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[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Netflix seems to be doing a reflection. maybe other are also waking back quietly. will take a while before this is reflected on output that has already been a long way into production.

Personally I have a issue with WB and Disney. I hope these 2 companies learn their lesson but I highly doubt it. The woke/feminazi content coming from these 2 has been obnoxious to watch. It looks like both are just going to double down.

 

[nush]

Sometimes people don't deserve to be forgiven

They hold too much IP I like.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

They hold too much IP I like.

So?

WB does too?

I have an equal amount of issues with Disney and WB. Not just Disney

 

[Craig of War]

Phil Spencer licking his lips he been wanting to buy Disney for years

 

[Rykan]

Not surprised

As I said Go Woke Go Broke

Disney is an incredibly complex company that is invested in many completely different businesses and markets, but leave it up to the anime avatars to scream "Go WoKe Go BrOkE" as if they have any fucking insight on the financial situation of Disney. Completely detached from reality.

 

[nush]

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Disney is an incredibly complex company that is invested in many completely different businesses and markets, but leave it up to the anime avatars to scream "Go WoKe Go BrOkE" as if they have any fucking insight on the financial situation of Disney. Completely detached from reality.

You are the one detached from reality. The SJW/Feminazi shit has ruined Marvel, DC, Star Wars, etc. There's a reason why Disney, WB, Netflix etc are doing badly, it's because of the political agenda being pushed down peoples throats.

 

[StateofMajora]

I brought this up in the light year thread. Some fool called me a bigot.

Well. He does get a lot of headaches.

 

[nush]

So?

WB does too?

I have an equal amount of issues with Disney and WB. Not just Disney

I'd prefer those IP's to be used and active with the budgets to do them justice.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I'd prefer those IP's to be used and active with the budgets to do them justice.

 

[Porcile]

Banking on online services seems like a bad call in the long run. Eventually they will run out of interested people, and once people unsubscribe then the likelihood of them coming back is practically zero. I mean, in the case Facebook, I don't know anyone who deleted their account and then came back. People just move on.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Banking on online services seems like a bad call in the long run. Eventually they will run out of interested people, and once people unsubscribe then the likelihood of them coming back is practically zero. I mean, in the case Facebook, I don't know anyone who deleted their account and then came back. People just move on.

I used to have Facebook. I deleted my account 5 years ago like I did with all of my social media accounts and haven't felt interested in signing up ever again

 

[theclaw135]

All the talent in the world can't salvage hack scriptwriters, or the bosses who pay and greenlight them. The company's entire board of directors should've been barred from the film industry on the spot for approving a script busted as Rise of Skywalker.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

All the talent in the world can't salvage hack scriptwriters, or the bosses who pay and greenlight them. The company's entire board of directors should've been barred from the film industry on the spot for approving a script busted as Rise of Skywalker.

I would say they shouldn't have hired J J "I'm a pretentious moron" Abrams at all. The Force Awakens sucks

Disney should have just adapted the Expanded Universe but I'm guessing they didn't because they are cheap greedy Bastards who didn't want to pay the creators of the Expanded Universe any money.

Also I heard a rumor that they might be bringing in Yuuzhan Vong in future Star Wars stories. I hope not, knowing Disney they will fuck it up.

I love The New Jedi Order Series

 

[MaestroMike]

 

[theclaw135]

I liked the premise The Force Awakens initially lead audiences to believe. I figured they'd run with the angle that the occasional unexpected birth of a force-wielder was an event rare enough to shake up galactic history. Plus to me, destroying the Death Star wasn't enough to end the war. Imperial remnants sweeping in to fill the power vacuum was the only storytelling that made sense in context.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I liked the premise The Force Awakens initially lead audiences to believe. I figured they'd run with the angle that the occasional unexpected birth of a force-wielder was an event rare enough to shake up galactic history. Plus to me, destroying the Death Star wasn't enough to end the war. Imperial remnants sweeping in to fill the power vacuum was the only storytelling that made sense in context.

Eh wasn't a fan. Especially since J J was the one involved in the film

 

[nush]

I liked the premise The Force Awakens initially lead audiences to believe. I figured they'd run with the angle that the occasional unexpected birth of a force-wielder was an event rare enough to shake up galactic history. Plus to me, destroying the Death Star wasn't enough to end the war. Imperial remnants sweeping in to fill the power vacuum was the only storytelling that made sense in context.

It started well enough, not having the trilogy planned out at all was a massive mistake. It like they were purposely trying to kill one of the biggest franchises of all time, thinking they could just phone it in.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

It started well enough, not having the trilogy planned out at all was a massive mistake. It like they were purposely trying to kill one of the biggest franchises of all time, thinking they could just phone it in.

No it wasn't. It was as phoned in as The Last Jedi and The Rise of The Skywalker

 

[ManaByte]

It started well enough, not having the trilogy planned out at all was a massive mistake. It like they were purposely trying to kill one of the biggest franchises of all time, thinking they could just phone it in.

You mean how George Lucas did with the other two trilogies?

