SkylineRKR
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Its telling that tweets such as these pop up. A game thats undeniable good from the outset doesn't need reassurance like that.
Destiny - Review Thread
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whatever will activision do?
watching that metacritic score spiral into the toilet. Feel kinda bad for Bungie. Wondering how they're going to dig themselves out of this mess. Hopefully by making this game better.
this wasn't obvious? The system has had an incredible year.
this wasn't obvious? The system has had an incredible year.
TouchMyBox
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Aren't horrible end-bosses kinda part of Bungie's charm at this point?
mrqs
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Hey, can i tell you guys a story?
Level 21 Titan here, please read. I'm Brazilian so sorry for any spelling mistake.
I've just spend my last 3 full days playing Destiny. Today i've played about 9 hours of Vanguard Strikes Playlist , Moon missions (with a friend) and stuff like that.
I'm just looting for itens as of now. There's nothing more to be made. My focus on the game right was just: Get better gear. This gear would help me with high-level strikes and... Just that (PvP stuff is balanced).
So, after hours and hours and hours of gameplay, looting and strike missions, i've dropped an LEGENDARY item.
I must remember you guys that this game is fun, but does not makes you feel awesome for looting or exploring, as i said in this post. The game DOES NOT recompensate you for being awesome on MOST of it. The way that they found to recompensate you is with: Legendary Itens.
Maybe you could buy some Vanguard gear from the few NPCs on the Tower, but as Neogaf said, you would have to do at least ~500 Strikes to get an Vanguard set. Why would you use this set? To be better at Strikes. And the loop is right there.
Back to my story: After spent many many many (so many) hours on Destiny, i found an LEGENDARY item. Wich item is that? An Hunter's arm. Hunter. After so much time, the game gives me and Hunter's Legendary item. Why?
Why would the game give me a Hunter's Legendary Item? Why? I can't trade it, sell it or anything as of now. It felt like a slap in my face. I though: "is that why i've played dozens hours of this game?". To get an item that's not of my class?
I'm sorry, but i can't do this anymore. I don't see the point on the loop factor: Strike -> Gear -> Be better at Strikes -> Gear -> Loop. I'm just outrageous.
Well, i might have lost the point here. I was just nervous. Coudn't take that level of shit on my face. Recompensate my dozens of hours with an item that's not for my class? Fuck it, it's enough for me.
Cheers.
Level 21 Titan here, please read. I'm Brazilian so sorry for any spelling mistake.
I've just spend my last 3 full days playing Destiny. Today i've played about 9 hours of Vanguard Strikes Playlist , Moon missions (with a friend) and stuff like that.
I'm just looting for itens as of now. There's nothing more to be made. My focus on the game right was just: Get better gear. This gear would help me with high-level strikes and... Just that (PvP stuff is balanced).
So, after hours and hours and hours of gameplay, looting and strike missions, i've dropped an LEGENDARY item.
I must remember you guys that this game is fun, but does not makes you feel awesome for looting or exploring, as i said in this post. The game DOES NOT recompensate you for being awesome on MOST of it. The way that they found to recompensate you is with: Legendary Itens.
Maybe you could buy some Vanguard gear from the few NPCs on the Tower, but as Neogaf said, you would have to do at least ~500 Strikes to get an Vanguard set. Why would you use this set? To be better at Strikes. And the loop is right there.
Back to my story: After spent many many many (so many) hours on Destiny, i found an LEGENDARY item. Wich item is that? An Hunter's arm. Hunter. After so much time, the game gives me and Hunter's Legendary item. Why?
Why would the game give me a Hunter's Legendary Item? Why? I can't trade it, sell it or anything as of now. It felt like a slap in my face. I though: "is that why i've played dozens hours of this game?". To get an item that's not of my class?
I'm sorry, but i can't do this anymore. I don't see the point on the loop factor: Strike -> Gear -> Be better at Strikes -> Gear -> Loop. I'm just outrageous.
Well, i might have lost the point here. I was just nervous. Coudn't take that level of shit on my face. Recompensate my dozens of hours with an item that's not for my class? Fuck it, it's enough for me.
Cheers.
Zombie James
Banned
I don't think this content would change any of the criticisms people have.
Netherscourge
Banned
Hellgate: London had deeper gameplay and better replay value than Destiny has.
No, I am not drunk. It is fact.
No, I am not drunk. It is fact.
A fair amount of reviewers, including Polygon, have said they plan to play the coming events and will consider updating their reviews and scores if warranted.
Bungie's campaign to delay reviews for its nearly-week-old, big-budget event release has looked and continues to look desperate.
Bungie's campaign to delay reviews for its nearly-week-old, big-budget event release has looked and continues to look desperate.
Destiny is fun. So it automatically beats Shitgate.
dragonelite
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I dont fucking get it. Why tweet that, one is just an exotic gear vendor and the other is for the hardcore pvers given how little class dynamic there it will probably be moon strike times 3 with the amount of trash mods thrown at you.
Just joking on the raid part
Damage control? Come on, hey Mario Kart 8 DLC is coming in May 2015, better hold on that review!
Also the gameplay fundamentals are there, it's not going to magically change. They couldn't come up with interesting mission objectives during the 15 hours campaign, they saved all the best stuff for later? Yeah right!
TatteredHat
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That tweet is both hilarious and sad.
It's not entire zones as far as I know. The raid opens permanently, Salvage and Iron Banner are special PvP playlists, and the other one is supposedly remixed/super-hard versions of story missions with extra rewards.
A ton of terrible personality and horrible, unfunny characters like Tiny Tina.
we.are.the.armada
Member
This. I was literally thinking - omg this place is amazing, is this a new area?! Hey this mission boss is cool, I can't wait for the strike and final boss... wait uh... it's over?
