear now.
So either Xur stays all the time, or Bungie is just saying fuck those people.
Xur needs to be there more than just Friday or Saturday, because for people who work weekends are fucked. They will NEVER be able to upgrade their gear now.
So either Xur stays all the time, or Bungie is just saying fuck those people.
ScriptedReality
Member
Dat grind
Yes, I've played an MMO, this happens all the time. I'll give it to you that it is definitely not this quick for gear to become obsolete. I have not played one like Warframe. I still stand by my statement that if you are really getting upset by this then you truly aren't playing the game for fun. The grinding should be fun, I never understood doing something that wasn't fun. And you don't need to grind, for all anyone cares you could get all that back just playing strikes and goofing off with friends over the next couple months. It takes longer than grinding 3 characters each day to maximize your output, but then you are just turning it into a job of something you "need" to do, which isn't fun.
Edit: Just highlighting what you said. It should be fun do to it all over again! If it's not then go play something else or stop complaining. Just my opinion tho!
Destiny is best played when it's not
If the gunplay wasn't so good I would have been long gone.
The Lamonster
Member
or allow us to do business with Xur via the companion app.
I can use the auction house in the WoW app, and that thing is like 5 years old.
...Scatter...
Banned
Find a group on www.destinylfg.net or www.destinylfg.com. I can usually get a raid group in 10 minutes flat
I'm going to go with "No."
The upgrade path should just be patched in. Your current 300 now goes to 3__ with another column of bubbles and that should be it.
Making you pay on top of all that grinding is just. Awful.
They KNOW we are all hopelessly addicted to getting the new weapons. Because I have a Horn doesn't mean I don't want the Dragon's Breath.
But come on already.
PachinkoChampBruh
Member
are the gonna remove the glimmer cap
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Deej:"He's reacting the wrong way. That's the real problem here."
....I can hear him saying that.
Yeah that's a good point. They should have him stay through Sunday. If he stayed all the time they could just have the stock refresh weekly and then it's fair for everyone.
DeeJ @DeeJ_BNG · 2h 2 hours ago
@Honeymaid Sometimes facts are just repeated inaccurately. For example: You can upgrade more than one exotic per week.
lol hold on here, where do I start? Thanks for the opportunity toupgrade reset more than one exotic weapon a week, using new currency?
Who is willing, or even can, fully upgrade more than one exotic in a week anyway? What percentage of the player base is this catering to? That's the inaccuracy you're focused on? Really? I'm using a lot of question marks???
@Honeymaid Sometimes facts are just repeated inaccurately. For example: You can upgrade more than one exotic per week.
lol hold on here, where do I start? Thanks for the opportunity to
Who is willing, or even can, fully upgrade more than one exotic in a week anyway? What percentage of the player base is this catering to? That's the inaccuracy you're focused on? Really? I'm using a lot of question marks???
While I agree that Xur should be here more, I am not aware of any job that requires someone to work for 48 hours straight. You can log in and get to Xur in under 5 minutes.
PrivateWHudson
Member
They don't even need to add bubbles, just trade to xur for a gun that has the last three bubbles unleveled, but with a higher base damage.
Edit: actually, it should be the gunsmith. Xur is being used for too much, and the gs has been useless for end game stuff.
No you need to grind ON the weekend when Xur is in town.
SkylineRKR
Member
But wait. Do reset exotics start at 302 or something? That would make a reset somewhat more worthwhile. But then again, I take it you are losing your perks and leveling up to the second perk already takes days of hardcore playing.
JetBlackPanda
Member
well you know that does make sense, I guess coming from the horrible situation the game is currently in for upgrading exotics you forget what is actually reasonable.
lol, plz dont wait on companion app updates.
there is absolutely zero functionality coming to that thing.