kunnikuman
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It's upscaled and not 60fps.
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Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth NA Release Date Announced [Feb 2nd 2016]
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Paper Sparrow
Member
Digimon World has been all over the place. It used to be the name of any mainline game that came out. (1 was a virtual pet type thing, 2 and 3 were turn-based rpgs, 4 was a hack-and-slash).
Recently, they have been using it to refer to the virtual pet ala Digimon World 1 type of gameplay.
Digimon Story started on the DS (called Digimon World DS in the West). They are all turn-based JRPGs.
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People with the Chinese version say it is.
kunnikuman
Neo Member
People with the Chinese version also said it isn't.
"Literally geological." Haha, amazing.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Kyle is trying so hard to get everyone else involved in Digimon ^^;
Lol at Brendan asking if it's a turn-based JRPG or a VN =_=
You sure? All the PS4 trailers I saw looked pretty butter smooth.
Paper Sparrow
Member
Do you have a professional source? Otherwise, we'll have wait and see, because he said, she said on the internet won't go anywhere.
In any case, it is obvious from gameplay and trailers that it runs at a higher frame rate, even if not 60 fps.
Maleko Saint
Banned
Really can't wait for this. Also hoping this does well enough to end up getting Next Order in the West as well.
kunnikuman
Neo Member
It was same with SAO HF, the trailers and gameplay released were 60fps. The game wasn't. They never said it is 60fps so it won't be 60fps.
It is as good as the one you got from.
Paper Sparrow
Member
I know, that's why I said we should wait and see, since neither of us have a 100% trustworthy source.
YianGaruga
Banned
upscaled from what?
Vita, he's not talking about upscaled resolution but assets and textures.
The game looks bad on PS4.
YianGaruga
Banned
It's still rendering at 1080p.
I know you've been trying to convince everyone how bad it looks, but let's not spread misinformation.
We can all judge that for ourselves and surprisingly no one here has any problem with the look expect for you.
Nice Xbone launch spin.
You can render psp games at 1080p but it's not like those textures won't look like shitty upscales.
Also, I'm not trying to convince anyone, the textures are ripped straight from the Vita version and there's not even AA, it's just how it is.
YianGaruga
Banned
Are you kidding me? The Xbox situation is completely different. The resolution of the game is 1080p and that's it. It has nothing to do with the assets.
Whatever, keep on shitposting
I was alluding to the fact that you're trying to spin positively the fact that it's 1080p when we weren't even talking about resolution.
"Hey, this game has no AF and the draw distance is shit."
"It's still rendering at 1080p."
YianGaruga
Banned
The conversation was
"It's 1080p60"
"no its upscaled (i.e. not 1080p) and not 60fps"
how am I spinning anything by correcting that? The conversation was about rendering resolution. You brought in the textures.
Higher rendering res makes a huge difference in IQ, independent of asset quality. If you think it looks bad that's okay. But you come in every Digimon thread telling everyone how bad it looks as if that was a fact, when that's clearly a minority opinion.
The only reason Vita looks "better" to you is because its on a smaller screen. If you put the game on PSTV and PS4 next to each other, PS4 looks 100% better. That is a fact.
omnislayer
Member
You were the only one that mentioned that shit. They were just talking about resolution and framerate.
I don't think anyone here but you was expecting anything better than 1080p and (maybe)60fps.
The game certainly does not look "bad" on ps4 since the game already stood out as a particularly nice looking vita game.
kunnikuman
Neo Member
I never said it wasn't 1080p. I answered no to 60fps at first and added it in. Im not wrong that it's using upscaled assets.
Spinning against my post, not kunnikuman's. Well, whatever, that's not important.
I was just pointing out what he meant with "upscaled" since being 1080p was brought up as a positive against the Vita version when, in this case, is just a number and not indicative of better quality,
He was talking about that, trust me.
It does look good on a Vita at its original res and with that pixel density. When you reuse everything and stretch it to 1080p without adding anything to make up for it, it stops looking good. It doesn't look awful, I'll give you that. There are way worse looking games.
I hope its in 1080p when its posted.
YianGaruga
Banned
It's pretty clear that you don't understand what rendering resolution is
It's not "just a number"
You're still missing the point. The game does not benefit from running at a higher resolution when you don't translate everything else to be suitable for that resolution.
