oof, oh well guess ill level one on normal to get familair with his shit
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Diablo III: Reaper of Souls |OT3| Tyrael Looted: {[El'druin]}
- Thread starter IceMarker
- Start date
oof, oh well guess ill level one on normal to get familair with his shit
It's been known literally since the official unveiling of the necro.
$15 is what I was expecting, so no surprise there. Will wait for feedback on the necro and the new content before considering buying it.
Ask me anything. I played the Necro in the Beta it seems very unlikely that there will be major changes to it from that.
I was only comfortable playing the class a couple different ways, and didn't get to try all the sets. I played it as a pet class most often. The set that makes all your skeletons attack at like 400% damage is hilarious and fun. There is a skill that can command them to focus fire a target (and they will sort of jump over there very quickly) so that's nice. You can also res enemies you've killed and get them to fight for you for a bit. Everything caps at 10 though which is lame. So 10 skeletons and 10 res'd enemies. It was fun, if a bit mindless. Not sure how useful the pet spec would be in a group setting, especially since they are a bi all over the place. But as solo it was fun.
I also played as a bit of a caster class. A lot of the spells can use a % of your own HP instead of Essense cost (goes up quite steeply for some spells like 30-40%). You can turn that around with some of the passives and generate essence or increase your damage at low health. I had trouble sustaining the combos that I found, mostly because I couldn't find the necessary monster density most of the time.
Corpse explosion is hilariously fun, but tough to make good for obvious reasons. There are runes for it that make the corpses move around or suck in enemies and those help, but they aren't the most damage.
Overall, I really enjoyed the class and would love to play it again (though probably solo), but despite they having integrated the class into the D3 campaign (new cutscenes and voice work!), no one cares about the campaign. I am on the fence at this price.
Cracklox
Member
I hope I understand the question, but here goes
Those numbers can be a nice gauge while leveling but once you get to 70 and start collecting sets, and other items that give a bunch of crazy multipliers, sheet DPS especially doesn't start to mean a lot. Most of the massive set bonuses don't get calculated for example. Also things like elemental damage isn't calculated on the sheet, and most builds should have around 30%+ there, plus a multitude of other things they may only kick in after something else activates it. Toughness is probably a more reliable number when it come to bigger is better, but there are things there as well that don't affect is as well. For example using the old Unity ring trick which gives 50% damage reduction doesn't show. There's other things there that I can't think of right now as well, but it's probably slightly more reliable then the DPS number
As for 2h vs DW Barb, some one asked something similar not too far back. Basically for leveling its whatever works really. I prefer DW for better AS, but you can make pretty quick work either way. Its when you get to 70 and start putting sets together, is where you'll need to consider DW and 2h. One of the sets (Might of the Earth) is basically always used with a 2 hander and another (Wastes) is pretty much always DW. The other two probably aren't quite as strong and I haven't played much.
Hope that helps
RandomSeed
Member
Thanks for that, it helps. I just found another legendary 2h weapon (Scourge), so I'll be using that. I'll have to pay more attention to things when I hit level 70, as you wrote, and I'll just focus on playing for now. Even with skills...there are so many powerful abilities, that anything seems to work.
Thank you for the impressions. Appreciated. I'll probably buy it whenever the next cool content patch comes out.
uncredited male
Member
I went to buy Necro but we can't yet. I also thought about the digital deluxe upgrade but then I came to my senses.
Will fool around with Necro in nonseason. If it is really sucking I will give the Sader a full season finally.
Will fool around with Necro in nonseason. If it is really sucking I will give the Sader a full season finally.
Yeah I think I'm in the same boat. The class is fun, but the game REALLY needs some new content in it. Adding a few challenge rifts and stuff doesn't cut it. D3 Expansion 2 or something else more substantial for ALL the classes would make it feel more worthwhile.
Most of the new areas in this are just sewn together parts of old levels (except the moors and firstborn temple, those are all new). So running through the barracks and out a door into the pandemonium battlefield is fun a bit, but not that new.
RandomSeed
Member
Expert really is what you'd expect out of normal mode. Barb is level 50+, and no deaths yet. It's still very fun, and at least now I'm using multiple skills each fight. Wizard was mostly holding down the left mouse button.
a bit mindless? Real pet builds need to be full mindless, I literally want the game to play itself, I want to go make a drink and come back and be alive and shit be dead.
Im not even joking, and no game will give me that
Still hyped tho, even if peeps here kinda killed my buzz when they said the pet set is actually a skeleton mage set, and you dont do much petting, you just spam skeleton mages
did that change?
