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Disney about to purchase all of Sony for Spider-Man rights?

StormCell

Member
Disney has a couple of options they can consider, and none of them involve Playstation or the Sony parent company. I believe they could just pay Sony the asking price for the Spider-man movie rights, or they could just bid to buy Sony Pictures if Sony were interested in selling. That seems far more likely, IMO.

I'm not at all crazy about the more recent Spider-man movies though. They're too many to remember. All of them have sucked since Spider-man 3.
 
Regardless of this rumor:
You are Sony, Disney approaches and requires the Marvel characters movie rights (Spider-man, Venom, etc...). They also get the exclusive rights to use Sony IPs in movies and TV shows.

In exchange you get exclusive deal for using Disney IPs in videogames.

What would you do?

If they get full rights, in perpetuity, to Disney's IPs in videogames then it's a no brainer for Sony to do this deal. Heck just Lucas' IPs would be worth it to Sony. Or just Marvel's.

It would be a really, really dumb deal for Disney though.
 

Same ol G

Member
Sony doesn't own Spider-man, they own the movie rights to Spider-man and Spider-man original characters.

Every other bit of merchandising belongs to Disney/Marvel, this includes video games. Spider-man being exclusive to PlayStation is a license deal.

We don't know the extent of the deal Sony made with Marvel, but they probably have to get a new license for every new game.
Oh in that case, i wish they would make an ultimate spiderman game again.
 

ManaByte

Member
We don't know the extent of the deal Sony made with Marvel, but they probably have to get a new license for every new game.

People like to believe that since Sony has the movie rights they have the game rights by default, but that's not the truth (otherwise Spider-Man couldn't have been in Ultimate Alliance 3 or any of their endless mobile shovelware). The truth is that Marvel Games offered Insomniac an exclusive Marvel game and they could pick any character they wanted. They chose Spider-Man.
 
Wasn't the cash around 45 billion right now for Sony?

It's 19B

Cash on hand is a meaningless stat for internet nerds though. Long story short, what is the cash in the bank doing for you (i.e. the investor)? Nothing.

It's much preferable that the company is either:

A) Investing to expand its footprint and value
B) Buying back stock
C) Increasing dividends

Most important figure, especially when looking at M&A, is EV. Everything else is spin that one is doing.

 

Same ol G

Member
So does that mean that even every game that doesn't make to the Nintendo Switch isn't multiplatform then?
So does that mean every game that doesn't make it to the Switch, Playstation or Xbox isn't multiplatform then?
Games that skip certain platforms are not true multiplatform imo.
That's my definition of a real multiplatform game.
 

onesvenus

Member
They can issue new stock but it may devalue the outstanding stock...they can't reclaim outstanding stock, they have to offer a 'repurchase' and that usually gives a premium to the seller.
Don't most companies have stock of their own? They should be able to exchange that without devaluating stock, shouldn't they?
 

Bryank75

Banned
Don't most companies have stock of their own? They should be able to exchange that without devaluating stock, shouldn't they?

Not really, a founder or some of the board might have a few % of the companies outstanding shares but unless they do a stock repurchase, they generally do not.

The company offers stock at the IPO at a pre-determined price and it is the only time the company gets money from the stock....after that point the stock is freely traded on the markets and only the shareholders make money from them.
Stock repurchases happen from time to time to boost shareholder value usually and in that case the company can hold some stock but it's usually just a few %.... for instance a year or two ago Sony offered to buy back stock but they actually had nobody willing to sell back to them due to the growth looking so good.
 

NahaNago

Member
So does that mean every game that doesn't make it to the Switch, Playstation or Xbox isn't multiplatform then?
Games that skip certain platforms are not true multiplatform imo.
That's my definition of a real multiplatform game.
Interesting. The majority of folks before Microsoft's push to pc would have thought anything that was on PS and XB was multiplatform. Last gen made pc more of a thing for multiplatform and Nintendo was never even mentioned at least when it comes to AAA games.
 
Not really, a founder or some of the board might have a few % of the companies outstanding shares but unless they do a stock repurchase, they generally do not.

The company offers stock at the IPO at a pre-determined price and it is the only time the company gets money from the stock....after that point the stock is freely traded on the markets and only the shareholders make money from them.
Stock repurchases happen from time to time to boost shareholder value usually and in that case the company can hold some stock but it's usually just a few %.... for instance a year or two ago Sony offered to buy back stock but they actually had nobody willing to sell back to them due to the growth looking so good.
Source?

