Krappadizzle
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Dishonored: Death of The Outsider |OT| The Other Side of The Coin
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I think in some interview the developers mentioned that Emily was basically the canon story, and that Corvo was added for the existing fans.
The game doesn't vary much based on who you choose, but it was interesting tidbit.
I'm really not sure how it works, so I don't want to spread FUD about it. It's just that the way the DLC begins is strikingly similar to my last D2 playthrough. It could obviously be a coincidence, but everything I did in the main game was reflected in the first DLC level.
Super excited for this, and I hope it does well commercially.
I like that these AAA publishers are experimenting with "budget-AAA" releases, like Uncharted: Lost Legacy and now this one. Plus there was Hellblade a month or two ago, which approached the format from the other direction (bringing an indie up to AAA-presentation rather than shrinking AAA down to indie-size).
If these games do well then hopefully we'll have more games in this format. Personally I love paying half-price for a AAA experience shrunk down to indie-sized length.
I like that these AAA publishers are experimenting with "budget-AAA" releases, like Uncharted: Lost Legacy and now this one. Plus there was Hellblade a month or two ago, which approached the format from the other direction (bringing an indie up to AAA-presentation rather than shrinking AAA down to indie-size).
If these games do well then hopefully we'll have more games in this format. Personally I love paying half-price for a AAA experience shrunk down to indie-sized length.
NaturalHigh
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Can't wait to play. Don't plan on sleeping much tonight since I'll be exploring every nook and cranny while going low chaos.
It definitely does not read Dishonored 2 save games. (Used process monitor to check).
d00d3n
Member
I don't know what this says (if anything at all), but there is an option "original game+" when you start a new game in the dlc. The option is greyed out for me despite having a completionist "perfect save" in Dishonored 2 (both are Steam versions).
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I don't know what this says (if anything at all), but there is an option "original game+" when you start a new game in the dlc. The option is greyed out for me despite having a completionist "perfect save" in Dishonored 2 (both are Steam versions).
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I think it's just new game+, with skills from Dishonored 2.
wild wild rice
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This will be the first time I go on a murderous rampage on the first play through of a Dishonored game. Can't wait!
I don't know what this says (if anything at all), but there is an option "original game+" when you start a new game in the dlc. The option is greyed out for me despite having a completionist "perfect save" in Dishonored 2 (both are Steam versions).
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For some reason I thought this was supposed to be called Old Game+, which I would find more funny than it should be.
Yeah, I used Korea and it worked fine. I'm playing in offline mode as we speak.
BLUElightCory
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I think they ditched the chaos system for this one.
GavinUK86
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So far so good on PC. Couple points:
1 - It does not read any save files. Low Chaos + saving everyone you can has always been Arkane's default canon, if they have to choose one.
2 - Still roaming around the first area on the first mission but it runs really well on a GTX 970 while Dishonored 2 always ran like crap, even on the lowest setting.
The areas here seem way smaller but with more depth to them so I can only presume that's why performance is much better.
If the game opens up later though, it could be the same as Dishonored 2. Have to wait and see but fingers crossed.
1 - It does not read any save files. Low Chaos + saving everyone you can has always been Arkane's default canon, if they have to choose one.
2 - Still roaming around the first area on the first mission but it runs really well on a GTX 970 while Dishonored 2 always ran like crap, even on the lowest setting.
The areas here seem way smaller but with more depth to them so I can only presume that's why performance is much better.
If the game opens up later though, it could be the same as Dishonored 2. Have to wait and see but fingers crossed.
NaturalHigh
Member
They did indeed. But I just finished the first mission with no kills and ghost. I missed a painting though and I'm currently perplexed on where it was.
matrix-cat
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Downloading now. See you in six hours 
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Deleted member 17706
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Well if the first mission is anything to go by, this game is going to be quite good! Really glad they got rid of the chaos system. It definitely feels freeing in terms of doing a mixture of non-lethal and lethal approaches.
I'm playing on Hard this time since the original Dishonored 2 was a bit too easy on the standard difficulty.
I'm playing on Hard this time since the original Dishonored 2 was a bit too easy on the standard difficulty.
Coriolanus
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PeskyToaster
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Yes! Has the same sort of design principles as Dishonored with a cool sci-fi aesthetic. I thought it was great. Still my GotY right now.
wild wild rice
Member
Looking forward to more impressions. I'm picking this up today, but probably won't get to it until next week or so.
Very excited for a bite sized Dishonored adventure though. I'm curious about length.
