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Disney going ahead with Toy Story 3 without Pixar
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LinesInTheSand
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Worst news ever.
Kobun Heat
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I'm guessing you missed Lion King Part V: Simba's Straight To DVD Adventure?olimario said:
pestul said:
From IGN FilmForce:
Q. Will you be involved in the Toy Story sequels Disney is planning without Pixar?
HANKS: I don't know. The creative team that put together the original Toy Story movies was very specific and quite organic, I think, to the success of the process, not that there aren't other talented people that would be involved. But I don't know. That would be a bridge to cross when I come to it
Shogmaster
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G4life98 said:
What the hell would that solve? The reason Pixar does so well is that Jobs never gets involved in day to day. He rarley even sets foot in his Pixar offices.
The creative atmosphere in Pixar is what makes the studio a success. Jobs might not be involved with the films directly, but he understands creativity and gave it an environment to develop unhindered. Pixar can't be where it is without Jobs. He surely can't be CEO of Disney, Pixar and Apple at the same time though.
Ned Flanders
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If they're gonna dump the creators, they should at least take the movie some other direction...like say..
Eh??
I mean come on..if you were 10 when you saw the first on, you're 19 now. Don't you think the series should grow up along with you?
Not to mention that, with all new characters (like Molly, seen above), you won't have to cry your way through Treat Williams and Bobcat Goldthwait's butchered replacement voice overs for Woody and Buzz!! A winner is you!
Eh??
I mean come on..if you were 10 when you saw the first on, you're 19 now. Don't you think the series should grow up along with you?
Not to mention that, with all new characters (like Molly, seen above), you won't have to cry your way through Treat Williams and Bobcat Goldthwait's butchered replacement voice overs for Woody and Buzz!! A winner is you!
Actually, it might suck more to be Pixar, which is in danger of having its reputation damaged by crappy Disney-made sequels that will nevertheless be associated with Pixar. It's not over, though.speedpop said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/15/business/media/15pixar.html
Smiles and Cries
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can Disney also fuck with The Incredibles?
Forgotten Ancient
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Please tell me Treat Williams was just a joke. I guess he's in some show called "Everwood" (Don't watch TV) but he is quite literally the lamest guy in the movie industry. I remember going to the video store my friend worked at and seeing his face and name on all kinds of generic sequels. The kinds that only show up on Showtime at 3a.m. because it's rated TV Mature and has "Nudity, Adult Content, And Strong Sexual Content". Titties are good, but Treat sucks. His name is TREAT for christ's sake.
/Treat Williams rant.
Forgotten Ancient
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"Somebody poisoned the water hole!"
That would suck if they went ahead without Pixar -- I think it's a bad idea. Plus, I agree with FoneBone in the potential damage it could cause Pixar just by pure association. I'd hate to have a perfect track record ruined my over-zealous creatively-spent Disney Execs looking to make a quick buck.
But anyway -- woohoo! I work in Glendale and I'm already trying to work my way into DreamWorks (located across the train tracks). Now all we need is a secondary Pixar Studio in the vicinity and I'll have an interesting time carting my portfolio around during lunch =P
But anyway -- woohoo! I work in Glendale and I'm already trying to work my way into DreamWorks (located across the train tracks). Now all we need is a secondary Pixar Studio in the vicinity and I'll have an interesting time carting my portfolio around during lunch =P
Toy Story wasn't part of the 5 picture deal. They signed a deal after Toy Story for 5 pictures, and then Eisner managed to somehow work it so that sequels didn't count, which caught Pixar in a tough position. Disney owns own everything about the Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and Cars properties.Timbuktu said:
I love how Disney been playing the Toy Story sequel card though. I follow them pretty close since I've historically loved what they've done and I'm a stockholder, and they're just so shrewd and evil with regard to Pixar's properties. Over the last year, every single time news about Pixar hits the major papers, Disney releases statements of its own the next day. Back in the spring when Pixar announced it was no longer negotiating with Disney, Disney announced the very next day that it was planning Toy Story 3. Then in October, after I think just some general news articles about Pixar's Incredibles and financial success, Disney announced it was planning not just Toy Story 3 but also a fourth and had writers currently working on them. Now, a day after stories about Pixar's huge success with The Incredibles, latest financial situation and Jobs' comments about waiting as long as possible to strike a deal, Disney lashes out again saying they're ramping up the production team for Toy Story 3 and hiring throughout the industry. It's so devilish. Disney knows they can do whatever the hell they want with all of Pixar's film properties, and they keep throwing that in Lasseter's face. It's really evil to leverage that kind of creative control for the sake of business.
The next year will be real interesting as Pixar's going to have to start seriously looking at who their distributor will be, especially with the talk that they want to start releasing all their movies during the summer starting with Ratatouille in 2006.
psycho_snake
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I don't folow these things too closely, so I'm not too sure what exactly the situation is. the last time I heard, Pixar anen't going to renew a contract with Disney. Why are they not going to do it and if they don't, where will Pixar go?
In yesterday's New York Times, Steve Jobs was reported to consider Warner Bros and Twentieth Century Fox to have the distributing power to replace Disney.psycho_snake said:
As for why Pixar looks to be leaving, well, they have a really unfavorable deal with Disney. From what I've read, Pixar and Disney split the financing of the films (not sure if it's even), then split profits from the theatrical release except Disney gets a larger cut for distribution costs. They also apparently split home video revenue evenly. I can't find confirmation, but if I recall right, Disney also somehow makes back the entire cost of the film, and then after that, that's when Pixar and Disney start splitting profits. Disney also owns the properties, and can milk them all they want with additional films, television shows, toys, and amusement park attractions. Disney makes out like a bandit, and all they do is distribute the films and co-finance. Pixar does all the work.
Oh, and to correct my above post, apparently Ratatouille has been delayed at least into 2007.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Well, that helped, thanks dan.............and willco
Spiritreaver
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This is possibly the worst news I've come across all year. 
Horrible, and the two films are my favorite films out of Pixar. I don't have much hope that Disney can do anything good with it alone, but ugh... maybe we'll get lucky! <insert rolleyes here>
Horrible, and the two films are my favorite films out of Pixar. I don't have much hope that Disney can do anything good with it alone, but ugh... maybe we'll get lucky! <insert rolleyes here>
No pics or concept art yet, and we probably won't have any for a long time with the delay to 2007. Pixar keeps their upcoming stuff even more secret than Disney.WordofGod said:
Ratatouille is about a rat in an upscale Parisian restaurant with an eccentric chef. It's being directed by Jan Pinkava, who directed Pixar's Geri's Game short.
I've been distracting myself all day by researching Disney's upcoming animated lineup, and a couple of their cancelled projects, and came across a report saying Tom Hanks and Tim Allen were, unofficially, pretty pissed off about how Disney was leveraging Toy Story 3 back when it was first announced in the spring. It seems like they didn't take kindly to being brought into the middle of the battle between Eisner and Jobs, so that gives me some hope that they wouldn't agree to do voice work if Pixar isn't in creative control. Can't say I blame them either, that's a real messy position to be in, which probably explains why Hanks is just being as polite and noncommittal about the whole thing when he's on the record.
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