IIRC when Sony announced they were doing stock buyback in 2019 shares jumped because, of course it would as people are excited to get money, especially from a company not knowing to doing stock buyback.
 

Bryank75

Banned
That doesn't mean people weren't willing to sell back. That's just saying the price of the stock was high and the Sony board did the (correct) thing on not buying back shares at that price.

Stockholders are ALWAYS willing to sell at higher value.
 

Bryank75

Banned
That doesn't mean people weren't willing to sell back. That's just saying the price of the stock was high and the Sony board did the (correct) thing on not buying back shares at that price.

Stockholders are ALWAYS willing to sell at higher value.
Well I'm just going by what I read back then...

Of course the stock repurchase was set at a certain price, so maybe the holders were not getting enough, they felt.
 

T8SC

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Same ol G

Member
Interesting. The majority of folks before Microsoft's push to pc would have thought anything that was on PS and XB was multiplatform. Last gen made pc more of a thing for multiplatform and Nintendo was never even mentioned at least when it comes to AAA games.
Yeah i know everything in the PS360 era that came to both consoles was counted as multiplatform the Wii got ignored completely (which was logical) and a lot of games weren't coming to PC (that's thankfully different nowadays).
I just miss the time back in the days when let's say a Need for speed game came out i would discuss with my friends if they would buy the game or what did they think of it we all would be gaming on different consoles.
Nowadays when i speak with friends it's more asking what they are currently playing and showing interest in games that you can't play, the discussions about certain missions or talking about how the game could be better are nonexistent.

Edit.
This is in my eyes true multiplatform:
Quake revitalized edition officially rated for PS5, PS4, Xbox One, Series S/X, Nintendo Switch, and PC.
 
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coffinbirth

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Their market cap doesn't matter...... Market cap is how many shares are outstanding multiplied by their value. The private shareholder own those shares, NOT Disney.

Disney cannot use their market cap to buy another company.


Right now Disney have less cash on hand (16 billion) than Sony.... and Disney have a load of long term debt (50 billion)

Sony, which is not purchasable due to being a protected Japanese company...... would theoretically cost well over 150 billion and leave Disney in so much debt they would be in a financial crisis, much like AT&T has been for the last few years.
1. It does though, that's why it is a metric used in valuation.
2. Not what I was saying.
3. Sony has 2 TRILLION dollars in outstanding debt, with a debt to equity ratio of 3%...Disney's dter is literally 10x that.
4. That is a nonsense myth perpetuated by misinformation, majority stockholders and board members dictate these acquisitions not countries of origin, save for China. One need to look no further than this EXACT sector for proof of that for the last 25 years.
6. Disney buying Sony and parting out it's divisions makes most of that moot. Sony has bloat like no other.
5. AT&T is FINE. They have a sustainable debt load and their WM spinout is proof of portfolio health and synergistic recovery, also apples and oranges...

Again, I'm not saying this this WILL happen, I'm simply saying it COULD happen.
 

Bryank75

Banned
1. It does though, that's why it is a metric used in valuation.
2. Not what I was saying.
3. Sony has 2 TRILLION dollars in outstanding debt, with a debt to equity ratio of 3%...Disney's dter is literally 10x that.
4. That is a nonsense myth perpetuated by misinformation, majority stockholders and board members dictate these acquisitions not countries of origin, save for China. One need to look no further than this EXACT sector for proof of that for the last 25 years.
6. Disney buying Sony and parting out it's divisions makes most of that moot. Sony has bloat like no other.
5. AT&T is FINE. They have a sustainable debt load and their WM spinout is proof of portfolio health and synergistic recovery, also apples and oranges...

Again, I'm not saying this this WILL happen, I'm simply saying it COULD happen.

You think Sony has 2 trillion in debt? Are you stupid or something?

No, you cannot use shares owned by private individuals to buy another company... why would you think that?

Yeah, AT&T are fine now that they were forced to spin off most of their entertainment assets...

How many bad takes can you fit into one post???

Here is the source on Sony's long term debt, it is 9.5 billion. Do not contradict me when I have a reputable source and you do not.


Another source to corroborate the FACT

https://www.alphaquery.com/stock/SONY/fundamentals/quarterly/long-term-debt

You are looking at YEN figures and thinking they are dollars, no company in the world has more than a trillion in debt.
 
Sony is a Japanese company, and PlayStation is a Sony brand, so PlayStation is Japanese brand independently of where the main office of the division that handles that brand is located.