Very excited for a bite sized Dishonored adventure though. I'm curious about length.
I enjoyed everything in Prey apart from the bloody load times between areas. My heart sank when I realized that I needed to get to the other end of the station for whatever reason.
On topic, I hope this is good. Is the input lag on PS4 any better than in the main game? That was in the cusp of playability, for me.
The Albatross
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The Dishonored series is my top new IP from the last 5 years. I might even say top 5 from the last 10 years along side IPs like the Last of Us, or RDR if that counts (given that RDR was really a fairly different game than Red Dead Revolver).
Arkane is just so good. The lore they pack their worlds with is great. The imaginitive gameplay is so unique. Their game worlds are great, characters are interesting.
It's amazing how much Dishonored 1 got right, as well. In an age when the second game always feels like it "should have been the first" and makes the first feel like a tech demo (Assassins Creed, Titanfall, Uncharted, etc), Dishonored 1 just got so much right. I only played Dishonored 1 once and then went back years later after playing the hell out of Dishonored 2 expecting it to be a lot worse than I remembered, but it wasn't... Aside from some things that were a little rough around the edges, and some levels that weren't paced evenly (especially towards the end), I was so surprised how well it all still played and how unique each level felt.
Dishonored 2, IMO, was a masterpiece. The first time playing the Adermire institute level I was afraid with my heart pumping. The first time in the clockwork mansion my mind was bending around those puzzles. First time in A Crack in the Slab I was just sitting in my chair with a huge smile on my face because when I didn't think the game could get any more clever, it just did. And then replaying all of those missions using Stealth / Ghost / No Kill / High Kill / etc, just made them so much different. Playing through a lot of levels 3 or 4 times I found things that I never saw the first 2 or 3 times, ways in our out of a room. Just a brilliant game.
I'm really excited for Death of the Outsider, though sad that it's also "the end" of this Dishonored saga/trilogy. It sounds like Arkane doesn't quite know if they're going to revisit the series, but I hope they do. Although they seem firm on the idea that this is the last Dishonored set around this period -- the rat plague, assassination of the Empress, bloodfly epidemic -- and that if they do come back to the continent, it'll be at a different time with a different story. I'm okay with that because the lore is so rich that they have a lot they can expand on.
(reposted what I wrote in the Dishonored thread from a couple days ago. also subbed, nice OP)
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Just plugged in my code, excited to play it tonight or tomorrow when I get a chance.
Excited for this OT as well. Dishonored is my favorite 'new' series.
It didn't bomb, but it's the last chapter of the Assassination of the Empress / Rat Plague / Bloodfly saga that started with Dishonored 1 and is now considered wrapped up at the end of this game. In interviews, the developers/designers have said that they'd love to make new storylines in this universe, but it won't be in this saga anymore. Think of it like how the Elder Scrolls games are all on the same continent and the same world but take place centuries and centuries apart, with some tie ins back and forth but the most part completely distinct stories.
I think Bethesda will finance new Dishonored games, though maybe not for several years. It's a great series and I don't think the mediocre sales would disuade them. Not many new IPs really do gangbusters without selling out the consumer (like Destiny for instance which has likely made a fortune but only through shitty loot crates, skins, etc).
I think the New Game+ only refers to DIshonored: Death of the Outsider, which the developers said after beating the game you'll unlock a new game+ that has all of Emily and Corvo's powers to choose from. I don't think DotO world changes based on what you did in Dishonored 1 or 2. Arkane has a 'cannon' for the game and while players can do whatever they want in it, the canon follows Emily's play through, and sort of presumes you did the right thing, getting the good ending with Billie Lurk.
Arkane is just so good. The lore they pack their worlds with is great. The imaginitive gameplay is so unique. Their game worlds are great, characters are interesting.
It's amazing how much Dishonored 1 got right, as well. In an age when the second game always feels like it "should have been the first" and makes the first feel like a tech demo (Assassins Creed, Titanfall, Uncharted, etc), Dishonored 1 just got so much right. I only played Dishonored 1 once and then went back years later after playing the hell out of Dishonored 2 expecting it to be a lot worse than I remembered, but it wasn't... Aside from some things that were a little rough around the edges, and some levels that weren't paced evenly (especially towards the end), I was so surprised how well it all still played and how unique each level felt.
