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Disney to spend $1 BILLION to fix California Adventure; park cost $650m to build

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ManaByte

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http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al071707a.htm

Earlier this year we broke the news on the proposal that Bob Iger was going to take to the Board of Directors on the future direction for Anaheim, and that decision was formally made earlier this month after the Board mulled over the plans and proposals. While the final budget wasn't the shoot-for-the-stars 1.5 billion plan that John Lasseter encouraged Imagineering (WDI) to dream up, the Board did plunge right in and approve right around one billion dollars in improvements and additions for California Adventure (DCA) into early next decade. The end result is that the creative folks in WDI's Glendale headquarters are downright giddy, and the suits in Team Disney Anaheim (TDA) out back are just as giddy but slightly shell-shocked at the huge budget numbers that have been approved to fix DCA.

If you had tried to tell a TDA exec five years ago that Anaheim would be receiving this kind of huge capital investment so soon after the multi-billion dollar resort expansion of 1997-2001, they would have laughed you out of their yellow building. But along came the 50th in 2005 with huge profits and encouraging spending patterns that made Burbank sit up and take more notice of the "little theme park" down the freeway. As the wildly successful celebration rolled along, Disneyland cemented its new financial clout with Burbank execs with even stronger financial results in 2006.

Then came the corporate shake-up crafted by Bob Iger to divorce the Company from the biggest mistakes of the Eisner era, and in stepped Pixar's John Lasseter as Disneyland's favorite new uncle who was happy to lavish unprecedented political clout on the Anaheim property. It was a one-two punch of both financials and politics that vaulted the Disneyland Resort from an aging afterthought to a stylish flagship with untapped potential in the minds of key executives like Bob Iger and Parks chief Jay Rasulo.

Meanwhile, Lasseter happily keeps the bigwigs focused on Anaheim so they aren't too distracted by the continuing struggles in Hong Kong and Paris. Not since Walt visited Disneyland almost weekly in the 1950's and 60's has so much of Burbank's corporate attention been focused on Anaheim. And the new creative executive structure being put in place in Glendale with Lasseter's approval is designed to maintain that focus for the long term. As it currently stands, Lasseter has set up a system where a key WDI executive is in charge of each Anaheim park; Tony Baxter is now in charge of Disneyland, and Bob Weis is in charge of DCA.

Of course Tony Baxter is already well known. But Bob Weis may not be a familiar name to most West Coast Disney fans. Bob is a veteran Imagineer who was responsible for much of the initial design work on MGM Studios and the scuttled Disney's America park in Virginia (from which some concepts were borrowed and then stripped way down in quality for DCA). He struck out on his own and started a successful design firm once he saw the writing on the wall during the darkest years of the Eisner era, but kept his rolodex updated with Burbank and Glendale contacts.

It should be noted here that this single creative guru for each Anaheim park is a unique setup. As it currently stands, WDW has been assigned Tom Fitzgerald to oversee the Magic Kingdom, Epcot and the Studios park combined (look for even more exciting tile murals in Orlando folks), while Joe Rohde continues to oversee Animal Kingdom. Only in Anaheim do you have a celebrity heavy hitter overseeing each park, and with a budget that's bigger than Florida's planned investment no less. While Bob Weis may have a billion dollar budget to work with to fix DCA, trust us when we tell you that Tony Baxter isn't resting on his laurels when it comes to his future plans for Disneyland, but more on that in a moment.

It can't be understated that this huge sum of money to fix DCA has the potential to make a bigger impact on Anaheim by early next decade than the entire Resort expansion of 2001 did. The billion dollar plan doesn't even include the normal investment and spending that is already heading to Anaheim for Disneyland itself, and the existing money-making properties that are receiving separate budgets like the huge rehab of the Disneyland Hotel, the upcoming Downtown Disney expansion, and the DVC units at the Grand Californian.