Dog Problems
Banned
a bit mindless? Real pet builds need to be full mindless, I literally want the game to play itself, I want to go make a drink and come back and be alive and shit be dead.
Im not even joking, and no game will give me that
Anarchy Online had pet classes like that back when I played it. It was nice going afk and coming back to a level gained.
not even joking, kinda want to download that now lol. Its even on steam and f2p, looks like ass but its old so thats expected I guess.
a bit mindless? Real pet builds need to be full mindless, I literally want the game to play itself, I want to go make a drink and come back and be alive and shit be dead.
Im not even joking, and no game will give me that
Still hyped tho, even if peeps here kinda killed my buzz when they said the pet set is actually a skeleton mage set, and you dont do much petting, you just spam skeleton mages
did that change?
The armor set is for the skeleton mages, but there is also 1H Scythe and Shield set that gives your skeletons a boost if I am remembering correctly. The shield looks like a bone shield and the scythe also has bones on it. The names are dumb and hard to remember like everything in Diablo lore, lol. Also the mage set boosts all your minions for each mage you have active or something like that. The mages will do more damage simply because they are better units but it buffs everything for each one you cast (up to 10 annoyingly cause everything seems capped at 10).
Anyhow the 2 set bonus for that weapon set made it so that your ability which focuses the skeletons on one target would be automatically cast on a nearby unit after the original target died. Which is wonderful by itself, but is ALSO increases the damage of ALL your minions by like 400% or something. Leading to the skeletons jumping around the screen doing pretty much what you want. Sadly they won't go too far though leading to the aforementioned issues of monsters not being clumped up enough for corpse explosions to be great. Useable but not great.
I heartily recommend that set if you like the pet stuff. It was my favorite part of playing it.
Ah I went and found a link to a thing that has them. Check out the armor set and the weapons set here: Pet Build That build is kinda not great, but it lets you see what I'm talking about.
Rhykker giving his thoughts on the Necro DLC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5XAZ4e2xdo
Basically: don't just blindly buy the thing, read/watch reviews and what other players say, don't necessarily take my word for it, different people value things different ways. Also he's almost touching near the end, where he becomes introspective and seems to express remorse at maybe not hammering on some of the balancing issues and exploits during the beta. He feels that the Necro, in its current state, could have been amazing, but he's just okay (as in, on par with the other classes, which all have about 2 viable endgame builds), and he wonders if it's not partly his fault. Dang.
[FAKE EDIT] For him personally though, the thing is worth the asking price in terms of hours of entertainment per dollar ratio.
Basically: don't just blindly buy the thing, read/watch reviews and what other players say, don't necessarily take my word for it, different people value things different ways. Also he's almost touching near the end, where he becomes introspective and seems to express remorse at maybe not hammering on some of the balancing issues and exploits during the beta. He feels that the Necro, in its current state, could have been amazing, but he's just okay (as in, on par with the other classes, which all have about 2 viable endgame builds), and he wonders if it's not partly his fault. Dang.
[FAKE EDIT] For him personally though, the thing is worth the asking price in terms of hours of entertainment per dollar ratio.
why is he spending 5 minutes explaining how reviews work and how spending money works? Such a weird video.
uncredited male
Member
it adds 2 stash tabs and 2 character slots but thats about it, the rest is part of the free patch (challenge rifts and new zones and whatnot)
Yeah, $15 was around what I was expecting.
But that said, I'm probably gonna wait and see how things shake out before I go and buy it.
cheermancy
Member
Haven't played Diablo III in awhile but I'll give this a shot regardless.
Human Trashcan
Banned
lol I'm in the same boat because I've only been playing seasonal whenever I do play, and when the season is over I don't even bother logging in to clear the stash. Usually I just delete the characters.
Cracklox
Member
I could help. Shoot me a psn on lox769. I'm playing some dishonored 2 right now but sure I could jump on for a bit, if you're talking any time in the next few hours
DryvBy
Member
I'm working from home today and it's been slow this week lol. Thanks!
Just bothered to check, you're still rank 287 on the Seasonal Monk GR leaderboard.
EDIT: Just did some updating/cleanup of the GAF Clan *and* Community MOTDs and pinned news posts. Speaking of which, Raticus your D3 spreadsheet is SUPER depreciated. Also, some fun facts, the person in the clan that's been the longest offline, is Chocobro with almost a year under their belt at 354 days. We currently sit at 147 out of 150 slots available in the clan.