Okay, and so let me tell you how this actually works, in terms of the law. PlayStation headquarters is in California. It is registered with the American government, its headquarters has land on American soil. That means it pays taxes to the U.S government, and pays its employees in terms of American currency, among other things. Legally-speaking, it is an American entity, regardless of cultural roots.

You are simply speaking idealistically here, not logically or objectively.

As a global corporation, they have a shit ton of offices spread around the world.

Okay but again, the main PlayStation headquarters is now within California. This isn't a sub-division regional branch like the old Sony of America used to be. The main branch for PlayStation is now in California.

In any case, the article said Disney wanted to buy Sony, not PlayStation, because they wanted to get the rights of the Spider-Man movies. If they wanted to buy the division who has the Spider-Man rights they would buy Sony Pictures, not PlayStation.

Exactly, which is a big part why the rumor smells funny as-is.

In any case, Japan protects their strategical companies, in this case huge technological companies like Sony or Nintendo. Not Tango because it was a small studio.

"Protect" does not inherently mean prevention of them being purchased from a foreign corporation, though. It for example depends on what type of field the company is in. The field, and the size of the company in terms of its contribution to the Japanese economy weigh at different scales but weight doesn't have to be equal in all areas for the company to be deemed important enough to prevent an acquisition from a foreign corporation.

Sony and Nintendo (moreso Sony, but that's just because they have active participation in other areas outside of video games) fall into that status, but companies like Koei-Tecmo, Capcom or Square-Enix would not. I hope that is understandable.

So no, it won't happen. Even if Sony would want to sell the company (not the case, they don't have any reason to sell the company, Sony Pictures or PlayStation) and if Disney was able to pay enough for it (they don't have enough money and have a lot of debt), the Japanese government wouldn't allow it.

I mean at this point, you're just agreeing with what I basically said, it just seems like you had to vehemently disagree with my point on PlayStation as a corporate entity being an American corporation now. And I don't know why you felt the need to do that, because in the legal sense (which is the one that matters here), your objection is inaccurate.
 

coffinbirth

Member
You think Sony has 2 trillion in debt? Are you stupid or something?

No, you cannot use shares owned by private individuals to buy another company... why would you think that?

Yeah, AT&T are fine now that they were forced to spin off most of their entertainment assets...

How many bad takes can you fit into one post???

Here is the source on Sony's long term debt, it is 9.5 billion. Do not contradict me when I have a reputable source and you do not.


Another source to corroborate the FACT

https://www.alphaquery.com/stock/SONY/fundamentals/quarterly/long-term-debt

You are looking at YEN figures and thinking they are dollars, no company in the world has more than a trillion in debt.
"According to the Sony Group's most recent financial statement as reported on June 22, 2021, total debt is at $2.09 trillion, with $773.29 billion in long-term debt and $1.32 trillion in current debt."
You might want to learn how to fucking read, use google, understand global markets, and not be a condescending, self-owning dumbfuck!
 

TimFL

Member
All of Sony for the Spider-verse?

Yeah I aint buying it, thats a shit ton down like we are talking well over 50 billion dollars...even if every Spiderman movie made a billion dollars going forward they would need to make over 100 of them to make their money back?

If anything they offer Sony a couple billion dollars for the Spider-verse rights back, buying the whole company at the size that Sony is....well thats a drastic measure to say the least.
They wont hand over billions. There was some rumor that Sony asked for 10bil$ in exchange for the rights they have left on Spidey.

As a matter of fact, the rights Sony has left are nowhere worth close to that asking price considering they gave away bits and pieces of the whole Spidey licensing stuff over the last decade to continue running their movie franchise into the ground.
What Sony still owns: rights to the movie franchise (e.g. make a movie, creative control.. which they lend to Disney for the solo installments as they pretty much just foot bills)
What Sony gave up: rights to games, TV shows, the whole merchandising right they had (Sony literally can't do toys anymore, where the vast majority of revenue lies)

I think they did some special gaming deal with Disney a few years ago, probably that Disney has to do Spidey stuff exclusively on PlayStation or they pull out of the MCU after Disney did a hostile "we want half of the movie pie revenue" bait & switch.
 

Bryank75

Banned
"According to the Sony Group's most recent financial statement as reported on June 22, 2021, total debt is at $2.09 trillion, with $773.29 billion in long-term debt and $1.32 trillion in current debt."
You might want to learn how to fucking read, use google, understand global markets, and not be a condescending, self-owning dumbfuck!