 

[nush]

You mean how George Lucas did with the other two trilogies?

Depends if you belive George's claims of having the whole thing planned out from the start or did he walk that back?

 

[ManaByte]

Depends if you belive George's claims of having the whole thing planned out from the start or did he walk that back?

Was never true. Was marketing BS. There are whole books with detailed transcriptions of story meetings and scripts that show all of it was made up as they went along. Vader wasn’t the father until the 2nd draft of Empire, Leia wasn‘t the sister until Lucas was served with divorce papers, etc.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

They tried and failed.

Disney Shuts Down Console Video Game Publishing Arm, Cancels 'Disney Infinity'

The company admits the business is worth less than it hoped, swallowing a $147 million charge

www.thewrap.com

Interactive experiences are the future of entertainment. I believe their shareholders will push them back into gaming, they already have some of the highest grossing mobile games, but they share that revenue with outside developers. Why not bring all that back in-house to add value to your subscription service, and use big budget titles to take even more mindshare for your IPs?

 

[nush]

Was never true. Was marketing BS. There are whole books with detailed transcriptions of story meetings and scripts that show all of it was made up as they went along. Vader wasn’t the father until the 2nd draft of Empire, Leia wasn‘t the sister until Lucas was served with divorce papers, etc.

He winged it better than Disney anyway.

 

[ManaByte]

He winged it better than Disney anyway.

Like when Leia remembered her mother but then he killed her in childbirth in Episode III?

Or when he had to pay for a reshoot scene to film Obi-Wan picking up Anakin‘s saber on Mustafar because he forgot he gave it to Luke in ANH when he filmed the movie?

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Like when Leia remembered her mother but then he killed her in childbirth in Episode III?

Or when he had to pay for a reshoot scene to film Obi-Wan picking up Anakin‘s saber on Mustafar because he forgot he gave it to Luke in ANH when he filmed the movie?

Still better than the Sequel Trilogy

 

[Elysion]

The reason the original trilogy worked so well despite the lack of planning and George’s amateurish writing skills was because it was a pretty simple story based on classical archetypes and tropes. On paper, the original movies look almost painfully safe and tropey, especially by today’s standards; but that’s exactly why they stood the test of time. It’s basically a cliché fantasy story with a sci-fi coat of paint. The original trilogy speaks to us on a basic, almost primal level; Luke’s path in those movies feels right and natural to us. LotR is similar in this regard; that story too will always be remembered due to its strong adherence to classical archetypes, which gives it an almost mythical quality.

Neither the Star Wars prequel trilogy nor the Disney sequels are like that. They are based on pure spectacle, and often try to be clever and subversive, and thus don’t really speak to the audience on a primal level. They feel way too ‘prosaic’, for lack of a better word. Controversially I think ASoIaF, while much better written than Star Wars, too suffers from this to some extent. I doubt people in a hundred years will remember ASoIaF to the same extent as they do LotR.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

The reason the original trilogy worked so well despite the lack of planning and George’s amateurish writing skills was because it was a pretty simple story based on classical archetypes and tropes. On paper, the original movies look almost painfully safe and tropey, especially by today’s standards; but that’s exactly why they stood the test of time. It’s basically a cliché fantasy story with a sci-fi coat of paint. The original trilogy speaks to us on a basic, almost primal level; Luke’s path in those movies feels right and natural to us. LotR is similar in this regard; that story too will always be remembered due to its strong adherence to classical archetypes, which gives it an almost mythical quality.

Neither the Star Wars prequel trilogy nor the Disney sequels are like that. They are based on pure spectacle, and often try to be clever and subversive, and thus don’t really speak to the audience on a primal level. They feel way too ‘prosaic’, for lack of a better word. Controversially I think ASoIaF, while much better written than Star Wars, too suffers from this to some extent. I doubt people in a hundred years will remember ASoIaF to the same extent as they do LotR.

I already forgotten about LotR

 

[Flutta]

 

[reksveks]

The idea that Bob Iger wouldn't have criticised some of the bills in Florida is a bit funny but ehh.

Bob Iger on opposing the 'Don't Say Gay' bill: 'It's about right and wrong' | CNN Business

Former Disney CEO Bob Iger is breaking from his successor on Florida’s recently passed “Don’t Say Gay” law.

www.cnn.com

Anything to rationalise your view that the cause of the market cap drop is due to their political positions and not macro economics.

WBD also lost 50% of their share price (need to check if the number of shares are roughly the same)

 

[GymWolf]

 

[strange headache]

I brought this up in the light year thread. Some fool called me a bigot.

Still triggered about that lesbian kiss eh?

 

[nush]

Still triggered about that lesbian kiss eh?

Mate, you got triggered by Ms Marvel.

 

[Drew1440]

How long until Tencent buys them?

 

[FunkMiller]

Eh... I'd like to think Disney are suffering thanks to the endless, cynical, factory line trash they keep putting out... but the market is down across the board. In isolation, you could point to it being a singular issue with Disney, but they're all getting shit on at the moment.