Wow, that high? I'm impressed with lol, I've only dropped like 150 ranks since I stopped
I just finished cleaning up the OT and updating it with some more relevant information due to the sheer amount of changes since the thread was created. I figure since the RotN pack is the biggest fundamental change Diablo III has had in quite some time, we will be seeing more newer and returning players joining in on the fun. For those of you who are brand new, or those of you returning to Diablo III after having left for months/years, Reddit has an absolutely fantastic wiki page describing in brief all the changes that have come to the game since release back in 2012 with links to all the full patch notes. For those of you on console, Yoshichan made a Console OT a while back that can be found here.
I'm so excited to see this game
I'm so excited to see this game
rise from the dead!
RandomSeed
Member
Beat the main game. It felt short, and featured some bland, recycled​ environments. I haven't read up on the game (since release), or others opinions on it, but the levels are truly, embarrassingly​ bad. 15 min into Reaper and the lighting and environmental detail is WAY better. Story is some WOW cheese, with betrayals​ left and right, and their take on foreshadowing is to beat you over the head with it. I love Diablo and really enjoyed WOW, but the story/feel/characters of this game definitely moved over to the WOW side of things.
Gameplay is butter on the positive side. My Barb ripped the forces of hell a new one from start to finish, and didn't die once. It honestly felt like I was styling on chumps the entire time...leap attack, frenzy/cleave, slam, charge through them, war cry, repeat. So smooth.
Gameplay is butter on the positive side. My Barb ripped the forces of hell a new one from start to finish, and didn't die once. It honestly felt like I was styling on chumps the entire time...leap attack, frenzy/cleave, slam, charge through them, war cry, repeat. So smooth.
Now get into Adventure mode once you're done with Act V and enjoy the smooth gameplay without the campaign annoyances and turn the difficulty up until it gets actually challenging(Torment difficulties is where it's at). You're going to have fun with some of the armor sets. Their bonus change a whole lot of things.
RandomSeed
Member
I was just screwing around in adventure mode, and ended up finding my first pet, That Which Must Not be Named. LOL. I thought that pets were so WOW, and no way was I going to use one in this game...but then that little sucker went and looted gold for me?!? Uhh, yes please.
RandomSeed
Member
Guess I won't be finishing up the last chapter of season 10 for the armor reward. Torment 2 is pretty easy right now (beat Diablo on T2), but I almost got carpal tunnel finishing up a Nephalem Rift IV, and I suffered my first death in the game there. The boss had 968 million health.
Typically the 4-piece bonus of a 6-piece set and a couple decent Legendary items are enough to break Chapter 4 of the Season and Greater Rift 20. Have you tried looking up builds online for your class as a general guide? They've helped me through some tougher parts of the game.
RandomSeed
Member
Yeah. I should have said that I won't be finishing it due to the fact that (I think) the season ends today. I picked up the game too late in the season, and now there isn't enough time to improve my damage enough and do all the chapter iv events.
Ah well. Adventure mode in general seems really fun.Try this: https://www.icy-veins.com/d3/barbarian-leveling-and-fresh-70-guide-patch-2-5-season-10
I always found the "Fresh level 70" guides on there to be very helpful. The Wizard one let me do T6 or T7 with bad gear.
Yeah. I should have said that I won't be finishing it due to the fact that (I think) the season ends today. I picked up the game too late in the season, and now there isn't enough time to improve my damage enough and do all the chapter iv events.
IMO Best change to the entire Diablo formula since the series inception, really. If Diablo II had it's own Adventure Mode back in the day I'd easily put in another 1,000 hours in that game.
Yeah, that sheet's pretty much retired. No need to link to it any more. I was only really using it as a way to track who was playing (via a script to check kill counts from the profiles via the Blizzard API) to help with figuring out who to boot when new people wanted in. Once Blizzard added that last login stat in the clan roster, we didn't need it any more. Player notes in the roster have the "who's who" aspect covered.
RandomSeed
Member
Thanks, that looks good. It'll be interesting trying out a tested build, since I've been just doing my own thing (most fun skills) the entire time.
I'm trying to figure out if it's even worth doing the campaign again with alternate characters. I guess you'd miss quest rewards (exp and gear), but you can take on bounties, so that would probably even things out at the least.
There's absolutely no point in doing the campaign more than once(unless some achievements are attached to it). You get more XP and gear by doing adventure mode.
That reminds me, I need to update or do some digging on some of our newer clan members who don't have a yellow page next to their name yet. Will do probably after I finish organizing my non-season stash.
RandomSeed
Member
Dude. I just changed my build to the first one listed under the season 10 Barb gear (I have 4 pieces of Raekor), and destroyed GR20 solo without even trying on a quick test run. Are you kidding me? I'm not sure if I like the style of play, but the damage is so much better it's not even funny.
Dreams-Visions
Member
So what are we most looking forward to next week? I'm looking forward to 2 stash tabs >___>