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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
lol why am I not surprised by these comments.
idk, is it weird that I got a boner?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Maybe.
But you can't play it bed. Or in a car. On a hill. In a landfill. While in the air. While at the fair. While riding a bear. On the can. In a traffic jam...
I thought ISPs backed away from offering those?
Outrun
Member
The 4k part plus the CPU overhead on unoptimized code.
High res SoC image from Major Nelsons Blog. https://majornelson.com/2017/04/06/project-scorpio-update/
Alien technology from the Roswell crash. In all seriousness, that is beautiful.
Starfield
Member
No it totally isn't. I already said I'd go for it too, for the ladies.
Darkstorne
Member
Aren't there rumours about a new PS4 design this year too? Not sure if they were debunked, but a cheaper PS4 Pro model launching alongside Scorpio would be very interesting...
Yeah, it's incredibly rare. And even though I buy my phones outright it's much easier to justify - I use them in every aspect of my life, including for my work. A phone is a necessity, while a console is a luxury.
Did you miss this?
Even I don't have infinite patience. We are talking about more than a decade here.
Also, some posts here make the AF thing sound like an engineering accomplishment -- it's not, it's purely a policy decision which could have been made in 2006, just i nterms of technology.
All that said, it will be good to finally get people used to having clear texture filtering everywhere.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Yeah this was also my take too... FreeSync is nice for those people that have the Monitor for it but no current TV manufacturer currently supports it but in 3 years or less you got HDMI 2.1 coming up so this FreeSync support would have been much appreciated earlier but now it feels like it got here too late.
killatopak
Gold Member
Aces&Eights
Member
I think this sounds like a great machine. The only thing I would wait on is seeing what the devs can really do with it. If multiplats come out and are running substantially better than the Pro, I would pick one up. If they are mostly the same with some small upgrades, I will grab an S this holiday for the 4k player and I bet the S goes on sale to compete with the probable Pro price drop this Christmas. Win win for me.
The Futurist
Member
Yup.
Just like original PS4 versions of games not looking and running better than xbox one games.
Right.
Keep it up though.
Looks like a Polaris derivative @6TF
To me that sounds more like a RX480 than a 1070
Sure there very well may be some optimizations that will make it perform better than it should specs wise but we'll have to wait and see for that
As it is, looking at the specs, it's definitely not a 1070 class GPU
rokkerkory
Member
Some really amusing responses in here lol
geordiemp
Member
When the die images come in, it will look exactly like jaguar, smell like jaguar, walk like jaguar lol
want to make an avatar bet ?
Every console manufacturer says heavily customised for every reveal.... yada yada.
Its a Jaguar with some PR. Own it and deal with it, games on Pro or scorpio wont be running that much better than 30 when its a 30 game, although Scorpio has removed the bandwidth bottleneck over the Pro, but both pro and scorpio have a Jag around their necks ...IMO.
I would of bought scorpio if it had Zen just for the promise of 60 FPS 3rd party gaming on console....I have 2 Pro's already, so not so excited anymore.
JonnyDBrit
Member
If Microsoft were to actually release this thing at $399, it would destroy 'I can build a PC just as powerful for less' arguments. That said, I actually expect $499, because Microsoft taking that much of a loss on what's going to be a niche for their hardcore enthusiasts seems unlikely.
Otherwise, looks like a pretty damned nice proposition; at the very least interesting in terms of the tech itself.
Edit: I expect a lot of 'True 4K' in the marketing.
Otherwise, looks like a pretty damned nice proposition; at the very least interesting in terms of the tech itself.
Edit: I expect a lot of 'True 4K' in the marketing.
You can't take it with you so no. There will be no Scorpio roof parties.
you wont get anything so idk
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Are there goose pimples on it?
Broadbandito
Member
yep. Unless you play a lot of 360 games or the xbox one exclusives that are not on pc. All xbox games moving forward (and for awhile now) are coming to windows 10...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
DerZuhälter;233468676 said:
this is a good thing. it is not trying to be a next gen console. if you dont care for 4k 60 fps, dont buy it. its not for you.
if it WAS a new gen console then we would have all been in trouble. MS would've effectively released a next gen console only 4 years into this gen with only a 3x upgrade. This would've slowed down the graphical jump we are used to seeing with each gen. When Sony came out with the true next gen console with a 10-12 tflop GPU, it would only be 2x more powerful than the Scorpio and no one would bother to take advantage of it. we would be playing games made for a 6tflop console in 2025. how depressing is that.
the jaguar cpu basically ensures a true next gen console release from MS in 2020. the CPU simply wont last past 2019 and the industry would be forced to go and have a true next gen upgrade.
Purchasing the Xbox Scorpio for me is really going to come down to which studios are going to backpatch their Xbox One games for 4K/super sampling.
The Xbox One is already my platform of choice for 3rd party games ... So if a significant chunk of them are going to all of a sudden look and/or run better... Then I'll buy it.
If devs can't be bothered to make Dark Souls 3 run without frame drops or Deus Ex: Mankind Divided still stutters like crazy just walking through the main city, then there's no point in my purchasing the system.
What I want from Microsoft at this point​
The list of existing games developers have committed to making a Scorpio patch for.
The Xbox One is already my platform of choice for 3rd party games ... So if a significant chunk of them are going to all of a sudden look and/or run better... Then I'll buy it.
If devs can't be bothered to make Dark Souls 3 run without frame drops or Deus Ex: Mankind Divided still stutters like crazy just walking through the main city, then there's no point in my purchasing the system.
What I want from Microsoft at this point​
The list of existing games developers have committed to making a Scorpio patch for.
LifEndz
Member
Wait...only slightly? I'm not a tech guy but the difference in ram and gpu lead me to believe the difference would be significant.
th3sicknness
Member
Not trying to bash the game.. But is Forza really a system seller? The racing audience is so small comparatively to any other genre imo.
Okami Haundo
Member
SuperÑ;233468701 said:
This sentiment shows a clear misunderstanding of how buying phones works... If you think even a slight majority of people who buy new phones are paying full retail price, you're insane.
Either way, I don't think $499 is unreasonable given the tech they've included. If they came in at $399 it would be insanely competitive. As in Microsoft is taking a decent loss on each unit sold competitive.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
The thing is. Forza 7 will use the same engine 6 has. Forza 6 is already available on the PC with DX12. So i realised that this port doesn't say anything at the moment. Also the cars are not driving but standing still at the start grid. How will the performance be when everything moves?
Complicated
Banned
Microsoft announced Scorpio over a year before release specifically to avoid surprising consumers (and developers) like Sony did with the Pro.
They should do that with consoles, and you just get a new one every 2 years.
The funny part is, he may not be wrong at 1080p. 4k is where we'll see the most differences.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Don't mind him, he smokes crack
Go play Horizon 3 and be amazed.
ronaldthump
Member
watched the videos. God. It's weird. DF shilling hard. The 5 best features aren't benched marked but a whole series of selling points with no showcase with games and how it functions.
RebornYeti
Member
Hmmm sounds pretty good. Hopefully we don't have to wait until E3 for the full reveal, but my hopes aren't high.
Pretty sure I'm going to purchase on Day One, but the price better not be redonkulous.
Pretty sure I'm going to purchase on Day One, but the price better not be redonkulous.
Embarrassing post.
).LordOcidax
Member
On the Go or in console mode?
7DollarHagane
Banned
Didn't get me too excited. Maybe excitrd to pick up a cheap Xbox one a if people start dumping them. I traded mine to get a switch.