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[Radical_3d]

As a right winger often flabbergasted on how right wing this forum is I’m curious. I know that this is not representative of most of gamers but I think that given the recent turmoil around Ubisoft and its failing strategy and finances it’ll be interesting to know what our side of gaming thinks about it.

Personally I’m not happy to play a game where a flimsy woman knocks out trained soldiers with helmet. Even the game acknowledges this and later on gives her a tasser. But I’m ok with the uglification of the actress. I’m not 20 anymore and I don’t need hot girls in my games. But I do respect people who want what I already had in my non woke 90s.

But the reasons why I’m not interested in Outlaws are none of the above. It’s the same Ubisoft game all over again. It’s repetitive. Uninspired. Not original. The disk in the box has no value. It has DLCs programmed since before launch. It’s modern gaming in a nutshell and while I think is the best representation of the SW universe on a videogame that’s not enough to endure a snooze fest. So, what do you think?

 

[ergem]

go woke, go broke

 

[GHG]

We passed on it because we're victorious incels.

 

[MMaRsu]

No because it was mediocre and Ubisoft games go on sale within months for 50% off

 

[Fake]

I guess is because its a shit game.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Game looks pretty, but upon watching some gameplay I came to the conclusion that it plays like shit so I skipped on it.

The MC being ugly is a factor, sure, but not the reason.

 

[diffusionx]

I would’ve bought it if it was a Han Solo game like it clearly was meant to be.

 

[StueyDuck]

Can't it be both

Why do we pretend that one doesn't influence the other

 

[MikeM]

Nope. I passed on it because Star Wars is up there with Indiana Jones as an IP for old people. Nothing about it is remotely interesting to me.

 

[Kotaro]

because it's Ubiwoke

 

[Complistic]

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[RCX]

I passed because its Star Wars and its Ubi.

Used to love the franchise but Disney killed it for me. Used to like Ubi games but AC Syndicate killed that for me too.

 

[Jaybe]

Star Wars is a dead IP

 

[Mr Moose]

Ugly ass chin and it looked a bit shit. It's got movie punches in it.

 

[Punished Miku]

Nope. I'm still not even convinced it is woke outside of an ugly character model.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Shit game

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

If it were just some cookie cutter Ubisoft open world slop, I would’ve silently ignored it and moved on.

Because of the uglified heroine cold cocking storm troopers unconscious with her bare hands, I made fun of it and moved on.

 

[InterMusketeer]

I don't buy Ubi games because they mostly suck, even the highly regarded ones. I also refuse to use their shitty launcher on PC. 'Woke' doesn't help either. I don't need ideologically driven messaging in my entertainment.

 

[Salz01]

I passed on it because of ugly character and it looks boring.

 

[GC_DALBEN]

All ubisoft games feel the same, they need to change something.

 

[Radical_3d]

Can't it be both

Why do we pretend that one doesn't influence the other

One are aesthetic and other is game design. It doesn’t mix into each other but they certainly add to the experience together. You can have an ugly game that is glorious, like Deadly Premonition. And you can have a beautiful made game that is boring, like almost every AAA game since 2013. But one has to weight more in your decision making.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Will try it later.

Full priced games I do only if I think its special.

 

[Schmendrick]

I don't know what was supposed to be woke about that game but I lost all interest the moment I saw "Ubisoft". I can't stand their game design, especially when it comes to open worlds.

 

[Herbspiceguy]

I don't buy Ubisoft games, as they never appealed to me, even in the early days.

 

[Laptop1991]

It just wasn't a game worth the money Ubisoft wanted for it, ie, not very good, first option.

 

[pudel]

There came too many things together. For me it wasnt just because of one single thing.....but all things together.

 

[Northeastmonk]

Remember that scene in the New Hope where Luke looks out and sees the two suns setting? The music starts to play, almost foreboding in many different ways.

This game has no appeal to it at all. You could have called it something else and built an entire fan base off of it. I wouldn’t even bad mouth it, but it doesn’t have anything I like about Star Wars. Maybe the enemies? That’s not enough for me.

 

[winjer]

There are several reasons for this game's failure.
The woke part is just one among several, but it's not even the most important.