Those are yen figures transposed directly into an article without being converted to dollars.

I just gave you two sources on the correct figures.

Just use your brain for one minute and ask 'how can a company have over a trillion in debt' .... hopefully you will realize how stupid you are being.

Don't take your stupidity out on me.
 
Yeah i know everything in the PS360 era that came to both consoles was counted as multiplatform the Wii got ignored completely (which was logical) and a lot of games weren't coming to PC (that's thankfully different nowadays).
I just miss the time back in the days when let's say a Need for speed game came out i would discuss with my friends if they would buy the game or what did they think of it we all would be gaming on different consoles.
Nowadays when i speak with friends it's more asking what they are currently playing and showing interest in games that you can't play, the discussions about certain missions or talking about how the game could be better are nonexistent.

Edit.
This is in my eyes true multiplatform:
Quake revitalized edition officially rated for PS5, PS4, Xbox One, Series S/X, Nintendo Switch, and PC.
IMO "multiplatform" has always meant more than one platform getting the game. There were lots of games for example that came out for the SNES & Genesis, but never got PC-Engine/Turbographx ports (altho the SNES & Genesis versions were usually way different from each other). Many games that came out for PS1 & N64 never came to Saturn in the West, but I would still consider them "multiplatform" since they were on more than one system.

Basically I don't think a game need come to every system under the Sun to be truly considered a multiplat, in fact that is likely more the exception vs. the rule for a lot of games at least up to the past 3-4 years.
 

coffinbirth

Member
Those are yen figures transposed directly into an article without being converted to dollars.

I just gave you two sources on the correct figures.

Just use your brain for one minute and ask 'how can a company have over a trillion in debt' .... hopefully you will realize how stupid you are being.

Don't take your stupidity out on me.
That is completely irrelevant.
Disney's net worth is 4x that of Sony.
That is a FACT.
 
You know, basic fact check via an internet search engine is not that hard.


$9 billion dollar yearly profit.

While Playstation is the biggest money maker, it is not the only one:

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Sony is also flush with cash (obviously not as much as Microsoft, but few companies are):

Lol. Noob.

I stand by my comment. If Disney wanted Sony they could by them with historic revenue off Disneyland and Disneyworld alone.
 

Bryank75

Banned

Over 50 billion in debt, only 1 billion profit last year, a loss of 2.8 billion the year before. Also less cash than sony by 3 or 4 billion.

Of course I am exaggerating but if Sony had results like that people would be saying all sorts of shit here.
 

Zathalus

Member
Lol. Noob.

I stand by my comment. If Disney wanted Sony they could by them with historic revenue off Disneyland and Disneyworld alone.
They only have $17 Billion dollars cash on hand and have $55 Billion dollars debt.


They need about ten times the amount they currently have available to buy out Sony.

Sony also has higher yearly revenue and profit then Disney does.
 
Covid hit Disney harder than most other companies, but they are not broken. Their debt is at historical highs, and the Disney board knows they need to get that under control and start paying up before interest start accruing too much; or they'll have to start to spin off assets when people come a knocking for their money. They are still okay - and can still incur more debt - right now since their Debt to Equity ratio is 0.56, but I guess that's the reason they started nickling and diming customers at the parks and the reason Iger bounced.

Disney will be okay, but I don't think they want to pile on more debt. They'll have to pay up Comcast in the (likely) 9-15B range (lowest being 5.8B) soon, so I am thinking they are not thinking any other acquisition at this point. That's the reason they stopped stock buyback and paying dividends. Wall Street is still okay with it because of the D+ expansion and plans.

Had Disney not launched Disney+ when they did - and had they not acquired Fox and control of Hulu when they did - then their stock would have tanked big time in the past 18 months or so. To the point where they'd be an acquisition target IMO.

Well I'm just going by what I read back then...

Of course the stock repurchase was set at a certain price, so maybe the holders were not getting enough, they felt.

No, it's more like Sony felt the stock price was too high at the time so they backed off on their buyback plans.

Shareholders were more than willing to sell, as they usually are when the stock gains.
 
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Bryank75

Banned
Covid hit Disney harder than most other companies, but they are not broken. Their debt is at historical highs, and the Disney board knows they need to get that under control and start paying up before interest start accruing too much; or they'll have to start to spin off assets when people come a knocking for their money. They are still okay - and can still incur more debt - right now since their Debt to Equity ratio is 0.56, but I guess that's the reason they started nickling and diming customers at the parks and the reason Iger bounced.