 

[Airbus Jr]

I brought this up in the light year thread. Some fool called me a bigot.

Some ree people are creeping back on gaf ( and tried to influence some gaf posters back into their hivemind * some users here already turned ree) and stealthily/ slowly turn this place like era)

You know who those guys check and mark the username

 

[nush]

Some ree people are creeping back on gaf ( and tried to influence some gaf posters back into their hivemind and stealthily/ slowly turn this place like era)

You know who those guys check and mark the username

Letter poster, neo member, low post count and drive-by pearl-clutching "I can't believe GAF is like this" tone policing comments. They've got nobody left to argue with becuse the mods stamp out wrongthink in seconds, they miss that dopamine hit of calling someone an istaphobe incel.

 

[BaneIsPain]

It couldn't happen to a nicer company.

 

[thefool]

Sweet.

 

[winjer]

Several companies in the TV and cinema industry saw massive growth during lockdown.
The market is now adjusting back to normality, as people resume spending more time and money on outside activities, and less time on indoor entertainment.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

Pretty soon they'll pull their trump card and thaw out Walt's corpse underneath Disney World in one of their bomb shelter facilities and we'll be blessed by 100 golden years of quality animation, traditional storytelling, nuclear families, and absolutely rampant racism. He'll see the first Star Wars movie and immediately sell the franchise to a middle aged white dude for $25, then He'll piss all over the masters of the live action Disney remakes.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Oh no.... Anyway.

 

[WoJ]

I haven't looked at their Financials, but didn't Dr. Strange make almost a billion dollars? Disney Plus is making a lot of money. Markets in general are down over 20% for the year. A depressed stock price doesn't mean their broke.....heck, it could mean it's a great time to buy and make some money. They've no doubt had some backlash (well deserved in my opinion) from their foray into political topics and had some movies that haven't done quite as well. I hate woke shit as much as the next person, but Disney will be fine.

 

[LordCBH]

Disney brought it on themselves. One day they’ll see the error of their ways and fire all the children and get back to making great content people want.

 

[Interfectum]

Disney is an incredibly complex company that is invested in many completely different businesses and markets, but leave it up to the anime avatars to scream "Go WoKe Go BrOkE" as if they have any fucking insight on the financial situation of Disney. Completely detached from reality.

"Go woke, go broke" is no doubt a shitty right wing meme that likes to stamp down any inclusiveness but... I do think there is a case with Disney for them swinging a little too hard for the left fences and it's biting them in the ass. A lot of their newer content seems to have outright contempt for their core audience. I'm going through a lot of the newer MCU shit to catch up and I'm shocked how heavy handed and on the nose it is compared to the older movies.

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[MastaKiiLA]

There are so many market factors at play here, that it's idiotic to distill it to some perceived agenda. That kind of thinking grossly overvalues the number of people who give any kind of shit about it, and undervalues what most people would consider to have been a fucking chaotic timeframe. Let's revisit this thread in 5 years, when Disney+ is sitting at the top of the streaming pile with Netflix, and the Marvel machine continues to print money. It's confirmation bias at its worst.

 

[mcjmetroid]

Seriously has there ever been an example of woke culture and products translating into more profits?

What are they doing?

 

[Interfectum]

There are so many market factors at play here, that it's idiotic to distill it to some perceived agenda. That kind of thinking grossly overvalues the number of people who give any kind of shit about it, and undervalues what most people would consider to have been a fucking chaotic timeframe. Let's revisit this thread in 5 years, when Disney+ is sitting at the top of the streaming pile with Netflix, and the Marvel machine continues to print money. It's confirmation bias at its worst.

The Bad Guys will end up grossing more domestically than a Pixar spin-off of fucking Toy Story. There is zero doubt that has to do with Disney pissing off Christian conservatives (also known as their core audience).

 

[MastaKiiLA]

The Bad Guys will end up grossing more domestically than a Pixar spin-off of fucking Toy Story. There is zero doubt that has to do with Disney pissing off Christian conservatives (also known as their core audience).

No...it really fucking doesn't. You can't possibly extrapolate that kind of information from the information that is publicly known. You got some exit polling to support that claim? You're looking at the timing of this, and comparing it to media outlets driving certain stories at that time, but you seem completely blind to everything else going on in the world and economy at the same time. That and Disney has been releasing stuff that's objectively bad. Reboots to classics, that no one ever asked for, and this particular film is about a fictional film that a popular fictional toy was based on, who displays none of the goofy/charming characteristics that made the fictional toy popular. This is the most meta spinoff Disney's ever cobbled together, and it assumed that Buzz Lightyear's name was going to be enough to carry the film.

You're welcome to jump to wild conclusions though, because no one is going to take you to task for being wrong when Disney is minting money in 5 years, while copy-pasta-ing the same storylines they have been for the past forever years now. Why would Lightyear be the straw that broke the camel's back, when Disney has been banking heavy on inclusion for far, far longer than that? Who knows? Maybe this one will come true before Netflix eventually folds. That was another company that was doomed based on the opinions of an overconfident fringe.