Dishonored 2, IMO, was a masterpiece. The first time playing the Adermire institute level I was afraid with my heart pumping. The first time in the clockwork mansion my mind was bending around those puzzles. First time in A Crack in the Slab I was just sitting in my chair with a huge smile on my face because when I didn't think the game could get any more clever, it just did. And then replaying all of those missions using Stealth / Ghost / No Kill / High Kill / etc, just made them so much different. Playing through a lot of levels 3 or 4 times I found things that I never saw the first 2 or 3 times, ways in our out of a room. Just a brilliant game.
I'm really excited for Death of the Outsider, though sad that it's also "the end" of this Dishonored saga/trilogy. It sounds like Arkane doesn't quite know if they're going to revisit the series, but I hope they do. Although they seem firm on the idea that this is the last Dishonored set around this period -- the rat plague, assassination of the Empress, bloodfly epidemic -- and that if they do come back to the continent, it'll be at a different time with a different story. I'm okay with that because the lore is so rich that they have a lot they can expand on.
(reposted what I wrote in the Dishonored thread from a couple days ago. also subbed, nice OP)
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Just plugged in my code, excited to play it tonight or tomorrow when I get a chance.
Excited for this OT as well. Dishonored is my favorite 'new' series.
It didn't bomb, but it's the last chapter of the Assassination of the Empress / Rat Plague / Bloodfly saga that started with Dishonored 1 and is now considered wrapped up at the end of this game. In interviews, the developers/designers have said that they'd love to make new storylines in this universe, but it won't be in this saga anymore. Think of it like how the Elder Scrolls games are all on the same continent and the same world but take place centuries and centuries apart, with some tie ins back and forth but the most part completely distinct stories.
I think Bethesda will finance new Dishonored games, though maybe not for several years. It's a great series and I don't think the mediocre sales would disuade them. Not many new IPs really do gangbusters without selling out the consumer (like Destiny for instance which has likely made a fortune but only through shitty loot crates, skins, etc).
I don't know what this says (if anything at all), but there is an option "original game+" when you start a new game in the dlc. The option is greyed out for me despite having a completionist "perfect save" in Dishonored 2 (both are Steam versions).
Picture:
I think the New Game+ only refers to DIshonored: Death of the Outsider, which the developers said after beating the game you'll unlock a new game+ that has all of Emily and Corvo's powers to choose from. I don't think DotO world changes based on what you did in Dishonored 1 or 2. Arkane has a 'cannon' for the game and while players can do whatever they want in it, the canon follows Emily's play through, and sort of presumes you did the right thing, getting the good ending with Billie Lurk.
E_Darkness
Member
I have crappy internet currently so downloading the 3GB patch is taking up a bunch of my time.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
3 GB Patch?
5 missions afaik,so a little more than half of D2's length i guess.
No idea.
rackham
Banned
Does it have multiple endings/dialogue?
HellforLeather
Member
In the trailer it was definitely Madsen.
NaturalHigh
Member
The coin from contracts is automatically given to you at the end of the mission? Or do I need to pick it up in between on the Wale?
Given - there's a (new) fourth tab on the mission complete screen now for that stuff.
Enjoy, my friend. Killing everything in sight is absolutely the correct way to play the Dishonored games. Guards, random civilians, bad dudes, it doesn't matter who they are, they're gonna get killed in some strange, creative way.
Finished the first mission last night and I'm really enjoying it so far. The mission was pretty short, but it felt like a Dishonored level. Dishonored 2 was one of my favorite games last year, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the rest of the DLC stacks up.
HellforLeather
Member
Ive had a rough go with Dishonored games. Ive always recognized the quality but the urge to go non lethal has always made for some frustrating stop and go/reload old save gameplay for me.
Im currently doing my 2nd playthrough D2 with Emily and going full lethal....its so much more fun.
BLUElightCory
Member
Really enjoying this so far. Not having to worry about the chaos system makes the gameplay feel much so much freer and more satisfying, and Billie seems like a good character so far. I didn't realize how much more fun the lethal (but still stealthy when possible) approach could be.
Judging by the posts on this forum, it seems like you're not alone with the urge to play nice. I guess I'm lucky in that I've never had a problem being a murderous bastard in games. I think of myself as a pretty nice guy in real life, so being a real not-nice guy in video games has always been a lot of fun for me. I actually really enjoy the dissonance that it can bring too, like, "This guy just murdered 40 innocent people... why the hell does no one seem to really care?"
It's how I made the new Hitman really fun for myself, too. At first I was sort of trying to play stealthy and get to the objectives real quiet-like... until something clicked in my brain and I realized that throwing a grenade into one of those big crowds would be a whole lot more fun.
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