Disney will be okay, but I don't think they want to pile on more debt. They'll have to pay up Comcast in the (likely) 9-15B range (lowest being 5.8B) soon, so I am thinking they are not thinking any other acquisition at this point. That's the reason they stopped stock buyback and paying dividends. Wall Street is still okay with it because of the D+ expansion and plans.

Had Disney not launched Disney+ when they did - and had they not acquired Fox and control of Hulu when they did - then their stock would have tanked big time in the 18 months or so. To the point where they'd be an acquisition target IMO.



No, it's more like Sony felt the stock price was too high at the time so they backed off on their buyback plans.

Shareholders were more than willing to sell, as they usually are when the stock gains.

Not what I heard but it doesn't really matter. They have another buyback scheduled soon.
 
Not what I heard but it doesn't really matter. They have another buyback scheduled soon.

Again I'll need a source for what you claimed. I haven't heard that happen, ever. If there's money to be made now you take the money. Always. There'd be more than enough shareholders willing to sell back if Sony was willing to buy, which they weren't at that price.

Shareholders will sell on the gain, wait for the drop, and invest again.
 

Same ol G

Member
IMO "multiplatform" has always meant more than one platform getting the game. There were lots of games for example that came out for the SNES & Genesis, but never got PC-Engine/Turbographx ports (altho the SNES & Genesis versions were usually way different from each other). Many games that came out for PS1 & N64 never came to Saturn in the West, but I would still consider them "multiplatform" since they were on more than one system.

Basically I don't think a game need come to every system under the Sun to be truly considered a multiplat, in fact that is likely more the exception vs. the rule for a lot of games at least up to the past 3-4 years.
I understand that, the moment a game comes out on more than 1 platform it's already multiplatform.
But that doesn't mean i wouldn't like it if third party's would put fort more effort to release on as many systems as possible.
We all know that this is not possible with every game, not every system has the same capabilities.
I still feel that back in the days more games were released on all platforms even if they were sometimes different in certain ways.
 

yurinka

Member
Okay, and so let me tell you how this actually works, in terms of the law. PlayStation headquarters is in California. It is registered with the American government, its headquarters has land on American soil. That means it pays taxes to the U.S government, and pays its employees in terms of American currency, among other things. Legally-speaking, it is an American entity, regardless of cultural roots.

You are simply speaking idealistically here, not logically or objectively.

Okay but again, the main PlayStation headquarters is now within California. This isn't a sub-division regional branch like the old Sony of America used to be. The main branch for PlayStation is now in California.

I'll tell you how this actually works: I did work for many years in a gamedev studio of a major game publisher located in another country with many offices around the world. Each studio and each major division is oficially a 'separate' company from each country where the office is located, but all these companies are bought/part of the global corporation. In our case, our studio owners were partly ous studio bosses partly the company of that division, which is fully owned by the corporation. I was in a middle management position in daily contact with the HQ of our division and our corporation plus teams from many other studios spread around the world.

So we paid our taxes in our country for stuff we had to, specially those related to the workers of our studio, the office, etc. We paid the company of our division or the corportation for services from other studios of the corporation like testing, localization, QA, PR and so on. The company of our division paid us the budget for the games and the corporation paid us the budget of the game plus revenue share of the money generated by our games in exchange for 'giving' them the game. They do the same with the corporation.

The corportation is the one who sells the games to the custormers worldwide, pay the taxes of these games where needed (meaning the biggest amount of the taxes made by the games of our studio -or our studio- are paid by the corporation in another country with better tax system).

So yes, our studio was a 'different company' that paid the legally required taxes on its country, same goes with the company of our division and same goes with the global corporation. But at the end of the day the companies of our studio and our division where owned by the company of the global corportation, who pays the big chunk of the taxes (hundreds of millions every year) where needed.

Regarding decisions, we had some agency but obviously had to follow the mandate and plans of our owners, the corporation and the division. And same goes with the division, has some agency but has to follow the mandate of their owners, the corporation. Specially in top stuff like global corporation strategy and acquisitions the corporation, who is the real owner, is the one who decides what to do. Meaning the guys at SIE HQ (SIE is not PlayStation btw, one is a company/team and the other one is a brand) office aren't able to decide if Sony sells PlayStation to Disney, Sony should ask Sony Japan instead. And same goes with Sony Pictures.