DCA only cost something between $650 and $700 million to build in the first place (the entire resort conversion was about $1.4 billion), so they're spending nearly twice what the park cost to build to improve it.

In Lasseter we trust.
 

jetjevons

Bish loves my games!
Since I already love DCA (alcohol + Bugs Life + Tower of Terror + Rollercoaster + white water rapids ride + soarin' over california + waaaaay better food than Disney Land) I'm happy about this news.
 

aparisi2274

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GitarooMan said:
Wish they would throw some of that money Disney World's way...

YEAH!!!

I know lasseter is an Anaheim local, and grew up at Disneyland, but come on man dont neglect WDW... They get more visitors per year than DL will ever get..
 

No6

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FYI, a big part of the costs are due to the significant increase in the price of materials since DCA was built. EVERYTHING is more expensive to build these days.
 

yayaba

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Cool. I've never been to that park so hopefully next time I make it down there, I can get a park hopper and do both.
 

EktorPR

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This

GitarooMan said:
Wish they would throw some of that money Disney World's way...

and this

aparisi2274 said:
I know lasseter is an Anaheim local, and grew up at Disneyland, but come on man dont neglect WDW... They get more visitors per year than DL will ever get..

is the uncontrovertible truth. I love Disney Parks and Lasseter as much as anyone, but Walt Disney World deserves better treatment...after all, its in the same ****ing company. Why this "war" against Florida?!
 

ManaByte

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From the same link:

The controversy over the Year Of A Million Dreams campaign and the Where Dreams Come True campaign decor is just the latest example of Rasulo's new global corporate structure for the Parks & Resorts division causing more problems than it's worth. The whole global setup has now had a few years to gel, and it's just not working very well. In a crazy spiderweb of corporate org charts, middle managers in Anaheim now report directly to senior managers in Orlando working for lower executives in Orlando who have a dotted line to a similar executive back in Anaheim who then reports to Ed Grier who reports to Al Weiss out in Orlando whom the original Orlando executive already reports to directly. Confused? You aren't alone.

The end result is that cross-country travel between the two properties has quadrupled in the last three years as thousands of middle managers and executives now shuttle to meetings where they usually end up beating their head against the wall because the two properties are not nearly as similar as Rasulo thinks they are. Jay can go up to six months at a time without stepping foot in any single Disney theme park he oversees, and his sheer ignorance when it comes to their operation is now legendary amongst his troops. Yet somehow he became convinced that they could all be operated the same way. Meanwhile, the company is spending a skyrocketing amount of money on cross-country plane fare and hotel rooms for visiting managers who no longer have bosses that work in the same time zone.

If there is one good thing to come out of this Byzantine corporate structure is that the Floridians are gaining a newfound respect for the higher standards that have been restored at Disneyland. The average Floridian's belief that they were a better property simply because they had more land is falling to the wayside with each visit, especially when it comes to their daily upkeep and annual maintenance schedules in the parks. The fact that WDW folks now visit Disneyland regularly is a huge change from just a few years ago.

Just last week the Vice President of the Magic Kingdom and his fellow marketing and attraction development executives paid yet another visit to Disneyland. This time they wanted to see the sharper and more polished work the Disneyland Entertainment department does with Disneyland's Princess Fantasy Faire, Jack Sparrow's popular stunt show on Pirate's Lair, and the Jedi Training Academy show at Tomorrowland Terrace.

Rides on Finding Nemo, Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain and Monsters Inc. were also on their requested itinerary, and they strolled through DCA in its current form as they also received an overview of the plans for the massive remake of that park on this visit.
 
This reminded me of one of my favorite SA articles of all time:

Celebrating Six Baffling Years: Disney's California Adventure
by Hassan "Acetone" Mikal



It's a very special day today. As you are probably well aware it's the 6th anniversary of Disney's California Adventure! You've no doubt been marking your calender, counting down the days to the celebration of the year. I'm so excited I can hardly contain myself!

