Destiny pre-order materials leak [Up3: Box Art/Info, 360/PS3, Retailer Says Oct 6]

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That's an understandable concern, but I imagine there is still something resembling a traditional campaign, even if it requires you to be online to track your loot, etc.

That's what I'm hoping for. I have no idea what kind of business model they will go for, F2P, subscription based, pay (once) to play ?
 
That's what I'm hoping for. I have no idea what kind of business model they will go for, F2P, subscription based, pay (once) to play ?
There has to be a free to play multiplayer in the standard game, maybe there will be a subscription model for greater stat tracking, exclusive cosmetic stuff, maybe early access to DLC, but out the box, for $60, you'll be able to play the campaign. They're going to make an obscene amount of money as it is, without raping the consumer.
 
If this is a huge success I wonder if MS will be pissed. Didn't they have first refusal on this? That implies that they didn't especially like the look of it and decided to let someone else publish?
 
I do hope our character info is in the cloud.
So when i play on the 360 first and get the Durango version later on i can continue playing further with my decked and pimped out 360 character.

I would so double or triple dip it if i can do that. Not feeling to restart over again when getting the durango version. That would not be a social feature bungie starting over again.
 
R.I.P. Bungie.

Creating an MMO for old consoles, not the PC and Durango and Orbis may not even be backwards compatible

ONe of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen made by a AAA developer.

I fully expect them to have a nextgen/PC version in development (one in the same, most likely). And according to the leaks Destiny 2 will be exactly that.
 
R.I.P. Bungie.

Creating an MMO for old consoles, not the PC and Durango and Orbis may not even be backwards compatible

ONe of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen made by a AAA developer.
You've made far too many assumptions here.

Not even educated guesses, either, just arbitrary nonsense.
 
If this is a huge success I wonder if MS will be pissed. Didn't they have first refusal on this? That implies that they didn't especially like the look of it and decided to let someone else publish?

I doubt Microsoft is stupid enough to turn down Bungie's new IP. Fail or success, it will make money. I don't see why Bungie would go to Microsoft if they want a multi-platform. You really think Microsoft will fund a AAA game that will make money for Sony? Bungie probably never went to MS because going independent would have been useless. They need a publisher who would holds no allegiance to a platform.
 
I doubt Microsoft is stupid enough to turn down Bungie's new IP. Fail or success, it will make money. I don't see why Bungie would go to Microsoft if they want a multi-platform. You really think Microsoft will fund a AAA game that will make money for Sony? Bungie probably never went to MS because going independent would have been useless. They need a publisher who would holds no allegiance to a platform.

We know they are, as ms had right of refusal on bungies first project.
 
We know they are, as ms had right of refusal on bungies first project.

All I could find are gaming blogs stating their rumors as either "via [insert other gaming blog here]" or "our sources" as sources. Saying you have a source isn't what a source is. Seems like they were trying to paint a 'MS hates Bungie now' image more than anything.

To be fair, the rumour probably came from GAF. That's how these things work, isn't it?

It probably came from some blog that kept on typing articles on it, therefore making it less of a rumor. EDGE proved that works.
 
I do hope our character info is in the cloud.
So when i play on the 360 first and get the Durango version later on i can continue playing further with my decked and pimped out 360 character.

I would so double or triple dip it if i can do that. Not feeling to restart over again when getting the durango version. That would not be a social feature bungie starting over again.

The way the accounts are now set up on B.net, where you can link your XBL and PSN (and Facebook and G+) accounts to one central Bungie account suggests that this might be the case. I imagine they'd want to allow you to migrate from 360 to PS4 if you wanted to (or PS3 to Durango).

Do we actually know that? I remember the rumour, that doesn't make it fact.

It was widely reported, but obviously neither MS or Bungie would be allowed to comment about it on record.

Microsoft might just have felt it didn't fit their portfolio, they have Gears and Halo, maybe they didn't want another sci-fi shooter. They'll still make a fortune from all the copies sold on 360.
 
I fully expect them to have a nextgen/PC version in development (one in the same, most likely). And according to the leaks Destiny 2 will be exactly that.

They should rename Destiny to Destiny 2: Beta Version.