"Protect" does not inherently mean prevention of them being purchased from a foreign corporation, though.

It for example depends on what type of field the company is in. The field, and the size of the company in terms of its contribution to the Japanese economy weigh at different scales but weight doesn't have to be equal in all areas for the company to be deemed important enough to prevent an acquisition from a foreign corporation.

Sony and Nintendo (moreso Sony, but that's just because they have active participation in other areas outside of video games) fall into that status, but companies like Koei-Tecmo, Capcom or Square-Enix would not. I hope that is understandable.
In this case what the Japanese goverment makes it's to forbid top companies in many strategic areas (in this case tech companies) from being acquired by foreign companies or countries.

Sony is a fucking giant Japanese company that generates $81.38B in revenue, has $238B in assets and 111,700 employees etc. So the government won't let it go. Obviously they don't care if some foreigner company buys small studios like Tango or Vanillaware.

I mean at this point, you're just agreeing with what I basically said, it just seems like you had to vehemently disagree with my point on PlayStation as a corporate entity being an American corporation now. And I don't know why you felt the need to do that, because in the legal sense (which is the one that matters here), your objection is inaccurate.
PlayStation is a brand, not a corporation, that belongs to the Japanese corporation Sony. You mean SIE (Sony Interactive Entertainment), who also belongs to Sony and has an HQ in California and another in Tokyo.

Regarding SIE, from wikipedia: Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE), formerly known as Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE), is a multinational video game and digital entertainment company wholly owned by Japanese multinational conglomerate Sony Group Corporation.

The SIE Group is made up of two legal corporate entities: Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC (SIE LLC) based in San Mateo, California, United States, and Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc. (SIE Inc.), based in Minato, Tokyo, Japan. Tokyo-based SIE Inc. was originally founded as Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI or SCE) in November 1993 to handle Sony's venture into video game development for the PlayStation systems. SIE LLC was established in San Mateo in April 2016, and is managed through Sony's American branch, Sony Corporation of America.

So as I explained before yes, they have a company for SIE in America (and another in Japan), another for Sony of America, other ones for Naughty Dog, Bend, Sony Pictures and many other ones. But all of them are fully owned to Sony directly or -what is the same- via subsidiaries/divisions of Sony. Which is Japanese.
 
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K' Dash

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Only in market cap,

Sony has more Long term assets 250 billion vs Disney's 160 billion

Sony has more cash on hand 19 billion vs Disney 16 billion

Sony makes more Revenue: Sony 84.6 billion VS Disney 63 billion

Sony has absolutely crushed Disney in net profits for the last 2 years.... Sony 10.7 Billion last year VS Disney 1.1 billion (last year)

This thread is an embarrassment and shows how financially illiterate people can be.

What's sad and embarrassing is that you come here crying over Disney trying to buy your PS5 over a rumor from a site that made up a click bait article to gain 10 visits.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Disney already owns spiderman because they own marvel. Spiderman is being rented by Sony for I am sure what are favorable terms to both.
 

Bryank75

Banned
What's sad and embarrassing is that you come here crying over Disney trying to buy your PS5 over a rumor from a site that made up a click bait article to gain 10 visits.

Damn, we have a lot more Disney buttlickers here than I thought. Don't you people ever grow up and realize their films just aren't that great?

Fantasia was a load of bollix by the way!

South Park Insult GIF by Much


I just love South Parks impression of Disney. So funny.

What if? What if Marvel didn't suck?

Seriously though Shang Chi is the next Shawshank Redemption. Did you see Awkwafina the racist is in it?

Edit: I always embarrass myself, that is nothing new..... enjoy the show!
 
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Outpost #31

Member
Sony should offer Disney the movie rights to Spider-Man in exchange for the exclusive gaming rights to the rest of the Marvel characters.
Agreed!
Been saying this for a while now, too.

Both Spider-Man games have been fantastic imo.

Disney/Marvel probably think they can make more if most of their characters are on multiple platforms and they're probably right but seeing how The Avengers game turned out... Pfffff

That guardians game looks/sounds pretty good though (so far at least imo) so who knows. I'll probably give that a shot seeing as it's a single player story driven game.
 

Hobbygaming

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I wish this would happen (Disney buying spidey) so the games can go multiplatform, i miss the old spidey games.
But everyone with a single braincell understands they are not going or even trying to buy Sony.
On top of that Japan would never allow this takeover to happen.
The new Spider-man games are way better
 
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