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Deus Ex: The Fall (PC) |OT| iNever Asked For This
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Night_Trekker
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The filter should be there.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Not likely. I'll have to wait with the rest of the plebeians.
d00d3n
Member
Actually, after studying the key mappings, it seems the pc version will not have jumping after all. Jump button is replaced with context sensitive cover button on both 360 controller and keyboard mappings. Deus Ex thief(2014)-ified, now on PC too! I wonder if this will affect the real Human Revolution sequel also ... Would probably save them money on playtesting and the iOS and android $ is nice down the line. The Fall was unexpectedly good, but Eidos please don't gimp PC games like this
Shrike Alvaron
Member
A doubt a lack of jump in this PC port means any more DX games won't have jump. The levels were designed with a lack of jump in mind due to the control constraints of touch screens, so just adding jump back in would be fairly useless at the least, and complete break the maps at the worst.
grosvenor_92
Member
I'm kind of interested in trying it since I loved HR so I'll wait for fellow gaffers opinions before making a decision
dr_rus
Member
Yes.
Yes, I travel often. But that's not the point - I refuse to pay any money for limitations of any kind. This is the real problem.
Providing local pricing and building a regional locking mechanics are Valve's doing.
Their inability to give us an option of buying an unlocked version for US/EU prices is Valve's problem.
Publishers are publishers. I expect nothing but bad decisions from them. Valve should be better than this.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
So since I've played none of these yet which would be a good DE game to start with? I mostly went ahead and got this since it came with the original and I already have HR DC.
Quadraphonic
Member
Those who are in Russia that leave the country to travel can afford to travel often.
Last time I visited Russia, I decided to pop onto Steam. The prices were downright bonkers low, but I couldn't buy it.
What Steam needs is an authorized-traveller account or something, where if you've kept your account for so long, and established residency in a few countries, where you buy it won't matter.
The Nature Roy
Member
I thought it was pretty fun -- it was a decent approximation of the real deal and it made some flights go faster for me. That said, I'm thinking it might feel pretty shallow on PC. It won't be like another 'Missing Link' or anything.
No microtransctions, they took them out and rebalanced the in game economy.
Lord British
Member
Could you elaborate on the community fixes for Director's Cut?
I played it on IOS and it's alright. I didn't buy any microtransactions and thought it was pretty easy anyway. Shooting anything was a huge problem due to the controls, good thing I noticed that early during the tutorials. I played it just like I played HR however, sneaking around invisible, and that worked fine. It's not a twitch game, there are many areas to plan ahead. So, the basic gameplay is familiar and fun if you played the earlier games, the story is trash however, so you're not missing anything important either.
You start playing as a bad guy (the ones doing the raid in the lab during the intro to HR), then find out you're being lied to and fight against them.
Agent Gibbs
Member
considering the cost (or lack thereof) i will purchase this for two reasons
1. i love Deus Ex
2. maybe it will encourage SE to keep the brand going and not go crazy with mobile versions
1. i love Deus Ex
2. maybe it will encourage SE to keep the brand going and not go crazy with mobile versions
STEALTH reason: Slim hope it gets ported to a portable like Vita or 3DS
Here's a few links that explain how to fix some of the stuttering issues some people experience.
Low framerate fixes
Stuttering fixes
Erratic mouse pointer fixes
Lord British
Member
dr_rus
Member
Most of these were fixed in a new Geforce driver a month or so ago anyway.Thank you.
DXHRDC had problems because they didn't update the driver profile for DXHR to include DXHRDC in it. That's what you get when a game is low profile and isn't in TWIMTBP program.
Laurentius
Member
Laurentius
Member
So I heard some whisperings that jumping was added to the PC port? Can anyone confirm or deny?
phantomspiker
Member
You can preload the game now.
2.2GB download.
2.2GB download.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Valve is still facilitating it. Both need to get flack in equal measure.
Haha you haven't seen the teaser for it? A lot of fans thought it would be a full DX4, until it got unveiled as a mobile games. I've never seen so many "Deus Ex: The Fail" posts in my life. Still curious though, but only if it gets a digital PSN release (most likely not going to happen, I guess).
With that explanation in mind, I feel like they should be a bit more open about the reasoning to those affected and also perhaps come up with a system that can allow those guys to access an unlock to the run restriction if they happen to move out of that territory, although how you actually do that is the big problem
If you don't know already, you should check this out towards the bottom of the page, where they discuss "Deus Ex Universe" or rather their commitment to create multifaceted sets of story content that also includes new game on PC / mobile / console / comics/ etc etc...... ie expect the same confusion more often, and for them to possible milk it...
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Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
Thoughts from having played a little over an hour of the game:
Non-spoiler commentary:
They didn't upgrade the texture resolution from the mobile version. Looks really bad in many parts of the game. There are other buggy aspects of this port, like looking around being jumpy, which is particularly jarring and frustrating.
This game really needed to have been developed for PC first, with a focus on making the content and narrative as strong as both the main game and The Missing Link.
On the bright side, Steam trading cards = a bit of free pocket change.
Spoiler commentary:
Non-spoiler commentary:
They didn't upgrade the texture resolution from the mobile version. Looks really bad in many parts of the game. There are other buggy aspects of this port, like looking around being jumpy, which is particularly jarring and frustrating.