I'm interested to see what they have up their sleeve, especially in regards to multiplayer. Jump on me all you want, but I really didn't like any of the Halo campaigns I played (1-3). They were slightly more tolerable in co-op, but I found them to be a bore. The multiplayer is the thing that they need to nail.
 
Wait so this is really supposed to be an MMO? I've been having the impression that it would be a SP game with a competitive MP portion just like Halo. That worries me a bit..
 
Wait so this is really supposed to be an MMO? I've been having the impression that it would be a SP game with a competitive MP portion just like Halo. That worries me a bit..

Its thought to be more along the line of the crossing's purported "cross-player" mode - something like a hybrid of single player and co-op
 
I do like what I understand of the games concept.

Humans leaving Earth vacant, and returning to find some other race of beings to have made it their home, is something I haven't heard before in science-fiction.

I do like the concept - but that isn't it. I think the concept is more

1) mysterious object arrives on earth - accelerates development of humanity
2) Humanity colonises solar system in "golden age"
3) "mysterious enemy" wipes out human presence in the solar system other than one city on earth, of which you are an inhabitant.

From the very little we've seen it seems to be a bit more "near future" than the halo universe.
 
The first refusal rumour is nothing more than that. Sure, it was strongly suspected, given the seemingly amicable split from Microsoft, but it's by no means a fact. That Bungie continued to create two Halo games following their declaration of independence perhaps points to ODST and Reach being the parting gift, rather than first refusal on their new franchise.

If we look at the reasons for Bungie to split from Microsoft, one of them is definitely to serve a greater number of players who for whatever reason do not wish to use a Microsoft console. In this respect giving Microsoft first refusal on their first game in their new franchise serves to contradict this. What's the incentive? I'm sure the terms of their publishing relationship with Activision are more than adequate in terms of raw resources and creative freedom, so why would they need Microsoft?

Destiny seemingly launching day and date on PS3 is enough evidence to suggest that such an agreement never existed; we know why it makes no sense for Bungie to engage in such a thing, but it makes even less sense for Microsoft to turn it down.
 
I'd be surprised if Destiny was a 720 exclusive, but then Bungie never fell out with MS so it could happen. Microsofts marketing is brilliant and the game would guarantee to be a huge hit. Mass Effect being a 360 exclusive helped the series out in the long run, ,the same could be for Destiny
 
So we'll probably see Durango/Orbis at the same time as well then; possibly early 2014 - like Dragon Quest is doing on Wii/WiiU.

Can't help but feel this will be another game thats just too late in the gen but who knows; it could be great.

Releasing when people are getting stuck into GTA must be daunting though.
Would be there for a PC version if it comes.
 
Wait so this is really supposed to be an MMO? I've been having the impression that it would be a SP game with a competitive MP portion just like Halo. That worries me a bit..
The contract from 2010 states: "based on the Destiny Property, planned to be massively-multiplayer-style" but it does not mean it is a MMOFPS game. People expect it but "massively-multiplayer-style" could mean it takes elements of a MMO games. At the end, we will find out tomorrow.
 
I'd be surprised if Destiny was a 720 exclusive, but then Bungie never fell out with MS so it could happen. Microsofts marketing is brilliant and the game would guarantee to be a huge hit. Mass Effect being a 360 exclusive helped the series out in the long run, ,the same could be for Destiny

Bungie can use the microsoft marketing machine to make destiny a huge hit (as it would likely be the star of their launch lineup)- then use that brand affinity to propel it to even greater success as a multiplatform title, seems logical.

Imagine how popular halo would have become if Halo 2 or 3 went multiplatform - Id wager that that is what bungie is aiming to replicate.
 
We know they are, as ms had right of refusal on bungies first project.

That originally came from an anonymous source on Game Informer in response to someone breaking the MS/Bungie split and afaik was never confirmed.

The person who broke that original news about the split, Jacob Metcalf, wrote:

Apparently MS just wants Bungie to make Halo for the rest of their natural days, and Bungie doesn’t like how MS is constantly trying to “handle” everything they do; the way they market their games, the way they interact with their fans (basically the fact that they do appreciate their fans), and how stingie they are with the profits (comparable to the rest of the industry). So as of today they are their own independent entity. They’ll probably make Halo 4 for Microsoft, however hey are also free to create new intellectual properties for whatever system they want.