Most people are tired of the Ubisoft open world formula.
The game had many bugs.
Gameplay was boring and had a ton of issues.
AI was broken.
Graphics were good, but character models and animations were jank.
The Star Wars brand no longer has the same weight.
It didn't release on Steam.

 

[Draugoth]

Only half of the issues, it's a painful generic open world game, there's no problem at being 'woke' as long as it's done right, just see Baldur's gate 3

 

[V1LÆM]

.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Ah screw it, i voted because it's woke. As a straight white male gamer in 2024 i'm an incel, a talentless freak, homophob, racist and misogyn anyways.

 

[Auto_aim1]

I would have bought it if it was a good game. I was thirsty. It looked crap and the bad reviews were icing on the cake.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

So, what do you think?

It didn't bomb because it was woke, but because it was shit. Lowest possible effort on the part of Ubisoft, it really looks like everyone was busy making AC, so interns got put on it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I don't like the Star Wars franchise. So it was an easy pass regardless of it being Woke or not.

 

[Eesha]

Because is an Open World game, once you played one, you played them all.

 

[ssringo]

It's a Ubisoft game. Same shit, different skin.

Unless it's not. In which case I'll never know because my perception of Ubisoft is: same shit, different skin.

 

[Topher]

No, I used Ubisoft+ to play it and I just lost interest very quickly. I'm typically one who enjoys Ubisoft games, but this one didn't do much for me.

 

[Putonahappyface]

I initially gave the game a pass because Ubisoft games are notoriously a bug fest upon release and generally poor nowadays. Then all the debacle over the actresses appearance being made purposely uglier with a broken nose was the final nail in the coffin for me.

 

[digdug2]

I passed because it's generic garbage that has been done better by other studios years ago.

 

[Johnny Concrete]

I didn't even know it was 'woke'. It just looked boring. The moment I saw that 'open world crouched walk stealth gameplay' in a trailer I was OUT.

 

[Jack Videogames]

It lost my interest before launch because it looked woke, then after launch it failed to regain it because it looked like shit

 

[hinch7]

Its a generic Ubisoft game and Star Wars. Pass.

 

[Saber]

I usually avoid Ubicrap and EA games. I doubt that even if I was willing to play those games I would buy them, they are extremelly generic, boring and uninspired. This Kay Vess screams Han Solo envy, and even use the same number of letters.

 

[SF Kosmo]

It wouldn't even occur to me to be bothered by a female character in the game and that's the extent to which I am aware of anything "woke" about it.

I passed on it because reviews are mid. A 7/10 Ubi game is the sort of thing I will play when it hits Game Pass in a year but I don't need to spend $70 on.

 

[Chuck Berry]

They passed on it because it was a broken, unfinished and buggy game starring a chick that looks like she wears underwear with dickholes in 'em.

 

[RoboFu]

Should be able to pick all three.

- bought it
- then I notice all the woke influences
- then I realized it's at the worst end of the ubicrap spectrum.

 

[StueyDuck]

One are aesthetic and other is game design. It doesn’t mix into each other but they certainly add to the experience together. You can have an ugly game that is glorious, like Deadly Premonition. And you can have a beautiful made game that is boring, like almost every AAA game since 2013. But one has to weight more in your decision making.

I disagree to that.

And it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what woke is to be honest.

Is using "cancel" and triggers in dustborn which is entirely gameplay also aesthetical?

 

[Dr.D00p]

I'd already played Star Wars Outlaws....in 2014.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

It didn't bomb because it was woke, but because it was shit. Lowest possible effort on the part of Ubisoft, it really looks like everyone was busy making AC, so interns got put on it.

Yeah I think if it were a really polished game that surprised gamers with how fun the mechanics were and how much your choices matter, people would’ve looked past ugly Kay real quick.

Instead, when it released, it just confirmed everyone’s worst suspicions.

 

[Rocinante618]

Waiting for 75% off on the Complete Edition on Steam, so most likely I’ll buy this December 2025.

Note: I’m neither right nor left, I’m more or less a centrist but if you dig deeper I guess I’m a classical liberal. Fiscally conservative in moderation but socially progressive.