This game really needed to have been developed for PC first, with a focus on making the content and narrative as strong as both the main game and The Missing Link.
On the bright side, Steam trading cards = a bit of free pocket change.
Spoiler commentary:
I've only played the tutorial mission so far, but I'm disappointed with how much was streamlined vs. how the tutorial mission's events were portrayed in Icarus Effect. For example, the section with Saxon dealing with the guards and the elevator, with Federova coming to the rescue, is completely missing in this game. Stuff like this bugs the hell out of me because Icarus Effect had so much content that would've made for good gameplay, but it seems absolutely wasted on a mobile-focused title.
Fixed2BeBroken
Member
sweet, this game comes with deus ex. I mean I already own it on physical format, but it's nice to have on steam.
i might purchase Invisible war that way I have the whole series in one place and since it's a cheap game. and yes, I actually liked invisible wars (puts on flame suit)
I'm getting some super hardcore stuttering whenever my back is to any surface and I move turn the corner while keeping my back to that surface. (Basically the hold A option). wtf....
i might purchase Invisible war that way I have the whole series in one place and since it's a cheap game. and yes, I actually liked invisible wars (puts on flame suit)
I'm getting some super hardcore stuttering whenever my back is to any surface and I move turn the corner while keeping my back to that surface. (Basically the hold A option). wtf....
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Dreadful port: pretty sure there's mouse acceleration and no option to turn off, sound bugs that override some dialogue and in-game sounds (gunshots, footsteps, etc) to mute while background music plays (turning down music to 0 does nothing), weird mouse stuttering at random points almost like what you see when a multiplayer game is lagging hard.
I can hack not having graphics upgraded. I can kinda hack the game design being restricted to what was on iOS (eg: no jump, no iron sights, overall limited in depth and control compared to Human Revolution), but these technical issues are unacceptable.
I can hack not having graphics upgraded. I can kinda hack the game design being restricted to what was on iOS (eg: no jump, no iron sights, overall limited in depth and control compared to Human Revolution), but these technical issues are unacceptable.
What a shame.
Laurentius
Member
Thanks, I was almost considering picking this up. Sounds like it would be just a waste of time though.
EDIT: I've also read that there's no inventory system AND you can access a store at all times? Wow...
The Steam reviews page are also all confirming that it's a horrid port on top of a mediocre game. Why in the world did they release this EARLY? That makes me think they definitely were just planning to send it out to die, and likely have few plans for patching the bugs.
phantomspiker
Member
Don't forget that you can't drag bodies or interact with them in any way. They actually disappear after a couple of seconds.
bobawesome
Member
Pretty disappointing stuff to hear. I guess I'll just stick with the iPad version for now...
May buy once it's a dollar.
May buy once it's a dollar.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Well look: ideally they'd have gone to the game's template, overhauled the engine (which is Unity) to the Human Revolution engine (dated as it is), and enhanced the game mechanics, AI, depth of interactivity and so on to be more like a stand-alone Missing Link. It would have been a big job as a copy/paste would just break the game, but that would be ideal.
What instead they've done is just direct port the game. Yes, it's annoying, because it means you get a stripped down version of Deus Ex lacking in interactive depth, and it doesn't feel right with a keyboard, but it does work and in their defence they haven't advertised it as anything but a port. It's pretty much "Did you not play this? Well, now you can", and I fit that category.
But technical issues are where I draw the line. If cutscene and radio dialogue disappears in half a second or cuts out instantly I'm missing chunks of story. If the mouse aiming and movement is occasionally stuttering I'm struggling to play an already basic game. These are game breaking bugs and thus nobody should spend a cent (assuming you still want what you're getting) until they're fixed.
EDIT: Like I get that it cops shit for being super watered down and limited, but I guess it doesn't bother me any more than Peace Walker in the MGS HD Collection lacking the interactive depth of MGS3. They're both portable ports, gameplay restrictions. Total remake/overhaul would be nice, but whatever. I just want a functional game.
What instead they've done is just direct port the game. Yes, it's annoying, because it means you get a stripped down version of Deus Ex lacking in interactive depth, and it doesn't feel right with a keyboard, but it does work and in their defence they haven't advertised it as anything but a port. It's pretty much "Did you not play this? Well, now you can", and I fit that category.
But technical issues are where I draw the line. If cutscene and radio dialogue disappears in half a second or cuts out instantly I'm missing chunks of story. If the mouse aiming and movement is occasionally stuttering I'm struggling to play an already basic game. These are game breaking bugs and thus nobody should spend a cent (assuming you still want what you're getting) until they're fixed.
EDIT: Like I get that it cops shit for being super watered down and limited, but I guess it doesn't bother me any more than Peace Walker in the MGS HD Collection lacking the interactive depth of MGS3. They're both portable ports, gameplay restrictions. Total remake/overhaul would be nice, but whatever. I just want a functional game.
Glittering Crux
Banned
Steam should refund people for this garbage.
It has so many technical issues. The movement speed upgrade is causing my game to lag.
It has so many technical issues. The movement speed upgrade is causing my game to lag.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Jesus, I was kinda looking forward to this actually :S