For six years DCA, as it's colloquially known, has delighted millions of people young and old using the rich history of California as a canvas to paint magical images of the golden state. Ugh, give me a second to recover here. I've never been that sarcastic in my life and I think it made me kind of dizzy. It was on this day in 2001 that then CEO Michael Eisner dedicated Anaheim's second gate. He managed to say the following with a straight face.

To All who believe in the power of dreams... welcome. Here we pay tribute to the dreamers of the past... The native people, explorers, immigrants, aviators, entrepreneurs and entertainers who built the Golden State. And we salute a new generation of dreamers who are creating the wonders of tomorrow... From the silver screen to the computer screen... From the fertile farmlands to the far reaches of space. Disney's California Adventure celebrates the richness and the diversity of California... Its land, its people, its spirit and, above all, the dreams that it continues to inspire.


I wonder which secretary wrote that for him. To celebrate this very special day a number of events will be held at the park to commemorate the 6th anniversary. They include:

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As you can see it's going to be a very busy day for celebrations at DCA. I think Something Awful is going to be the only publication in the world to even mention California Adventure's 6th anniversary. Disney web sites aren't even talking about it. I don't think Disney itself is acknowledging the anniversary or that the park still exists. How did it ever come to this?

The underlying flaw of the park is that it's about California. The idea was that people who live in California would love to visit a theme park that dramatically depicts the vast and colorful history their state has to offer. Of course, Disney forgot the universal golden rule of life, that is, people hate where they live. It doesn't matter where they live, they will still complain.

If they live in the city they will complain about the traffic, the crime, and the noise. If they live in the suburbs they will complain about the lack of things to do, the lack of excitement, the lack of culture, and that bitch Sue on the homeowner's association who won't let them put a bird house in the tree on their front yard because it'll cause property values to plunge 31 cents. This is strictly a no bird house community! After spending six hours a day in the car commuting to and from work while dodging uninsured illegal aliens, naturally people want to spend their weekend learning about this wonderful state they love so much. The concept didn't exactly make waves.

The other demographic Disney hoped to attract were out of state tourists. The idea here was that instead of visiting California landmarks like Yosemite, San Francisco, and Hollywood separately, they would instead opt to go to California Adventure and get it all out of the way there. What a wonderful idea. Instead of seeing the majestic peaks of the high Sierras in all their glory people would settle for a fake mountain in the shape of a bear. I'm no marketing genius, but I don't think people want to drop three grand on a family vacation to ride a spinning swing ride inside of a giant orange peel. That just screams California! The park never became a draw for out of towners.

Another poorly executed aspect of the DCA feature set is that it was meant to be a park for the older crowd with more thrill rides and a less "kiddy" theme. They even serve alcohol in the park. Great, a $6 beer to go with absolutely nothing to do. Throughout the park you'll find stay at home and single mothers with a kid in one hand and a glass of wine in the other. Nothing says unhappy alcoholic housewife like being unable to resist the urge to drink with your kid at a theme park.

Really, if you ever find yourself in this house of horrors stop to watch the women sitting with their kids at the place that serves wine. The expressions on their faces are worth the price of admission alone. If you like to watch depressed women stuck with kids with no opportunity for advancement left in life, with their youth draining away with each screech of their bastard child, this is the place to go.

So who exactly was the park for then? Nobody knows for sure. It's like asking, why did the druids build Stonehenge? Experts (fat guys with computers who troll Disney newsgroups) hypothesize that Disney park planners wanted to concentrate less on attractions and more on shopping and dining, uhm, you know, like a mall. Disney parks aren't exactly known for their quality dining experience. Kids barely able to contain themselves in excitement don't mark up park maps days before their trip with the restaurants and shops they want to visit. "Oh, I can't wait until I get to go to Disneyland! First I'm gonna eat a $8 hamburger and then I'm gonna get a churro and then I'm gonna buy like 14 of those glow rings!" People go for the rides! That's the hook. Just remember the line from the oft-quoted Kevin Costner film, "Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!"

