Support NeoGAF

[Amiga]

Disney lost about %50 over a year, and 10% over the last 5 years. The company loss rate is double that of overall market trend.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investors-walt-disney-nyse-dis-112615996.html

Technically not broke because of the deep pockets, but losing 100 billion out of your market cap gotta hurt.

 

[nush]

get woke... not yet broke.

 

[Umbasaborne]

I think disney plus was a mistake in the long run, i dont know if they will ever make the box office money they were raking in again if people are content to wait until it hits the service

 

[Umbasaborne]

get woke... not yet broke.

Yes, because disney made films and shows about minorities or the lgbtq community, thats why the world has turned on them…grow up.

 

[ManaByte]

get woke... not yet broke.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I think disney plus was a mistake in the long run, i dont know if they will ever make the box office money they were raking in again if people are content to wait until it hits the service

Nah they surely make waaaaay more money on monthly subs than hit or miss feature film releases. They did severely fuck up their parks and their shift from family friendly to man-children content doesn’t help either.

 

[sol_bad]

I think disney plus was a mistake in the long run, i dont know if they will ever make the box office money they were raking in again if people are content to wait until it hits the service

Did you not know Multiverse of Madness made over 940 million at the box office?
The only mistake they made with Disney+ was releasing the last 3 Pixar movies there instead of theatrically.

 

[nush]

Yes, because disney made films and shows about minorities or the lgbtq community, thats why the world has turned on them…grow up.

I'm sorry I criticized your girlfriend.

 

[Umbasaborne]

I'm sorry I criticized your girlfriend.

Im sure your mother will forgive you

 

[Amiga]

Did you not know Multiverse of Madness made over 940 million at the box office?
The only mistake they made with Disney+ was releasing the last 3 Pixar movies there instead of theatrically.

D+ should just have been for the backlog and TV series.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Who are the people in charge of Disney today? Why do they seem incompetent ?

They don't do Star Wars sequels well, they destroy movies with inclusions.

The series they do are boring with a high budget.

Seriously, if Disney were to come back to life and see everything they're doing and the Lightyear thing, I bet he be beyond furious and fire the people involved.

 

[newtypepilot]

this means they'll gouge the park goers even more to recoup their losses hahaha

 

[bitbydeath]

It’s probably a good time to buy shares.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

this means they'll gouge the park goers even more to recoup their losses hahaha

Don't say that... because I do want to go to Disney soon.

 

[badblue]

Yes, because disney made films and shows about minorities or the lgbtq community,

Bit hypocritical of them to advocate for minorities and the lgbt+ community in the west and then cut said inclusive content from foreign markets. Sends a real message about what they stand for.

The problem is not so much them (disney) making inclusive content, it's how they are doing it. Pandering content is what they have been putting out instead of quality and that is pushing away the average consumer. People watch fictional TV shows and movies for escapism not to be preached at.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Not surprised

As I said Go Woke Go Broke

 

[sol_bad]

Bit hypocritical of them to advocate for minorities and the lgbt+ community in the west and then cut said inclusive content from foreign markets. Sends a real message about what they stand for.

The problem is not so much them (disney) making inclusive content, it's how they are doing it. Pandering content is what they have been putting out instead of quality and that is pushing away the average consumer. People watch fictional TV shows and movies for escapism not to be preached at.

I guess you didn't hear that Lightyear and Multiverse of Madness both refused any edits for international distribution causing those films to be banned in various countries?

 

[Aggrotek]

 

[Scotty W]

They don’t mind lightyear flopping so much cuz in the end, it is good for their esg score

 

[belmarduk]

Disney lost about %50 over a year, and 10% over the last 5 years. The company loss rate is double that of overall market trend.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investors-walt-disney-nyse-dis-112615996.html

Technically not broke because of the deep pockets, but losing 100 billion out of your market cap gotta hurt.

All entertainment companies should be like in Saudi Arabia, huh?

 

[Lord Panda]

I’m guessing Disney Plus price hikes incoming

 

[chromhound]

Smell like price hike soon

 

[nush]

I’m guessing Disney Plus price hikes incoming

Disney have enough vocal fanboys that will be waiting to tell you "Why it's actually a good thing...".

 

[Mistake]

Given the current economic climate, I don’t think most people are eying a trip to disneyland. Even Bezos spoke up on how bad things are getting

 

[Melon Husk]

Time to bring back the Disney dollar

 

[ManaByte]

Yes, because disney made films and shows about minorities or the lgbtq community, thats why the world has turned on them…grow up.

No it is 100% because Chapek took a controversial political stand (something Iger NEVER did) in order to curry favor with a workforce that will never love him the way they loved his predecessor. And I mean that, people at Disney loved Iger in an "uncle Walt" way, and he was the first CEO since Walt to be seen that way. No one wanted Iger to leave and most people didn't want Chapek to take over.

Chapek is desperate for the company to look at him the way they did Iger and it'll never happen. So when a very vocal activist minority in the company began to stop their feet and suck their thumbs, Chapek kneeled before them and spread their BS. It damaged the company and it'll take years for them to recover just from the PR stain it caused.