Which doesn't sound like MS had any say at all. It'll be interesting to see their relationship with MS from here on. If it's true Destiny is being released on PS3 and there is no exclusivity then MS is getting no favours. I wonder if Destiny could really hurt Halo.
 
If this is a huge success I wonder if MS will be pissed. Didn't they have first refusal on this? That implies that they didn't especially like the look of it and decided to let someone else publish?

i don't know, alot of games like skyrim, cod, borderlands etc are multi plat, but have a strong association with the XBOX brand and bring in a lot of cash for MS. They probably felt they'd be just as well off investing less for timed exclusive dlc or something
 
The contract from 2010 states: "based on the Destiny Property, planned to be massively-multiplayer-style" but it does not mean it is a MMOFPS game. People expect it but "massively-multiplayer-style" could mean it takes elements of a MMO games. At the end, we will find out tomorrow.

Have a feeling people are reading too much into that, too.

People (at least that one person I quoted who assumed way too much) see 'MMO' and their brain links immediately to MMO conventions as we know them now. What's far more likely is that Bungie have sprinkled MMO elements, such as persistence and how the world behaves on top of their new FPS formula to make some unique hybrid that can be loosely defined as massively multiplayer.

I doubt Destiny will have a subscription, and I doubt we'll see quests that ask the player to grind 10 'Fallen' pelts, or whatever.

Those seemingly perturbed at no PC announcement also need to understand just how much Bungie had to scale their studio to create Destiny. They already hired vast numbers of people to produce a Playstation 3 version, staffing up for PC development and the unique challenges that entails to match the standard that Bungie sets itself (in terms of community engagement) would've been an enormous task. Especially considering they're targeting next generation consoles as well.
 
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Have a feeling people are reading too much into that, too.

People (at least that one person I quoted who assumed way too much) see 'MMO' and their brain links immediately to MMO conventions as we know them now. What's far more likely is that Bungie have sprinkled MMO elements, such as persistence and how the world behaves on top of their new FPS formula to make some unique hybrid that can be loosely defined as massively multiplayer.

I doubt Destiny will have a subscription, and I doubt we'll see quests that ask the player to grind 10 'Fallen' pelts, or whatever.

Those seemingly perturbed at no PC announcement also need to understand just how much Bungie had to scale their studio to create Destiny. They already hired vast numbers of people to produce a Playstation 3 version, staffing up for PC development and the unique challenges that entails to match the standard that Bungie sets itself (in terms of community engagement) would've been an enormous task. Especially considering they're targeting next generation consoles as well.
Yes. I agree. People just read the words "massively-multiplayer" and compare it to MMO games.

Like I said, I expect to see elements of MMO games in Destiny. Games like "Chromehounds" and "Hybrid" do have MMO elements. I am referring to the giant over world map where people have to combine forces to conquer specific areas. Another element could be a guild system. There is plenty of great stuff in MMO games which could work in a Coop game.

Where'd you find that?
It is a GIF from a fan-made Destiny trailer.
 
Both Destiny and Watch-Dogs seems to have MMO-like gameplay elements and that's what interests the most about these games. So hyped for next-gen.
 
Both Destiny and Watch-Dogs seems to have MMO-like gameplay elements and that's what interests the most about these games. So hyped for next-gen.

Interesting about Watch Dogs, didn't know that was the case at all. More connectivity is a good thing, though, and allows for more immersive, persistent worlds.
 
I don't mind if Destiny has some sort of Demon's Soulesque "always connected" kind of online structure. I just want to be able to play the game by myself whenever I want and to jump in and out of competitive MP at will.
 
It was widely reported, but obviously neither MS or Bungie would be allowed to comment about it on record.

Microsoft might just have felt it didn't fit their portfolio, they have Gears and Halo, maybe they didn't want another sci-fi shooter. They'll still make a fortune from all the copies sold on 360.
So there's no reason to believe it was anything other than a rumour.
 
I don't mind if Destiny has some sort of Demon's Soulesque "always connected" kind of online structure. I just want to be able to play the game by myself whenever I want and to jump in and out of competitive MP at will.

Maybe both will be merged to create a seamless experience? That would certainly be interesting, and I could see something like that happening.
 
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