Digital Foundry vs Metro Redux
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Agreed. The "one input" of xb1 means more to me than a small resolution boost that I honestly wouldn't be able to tell unless maybe seeing the game on both systems side by side, maybe...
Dragonborn
Member
The $300 means plus, right? In which case, I pay mostly for the free games and discounts (which end up saving me way, way more than 50 bucks a year). I rarely if ever play online.
My point still stands, if you cannot build a 399 PC that performs on par with a PS4 (don't forget to include a controller and Windows), it has no place in a console discussion. It's obvious that an $800+ machine will do better than a $399 one so saying so adds absolutely nothing to the conversation.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
As much as I'd like this in full 1080p on PS4, my X1 needs to be fed. Frame rate sounds fine, so a small decrease in resolution isn't going to kill me.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
They nailed this. Especially on PS4 but it's great that they got the frame rate down on both platforms.
Psykodoughboy
Banned
i like how the build a pc better than console build guides they never mention that you still have to buy windows,
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Just vote with your wallet. The price will come down eventually.
Maybe for Last Light, sure, but 2033 Redux is completely overhauled. Uses the Last Light graphics engine and gameplay framework, as well as a bunch of other improvements. I enjoyed 2033 on PC but revisiting it again with the much more reliable and polished Last Light engine is going to be great.
SpecialAgentZ
Member
2014, supercharged PC architecture - can't handle tessellation that older machines were capable of handling. Big improvements with this remaster
Tomb Raider all over again, I see.
Will have to wait for the PC version to see real improvements.
on consoles... compared to last gen consoles
Tomb Raider all over again, I see.
Will have to wait for the PC version to see real improvements.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Now this is a Remastered edition done right.
Teletraan1
Banned
You are doing the same thing only to draw a positive conclusion. You are selectively stating that ONLY the SDK allowed Destiny to go to 900p to 1080p when we know MS engineers were sent onsite to aid. It could have been a combination of factors that allowed Destiny to hit 1080p IQ not exempted.
This game however looks like a solid port at a proper day one price.
overdrivex
Banned
halo mcc, 4 games all 1080p 60, 1 completely re done, a digital movie and access to halo 5
ethomaz
Banned
I don't know why this Destiny talk here but I think people needs to remember Destiny is a 30fps game... I'm sure Metro Redux should run at 1080 if 30fps.
ps4 = 400$, psn = 50$ a year so that's 350$
With 750$ I can find you a pc that shits on a ps4, you get your games cheaper AND you get a better gaming experience.
Nope, shitloads of games still use anamorphic resolutions, especially late last-gen games. The PS4 Lego games save Marvel even supersample from 1920x1280.
So, uh, is that 'No PC pissing in a console thread' rulesque thing still in effect here?
ethomaz
Banned
That is the issue in your post "$750"... he asked a a machine at the same price on PS4 that will run this game at rock solid 1080p@60fps... you can add Plus if you wish.
toastyToast
Member
Holy shit
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
I hope so, $60 for a one game remaster is bs... Also we don't get cheaper prices for digital games
Well if you want compare apple to apple you have to consider the 10-20$ minimum per game you'll pay more on a console and the 50$ a year just to play online. Upfront cost is higher but long therm is actually cheaper and you get a better gaming experience.
perfectsil
Member
no PC versions comparisons in this article, but this confirms no tessellation and super sampling on consoles,expected I guess
"Some of the high-end options found on PC don't make their way across to the Redux - if tessellation is utilised, it's to nowhere near the same degree as the PC version for example, and extreme rendering options like super-sampling are obviously off the table too. "
"Some of the high-end options found on PC don't make their way across to the Redux - if tessellation is utilised, it's to nowhere near the same degree as the PC version for example, and extreme rendering options like super-sampling are obviously off the table too. "
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Very impressive work. I'll be buying this.
FairXchange
Member
It's not even 'small' tho..
900p in BF4 is clearly softer and less detailed than native 1080p in comparison to other games on PS4. I can't get mad at others for not caring, but I am annoyed by the thought that my Xbox brethren are looking the other way on these sorts of matters. As an Xbox One owner myself, I won't pick up a game on the Xbone if it clearly performs better on the PS4. So right now the Xbox One is dedicated to the platform exclusives, which are great of course.
And don't forget to add the ~90 games over that seven years that you'll get to play at no extra charge with Plus.
ethomaz
Banned
And Plus give you a lot of free game per year.
There are advantages and disadvantages in both sides... you need to constant upgrade your PC too... most people spend more money per year in gaming PC that most users will spend in a console life.
I don't think any console user will be jealous about PC if their games run at rock solid 1080p@60fps in a $400 machine.
Insane Metal
Member
Great job keeping that 60fps goodness. 
No wonder you like the Last of Us so much
4A did it again, those dudes work under horrible condition and pull of what no other developer can. 60 fps and 1080p on PS4.
To each their own but I honestly would have no idea of the resolution if someone didn't tell me. As for bf4 on ps4 at 900p, is it possible Microsoft has a better scaler builtin?
no in fact the xbox one scaler makes the picture worse
Kssio_Aug
Member
I'm sure if these guys chosed to let it at 912p its because it looked good, doesnt matter how "strange" (or non-standard) it sounds. Also, its good their enphasis on rock solid frame-rate. This game have stunning visuals already, at 912p or 1080p and solid 60fps it will be a blast anyway!
I will get the PS4 version of this one thogh.
ethomaz
Banned
I don't know about others games but in BF4 case I found the IQ too bad when I played on PS4 to the point I decided to avoid it (no buy).
Tried Hardline Beta and it is the same... some guys said they will up to 1080p... I will wait to see.
But the worst is not even the graphics but the bad code created by DICE... it is unacceptable.
legacyzero
Banned
YES! I love you, 4A!
3rdamention
Member
This is a case of where people change their opinions about different games to fit their narrative. Plus, when people are spinning things for their specific argument, they simply forget all the things they have said in the past because they are dizzy.
Wow! That was an entertaining find!
MagicWithEarvin
Member
How?
Let's not draw comparisons to the open market ownership (you know, humble, digital store seasonal sales, competition) to closed market incentivization.
Enjoy the "rock solid" (lol) 60 frames on all your games. I'll be spending 1200 per year upgrading my GPU (LOL what in the flying fuck... I haven't upgraded most of my PCs since early 2012 and they still outperform these consoles handily).
Perhaps we should follow what digital foundry said instead of the same tired (and wrong) arguments:
If you want the premier visual experience, it is still PC. Even in this case. If you don't mind some downgrades, then both of these versions will provide you with a decent experience for these titles.
I know it did early on but thought that was fixed.
ethomaz
Banned
Like I said there are advantages and disadvantages... no one is superior to other.
LukasTaves
Member
He was wanting to even the field which is basically impossible, especially considering be was only trying to bring up the extra costs on PS4,
About the rest of your comment: yes, powerful gaming PCs are more powerful and more expensive than consoles. Games will always look better on great PCs. People like consoles for a singular gaming experience that's easy, inexpensive, with first-party and console-only third-party games, and great looking games for the cost.
Anyway, beside the point.