YianGaruga
Banned
every game does benefit from higher rendering resolution. It has nothing to do with assets.
That's why everyone goes insane when PC ports are locked at 1080p. These also have a maximum asset quality, but people still want to run it in 4k
Paper Sparrow
Member
I'll have it up Monday morning Pacific Time.
It may or may not be in 60fps as well, and textures will be stretched.
The Mad Draklor
Member
That's... actually false
omnislayer
Member
This can't be more wrong.
All games benefit from a higher resolution. I say this as a pc gamer.
Those pc ports don't use textures ripped off a game that runs at 960x544, with 128mb of VRAM and you can also enable AA and a lot of other tweaks.
This is how it looks on PS4. The models looks aliased because you're playing on a big screen and the ppi are, well, not high since you're on a tv and the textures look like that because they're upscaled.
On a Vita, even if you don't have AA, the high(er) ppi mitigate most of it.
omnislayer
Member
That still looks a lot better than the vita version.
Lord of Ostia
Member
If that screenshot is supposed to prove your point that it looks bad on PS4, than it failed miserably.
No it doesn't and you wouldn't say that if you looked at it running on an actual Vita instead of screenshots you're looking at on your screen.
If you have no standards, sure. Those textures are embarrassingly bad.
omnislayer
Member
Sorry dude. I think you're alone here.
YianGaruga
Banned
Seriously, I have no idea what Prelude is trying to prove here.
The game will look sweet on my TV.
They're exactly the same textures
Lord of Ostia
Member
I mean, opinions and all that, but I really do not see what you are talking about. There is clearly an enhancement to the visuals from the higher resolution. Sure that doesn't change the origins of the textures but it's not like they are worse textures than the vita version?
The Mad Draklor
Member
Well, I used the Logical Fallacy Ref on the NPD thread. I guess this is a great opportunity to do it here, too, so congrats Prelude.!!
YianGaruga
Banned
Yeah Vita games on the PSTV look actually pretty decent, it's impossible for the PS4 one to look worse
Infinite Xero
Member
Are there any screenshots taken from the PS4 and Vita for a direct comparison? I'll view each shot on their respective device.
omnislayer
Member
I think this game may have murdered his entire family.
Vita - http://i.imgur.com/mS9lz0p.jpg
PS4- http://i.imgur.com/KEOGxUb.png
V - http://i.imgur.com/wohrZ0U.jpg
P - http://i.imgur.com/tf0iwBT.png
V - http://i.imgur.com/Y2Uk2rz.jpg
P- http://i.imgur.com/5a5urXt.png
V - http://i.imgur.com/wLPgtNN.jpg
P - http://i.imgur.com/UyqM2Hj.png
Keep in mind that Vita screenshots suffer from compression though.
From this thread: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/757436-digimon-story-cyber-sleuth/73021413/839660899
GloriousBagel
Banned
Instead of shitting on each other, how about you guys watch this PS4 gameplay off screen footage?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j2hRFYX1-iY
It doesn't look bad imo and the character models look okay, a little blown up but it isn't bad.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j2hRFYX1-iY
It doesn't look bad imo and the character models look okay, a little blown up but it isn't bad.
Paper Sparrow
Member
It's hard to compare because Vita screenshots are compressed.
A GameFAQs poster did comparison screens though, if you still want to look.
The game looks good on both to me.
Edit: ^^Beaten
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
vita version looks great!
Yeah, no. There's a defence force for everything and I jumped right into it.
Are you doing it on purpose? Because that's exactly why they look terrible on PS4.
I'm done here, btw. I'm just wasting my time trying to make you understand that the sky is blue and on NeoGAF you win arguments just by ridiculing the other poster, not by having a civil discussion and presenting your view on the matter.
I'll leave with this Agumon pic that I upscaled at a higher res to make it look better.
Well memed but if you think about it a little you'll see why looking at PS4 screens on a monitor is representative but it isn't for Vita screens. (hint:
ppi and compression
CambriaRising
Member
Both versions look great, but on a pure technical level no one can refute that the PS4 version comes out on top due to the resolution difference.