SkylineRKR
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The Co-op of Destiny feels very, very basic in fact. Gears of War did it better (and did the set pieces and spawns better too).
I think its the same as Halo 3's co-op. Its just that Destiny has special co-op driven missions and Halo 3 didn't. Halo had better set pieces though.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Yeah, that's happening for a lot of people. I think it's Bungie's way of encouraging people to make alts, but frankly it's just obnoxious.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Average consensus?? It's split right down the middle as a consensus here.
So they expected reviewers to wait for weeks after the game is released to review it? I understand that they tried to silence reviewers with the 'social" bullshit to hide disappointing scores, but this is borderline delusional.
They should have launched the game with all the content and sent out review copies a week or so before release, because none of the social stuff even matters as the game is barely social at all and more social games have been pre-release-reviewed fairly before.
Bolts-n-Rays1109
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ArkkAngel007
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It wouldn't, and I don't see where the goal posts would end if they kept waiting. No, you need to wait for next month's events. Hey, we have a patch coming up, so hold back until then. Hey, have you heard about our DLC?
I expect great support during the life of the game, but right now the game is what it is, and none of the things listed by Canland would write off the problems stated within most of the reviews.
Perfect example of what I said earlier.
Poodlestrike
Banned
They've made the investment, and the games sold like mad. I could see the reviews screwing up Bungie's plans for the franchise, but the games are still gonna get made.
Who knows, maybe Destiny 2 will be a kart racer.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Fine, we'll judge Destiny by that when the time comes. Today it's not though.
AC1 was in the same boat and deserved the shit it got then and still does now.
vs. walking vending machines, and some dude whose name is "the queen's brother".
this^... please.
Tidus_Great
Banned
Yep, you judge a game on the content it has right out of the box. day 1 patch is the only exception imo. Have your game ready or don't release it. and these damn reviewers really defend these shady practices lol
Interesting to see all the views come in both from the media and gamers. I cancelled my pre order after the beta. I've gamed since the Speccy and NES days and I know what grabs me, something just felt off with Destiny, it missed something, hard to pinpoint really, wasn't all bad and totally appreciate the beta is not a true reflection of the final game so I will pick it up once the dust has settled, but having to be choosy about games now and it's about number 5 on my list. Hope your all enjoying it though and those that aren't, it just as well lots of hopefully great games are out in the next few months.
Don't charge $60 and more for 'just getting started' then.
Goodacre0081
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why do people keep throwing in big DLC updates with the continuous events that Destiny will have into the same bucket?
SkylineRKR
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Its rather obvious that the review delay was a ploy. They took their pre-orders and they gained their cash back. But I wonder how big the drop will be now that the cats out of the bag.
gamechanger87
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I think they will significantly derail Activision's plan. They were hoping to milk DLC for years then roll out a sequel. I don't think all that many people are going to be willing to bite on the DLC in the next few months considering how stacked they are.
shadowstar
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I didn't buy Destiny and don't plan to, but it drives me nuts that critics are reviewing a game like this so early. First week reviews of online games like Diablo or MMOs are ridiculous regardless if they're full of praise or scorn. Then you watch the video reviews and you see they reviewer isn't even tackling end game content, but discussing it as if they're experts (Gamespot's Diablo 3 and RoS reviews come to mind). I'm sure they read threads on forums like this and just rephrase what they read.
Destiny gameplay is actually good. Irs the content that's questionable
Making comparisons to WD is hilarious. Destiny was at least polished
No warthogs. No personality. Hell, even the announcer sounds like he'd rather be in a different game.
Alexanders Ghost
Banned
Holy shit. David is delusional. He's responsible for some incredible UI's. But he's crazy if he actually thinks reviewers should have waited any longer.
I wonder if Bungie employees actually feel this way or if they're just doing damage control.
MightyHedgehog
Member
No way. It's already making its money. I can see it being one of those games that might just succeed beyond what it seems to deserve (in its current state), despite the less than stellar reception it may have. The mainstream player has never been nearly as demanding or expectant as the average pro-reviewer or NeoGAF member. That's not a knock on them, just an observation of what generally seems to be the case across media.
What the hell at some of these scores...
It really does seem like some people were expecting a vastly different game.
I suppose they could of come up with more creative "scan this thing" type missions, but really I don't know what people expect, 99% of any game is "go here, touch this, activate next phase" like are they supposed to reinvent the wheel?
You are a guardian. Guarding a ghost. He hacks into things. I don't need much more motivation than that if the gameplay is good, and the gameplay is great. The levels are awesome to explore. The loot addiction is real.
It really does seem like some people were expecting a vastly different game.
I suppose they could of come up with more creative "scan this thing" type missions, but really I don't know what people expect, 99% of any game is "go here, touch this, activate next phase" like are they supposed to reinvent the wheel?
You are a guardian. Guarding a ghost. He hacks into things. I don't need much more motivation than that if the gameplay is good, and the gameplay is great. The levels are awesome to explore. The loot addiction is real.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I would love to be a fly on Bobby's wall right now.
Activision always had huge (arguably ridiculous) expectations for this, a reception like this can certainly kill legs and stunt growth; regardless of whatever they shipped to retailers day one.
ArkkAngel007
Member
But it's really cool items. Seriously, those are some lovely exotics.
But yeah, there's nothing about him or the events that would make this a 75 metacritic to an 85. The Raid will be cool, but it's just one part of the game.
Edit: Destiny as a franchise should be fine. I like what they are trying to go for, and there's a ton of potential to that.
DeleteMyAccountThankyou
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Please understand?
gamechanger87
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Actually the really negative reviewers have already finished the available content and leveled up. You shouldn't be able to finish an MMO in this amount of time, especially one that gives you no incentive to keep replaying the endgame. That is why they are so down on it. The really high reviews are from the people whom haven't.
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