The most amazing thing about all of this is that the park doesn't even do the California theme justice. The "history" the park claims to inspire visitors with is contained in a 20 minute film hosted by a time traveling Whoopi Goldberg. The rest of the park is a bastardized version of California filled with bad puns.

Oh God the puns, the horrible, horrible puns. The park is riddled with them. It's like they turned GBS into a theme park. You'll see signs that say "Bear left" with an arrow and a bear because YOU'RE IN BEAR COUNTRY NOW. Test pilot turns into "taste pilot". Burbank Ice Cream turns into "Bur-r-r-r Bank Ice Cream". The Hollywood section has an "Award Wieners". There's even a place that sells shakes called San Andreas Shakes, based on the fault line that is responsible for the traumatizing earthquakes that haunt my dreams. Puns are the second lowest form of comedy right behind anything I've written for this site.

The park's reliance on C-grade celebrities within the Disney/ABC family is disgusting. Instead of seeing Goofy and Donald Duck you'll find the likes of Rosie O'Donnell and Colin Mochrie sharing hosting duties in a bread baking exhibit. The world of sourdough bread is just that exciting I know. Better buy an annual pass so I can see this yeast rising action again and again!

However, none of that compares to the horror that was Superstar Limo, the worst theme park attraction ever built. The idea was that you are a celebrity just getting off a plane in Los Angeles and have to be rushed to Hollywood. Along the way you see celebrities like an animatronic Tim Allen and the real Joan Rivers (she really needed the money). If I don't want to see them on TV why do I want to see them in a theme park ride? The ride lasted less than a year. Much like everything else in the park the cost cutting cheapness was embarrassingly blatant.

Despite these criticisms California Adventure continues to enjoy relatively high attendance. Attendance for DCA topped out at nearly 6 million in 2005, making it the 7th most visited theme park in North America and 12th in the world. These are numbers other Southern California parks would kill for. I guess sitting across from the greatest theme park in the world has its advantages. Even Nara Dreamland would be successful if it were sitting across from Disneyland and more fun than DCA even if those annoying people in the photos were there.

But when you break the numbers down DCA's attendance isn't all that impressive. It's actually just six guys who have annual passports that go over and over again. In fact many of the guests (Disney-speak for suckers) that visit DCA get in for free. That's right, even when they tack on admission for DCA to Disneyland tickets they can't match the 14 million visitors that Disneyland attracts. When offered California Adventure for free many resort visitors say, "You know, I'd rather not." What? You don't believe in the power of Californian dreams?! You... monster.

There is an urban legend about a man who bought a 1-day, 1-park ticket to California Adventure. They say his ghost walks the park every night after closing looking for his lost soul. Many say they have seen him in the park after dark while others deny that anybody has ever purchased a ticket to just DCA. The legends persist to this day...

California Adventure sits on the former site of the fabled Disneyland parking lot. Once a beautiful and awe-inspiring parking lot, its corpse now lies below a horrible theme park. Gone are the days of not knowing where the hell your car is after walking around for 18 hours in a 40 year old tourist trap and desperately wanting nothing more than to go home and jerk off in peace after your wife and kids go to sleep. So how does DCA compare to the 100 acre parking lot it replaced? Let's break it down.


# of places to park your car:

Disney's California Adventure: 0


old Disneyland parking lot: 15,167


As you can see the parking lot is the clear winner here.

Since many of those responsible for California Adventure have since left the company current management is left with the impossible task of fixing the park. Attractions such as the Tower of Terror, A Bug's Land, and Monsters Inc., all of which have absolutely nothing to do with California, are like a band-aid on a terminal patient. Disney recently announced Toy Story Mania!, which is currently being built at DCA, and rumors persist of an attraction based on Cars being added as well, turning the place into a sort of "Pixarland".