Chapek is done in March, his contract won't be extended all the time like Iger's was.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Disney have enough vocal fanboys that will be waiting to tell you "Why it's actually a good thing...".

Lol I'm a big fan of their stuff and I always said I didn't like this woke direction they have been going towards for the past 2 to 4 years. I was right about them losing money

 

[NickFire]

It’s bad business to rub huge swaths of the population wrong chasing praise primarily from loud social media people who have moral superiority complexes. It really is that simple.

 

[haxan7]

It’s not good to see major American corporations lose so much value. I hope they can turn it around in the coming years.

 

[AJUMP23]

I brought this up in the light year thread. Some fool called me a bigot.

 

[Batiman]

Yes, because disney made films and shows about minorities or the lgbtq community, thats why the world has turned on them…grow up.

Seriously. These people blame woke for everything. NBA, NFL and now Disney. Lmao

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

It’s not good to see major American corporations lose so much value. I hope they can turn it around in the coming years.

I hope so too but I doubt it, they are most likely going to double down on the woke/feminazi agenda.

 

[nush]

I hope so too but I doubt it, they are most likely going to double down on the woke/feminazi agenda.

Nope, the pendulums been swinging back to center since the start of the year. Those that claim a bias wasn't there are getting scared now.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Nope, the pendulums been swinging back to center since the start of the year. Those that claim a bias wasn't there are getting scared now.

What do you mean?

 

[NickFire]

What do you mean?

I think he means people tried downplaying certain trends as not being trends at all. And now they’re grasping at straws but failing miserably at convincing people they have lying eyes.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I think he means people tried downplaying certain trends as not being trends at all. And now they’re grasping at straws but failing miserably at convincing people they have lying eyes.

Yeah and it's funny to see since Disney Core Audience is Conservative Christian families.

The audience they are trying to court is the Feminazi woke Audience that hate their guts and won't spend a dime on them even if they start to aim their stuff at them. It's bad business in general

 

[Yoda]

Broader market is down as well, but they are trending below that. Given how hard Netflix was punished for running out of new users to acquire, if Disney don't keep their number up I suspect they'll get punished even further.

 

[nush]

I think he means people tried downplaying certain trends as not being trends at all. And now they’re grasping at straws but failing miserably at convincing people they have lying eyes.

Correct. I think it peaked at The Eternals, but it was probably something else.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Correct. I think it peaked at The Eternals, but it was probably something else.

What trends?

 

[SentientStone]

I am not into most Disney content as I feel they are too produced according to the template. I currently got a free annual Disney plus sub that I barely use. I only use it to stream old Simpsons and Bob’s Burger episodes essentially.

If I had kids I can see the value of it though as I want to indoctrinate them with the right values. Lol

 

[badblue]

I guess you didn't hear that Lightyear and Multiverse of Madness both refused any edits for international distribution causing those films to be banned in various countries?

Does that somehow change or excuse them for doing it previously?

 

[HoodWinked]

The behavior of the Disney execs has been deranged lately but the drop in value isn't so much because of it. Broadly everything is down. Warner, Spotify, Netflix all down even more.

 

[daffyduck]

I brought this up in the light year thread. Some fool called me a bigot.

That sounds like someone from Reee.

 

[sol_bad]

Does that somehow change or excuse them for doing it previously?

I mean if they are learning from previous mistakes, isn't that a good thing?

 

[Jinzo Prime]

DISNEY SHOULD BUY SQUARE-ENIX!​

​

Ahem. Sorry for yelling but this tread will be locked just like the other one if we keep bitching about gays and woke.

Now, I believe that Disney is has missed out one of the most performant and fastest growing forms of mass media: videogames and interactive experiences which is contributing to its lost market value. Disney should buy an undervalued gaming asset with high potential IPs like Square, EA, Sega, Konami, Ubisoft, ect, and unlock that value with movies, shows, theme parks, and merch, while they unlock value for Disney IPs with games.

TLDR: woke dosn't equal broke, bad business and missed opportunities equals broke.

 

[badblue]

I mean if they are learning from previous mistakes, isn't that a good thing?

How much "learning" are they going to gain from stopping doing something they were telling everyone else was bad?

 

[nush]

Now, I believe that Disney is has missed out one of the most performant and fastest growing forms of mass media: videogames and interactive experiences which is contributing to is lost market value.

They tried and failed.

Disney Shuts Down Console Video Game Publishing Arm, Cancels 'Disney Infinity'

The company admits the business is worth less than it hoped, swallowing a $147 million charge

www.thewrap.com

 

[nush]

How much "learning" are they going to gain from stopping doing something they were telling everyone else was bad?

This a sol Bad MCU fanboy who claims Disney didn't make anything bad. He'll twist himself into a pretzel to "both sides" this.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I mean if they are learning from previous mistakes, isn't that a good thing?

Sometimes people don't deserve to be forgiven

 

[Amiga]

I hope so too but I doubt it, they are most likely going to double down on the woke/feminazi agenda.

Netflix seems to be doing a reflection. maybe other are also waking back quietly. will take a while before this is reflected on output that has already been a long way into production.