The end result has become a hilarious ironic twist, spending millions fixing a park that was built on the cheap to save money. Had they just dropped $3 billion on a park like Imagineering wanted to do they'd have one of the top 3 visited theme parks in the world on their hands. It's that kind of short-sightedness that has plagued the Disney company for the last decade.

That is why today we honor the man responsible for getting DCA built, Michael Eisner, who had the courage of his convictions to say, build it for less.

We salute you.


I've been to DisneyWorld 2 times in the last 2 years, and plan on returning this October, but have never been to Disneyland. I don't understand the crappy treatment WDW gets.
 
jetjevons said:
waaaaay better food than Disney Land

California Adventure doesn't have Bengal Barbeque, and thus, this part of your statement is so very, very wrong.

I forgot I got the recipe from Bengal, I need to make those spicy beef skewers next time I have guests....
 

woxel1

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There is an urban legend about a man who bought a 1-day, 1-park ticket to California Adventure. They say his ghost walks the park every night after closing looking for his lost soul. Many say they have seen him in the park after dark while others deny that anybody has ever purchased a ticket to just DCA. The legends persist to this day...
I remember laughing at that at the time, but then it happened to me...
 

SteveMeister

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gkrykewy said:
Disney Vacation Club at Disneyland please.

Well, you can use your DVC points to stay at the Grand Californian, Paradise Pier or Disneyland hotels. No kitchens or mult-bedroom suites, but it's still available.
 

ManaByte

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SteveMeister said:
Well, you can use your DVC points to stay at the Grand Californian, Paradise Pier or Disneyland hotels. No kitchens or mult-bedroom suites, but it's still available.

They're building a DVC expansion on the Grand Californian.
 

gkryhewy

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ManaByte said:
They're building a DVC expansion on the Grand Californian.

This is not confirmed yet, unfortunately, but I have my fingers crossed!

Stevemeister, those nightly point stays are unfortunately a rip-off in comparison to DVC properties (although not as much of a point-rip-off as using points on non-DVC WDW resorts).
 
Please pour more money into Disney World.

I'm not sure how I feel about the Four Seasons and the new retail/resort area near the Magic Kingdom. Low-ball Downtown Disney doesn't sound cool to me.

I'm glad we're getting Toy Story Mania, that's awesome, but please pour more money into WDW attractions. I love Lasseter, but he is far too focused on Disneyland because he grew up there. Disney World is the real bread and butter of the theme party division.
 

EktorPR

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I concur. Animal Kingdom became my favorite Disney park last year with the introduction of Expedition Everest and Finding Nemo: The Musical...but I want more. "Fix" MGM Studios (upgrade Star Tours and change the concept of the Indiana Jones show, more new rides and get that ****ing wizard's hat OUTTA' THERE!), rejuvenate Epcot and restore The Magic Kingdom to its original splendour. I'm glad they're doing all that in Cali since it's the original "Happiest Place on Earth", but don't forget about Disney World, which expanded the magic to virtually everywhere.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Spending this amount of money on two parks that could concievably fit in WDW's parking lot is kind of a slap in the face to the Florida parks. It would've been great to get the Nemo ride in Orlando, but instead - from what I've read, anyway - it seems that they just paved over the old 20,000 Leagues lagoon instead.

:(

(I'm glad I bought that retro ride poster for the attraction when I did. Someday it'll be the only proof the ride ever existed.)
 
They're currently upgrading the WDW Haunted Mansion (everybody who's gone this summer has thrown a shit fit over it) to look more like the Californian one (swapping the bride to be more horrific, updating those awful areas with just spiders on thread-webs, etc). There are also rumors that they may add some new things, such as more figures in the ballroom and better graveyard animatronics, although that's pending upon the budget being supplied, which doesn't seem to be much.

Spaceship Earth is also being updated, and will remain closed for renovations until mid-November. This may sound good to some, but part of the charm I enjoyed at Epcot was riding through the crazily outdated Spaceship Earth that goes from people talking on wall phones to kids speaking with their parents through telechat sets with no noticeable transition between.

Finally, I've heard rumors they may be closing Rock N Rollercoaster at MGM for renovations soon.

To be honest, I'd like to see WDW get a makeover to better resemble Disneyland Paris. The outer theming of DLP is superior and the rides are more intense (and thereby more modern). Can't say anything about the water parks since this October will be my first time visiting them, but I hear they're pretty great as is.
 

ghibli99

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xsarien said:
It would've been great to get the Nemo ride in Orlando, but instead - from what I've read, anyway - it seems that they just paved over the old 20,000 Leagues lagoon instead.
I'm still bitter about the Pooh ride we got in CA after riding the one at TDL. What a joke!

At any rate, I'm excited about the $1B overhaul.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
JzeroT1437 said:
They're currently upgrading the WDW Haunted Mansion (everybody who's gone this summer has thrown a shit fit over it) to look more like the Californian one (swapping the bride to be more horrific, updating those awful areas with just the spider on thread-webs, etc). There are also rumors that they may add some new things, although that's pending upon the budget being supplied, which doesn't seem to be much.

They're also updating Spaceship Earth, which will continue to be closed for renovations until mid-November. This may sound good to some, but part of the charm of Epcot was riding through the crazily outdated Spaceship Earth that goes from people talking on wall phones to kids speaking with their parents through telechat sets with no transition between.

Finally, I've heard rumors that they may be closing Rock N Rollercoaster at MGM for renovations soon.

To be honest, I'd like to see WDW get a makeover to better resemble Disneyland Paris. The outer theming of DLP is better and the rides are more intense (and thereby more modern). Can't say anything about the water parks since this October will be my first time visiting them, but I hear they're pretty great as is.

They better not touch EPCOT's theming. For all the hokey, old shit the parks still hold on to for reasons no greater than nostalgia, the whole "THIS IS WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE! (If you asked someone in 1985)" thing is just charming at this point.
 
xsarien said:
They better not touch EPCOT's theming. For all the hokey, old shit the parks still hold on to for reasons no greater than nostalgia, the whole "THIS IS WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE! (If you asked someone in 1985)" thing is just charming at this point.


Blame Siemens.

*snickers*
 

ManaByte

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The reason WDW doesn't get fixed up is not Lasseter's fault, and pointing fingers at him is just trying to pass the blame when people don't want to look at the real reasons for the park's neglect. Simply, there aren't 100,000 APs that go to WDW on a weekly basis and act as watchdogs for the park. There are in California, but Orlando gets more tourists and fewer regulars, so the complaints of a run down park fall of deaf ears in Orlando. As long as people continue to enter the park there, the clueless management that runs Orlando won't mention any problem to the higher ups to keep their cushy jobs as long as possible.
 

gkryhewy

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xsarien said:
They better not touch EPCOT's theming. For all the hokey, old shit the parks still hold on to for reasons no greater than nostalgia, the whole "THIS IS WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE! (If you asked someone in 1985)" thing is just charming at this point.

They're getting rid of the dumb "epcot" text on Spaceship Earth. The retro EPCOT emblem returns!
 
ManaByte said:
The reason WDW doesn't get fixed up is not Lasseter's fault, and pointing fingers at him is just trying to pass the blame when people don't want to look at the real reasons for the park's neglect. Simply, there aren't 100,000 APs that go to WDW on a weekly basis and act as watchdogs for the park. There are in California, but Orlando gets more tourists and fewer regulars, so the complaints of a run down park fall of deaf ears in Orlando. As long as people continue to enter the park there, the clueless management that runs Orlando won't mention any problem to the higher ups to keep their cushy jobs as long as possible.

That might be true, but there are a lot of people who go to WDW every year too--I actually go to Orlando ONLY to go to Disney--stay on the property and everything. I think the problem is more that people such as myself aren't close enough to make a stable push for improvement and are ignorant on how to do so.
 
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