They nerfed it too much. Damage basically halved for me + all those other nerfs for it.
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Divinity: Original Sin 2 |OT| Dragons & Dungeon Mastering
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They nerfed it too much. Damage basically halved for me + all those other nerfs for it.
Admiral Woofington
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I love rogue. I made a polymorph rogue and I can fly all over the place to backstab motherfuckers lol.
"Several inventory settings (filters and sorting) will now be saved"
Hallelujah! Did they ever implement that in the last game? Drove me nuts that I had to continually resort the inventory because it kept dumping new items at the end. New items are already being highlighted so there was no need for that!
Too bad there's no buff for the Leech talent. It sounds like the perfect talent for my necro/warfare undead guy but it's not very effective.
CrichtonKicks
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I haven't had any issues with survivability with my Rogue. With a judicious addition of a point in Strength here or there, I can wear some pretty nice armors and have a pretty hefty stack of both physical and magic armor.
Plus, chameleon , flight (since Poly pairs so well with a rogue) and the rogue teleoport skill make it easy to bail and/or hide if things get too hairy.
If you lose him part way through the quest (depending on how you going through it you might not need to see him until the end).
His map marker is accidentally hidden (i think) by the travel portal on top deck of the ship.
CrichtonKicks
Member
I just find it super weird how
He and Alexander disappear after the ship battle but, near as I can tell, no one comments on where they went. I thought my game was bugged coming out of the Hall of Echoes.
I assume that Alexander shows up somewhere as well?
I assume that Alexander shows up somewhere as well?
Lanrutcon
Member
Those are all great, and a ranged character needs to do maybe 1/4th of that because he's 20 feet away sitting 2 floors up spending 100% of his AP on damage and nothing else. Rogues are viable, Ranged is just better. I'm sure I could have completed my game with my Rogue, but it's easier to turn him into a pewpew from a stabstab
Also, special arrows > grenades because they convert the entire weapon attack into the element, but that's another discussion.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I think making so many skills dependant on physical/magical shield is a pain. Particularly because you rarely encounter, at least for me right now, enemies who only have one armor type.
Certain skills shouldn't depend on armor.
Certain skills shouldn't depend on armor.
CrichtonKicks
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Those are all great, and a ranged character needs to do maybe 1/4th of that because he's 20 feet away sitting 2 floors up spending 100% of his AP on damage and nothing else. Rogues are viable, Ranged is just better. I'm sure I could have completed my game with my Rogue, but it's easier to turn him into a pewpew from a stabstab
Also, special arrows > grenades because they convert the entire weapon attack into the element, but that's another discussion.
Well, sure, I agree that Ranged is better (my ranged character, Sebille, is the MVP of almost every fight). I do not agree, however, that survivablility is an issue for Rogues.
You may rarely encounter an enemy with only one armor type but most enemies favor one type or another heavily so it still makes it strategically interesting. Enemies with zero of one type of armor are honestly just canon fodder that can either be wiped out almost immediately or at least easily CC'd into oblivion.
Thinking about taking advantage of the respec on one of my characters and including Summoning in their repertoire.
How do Elemental Totems work? Is there a limit on how many you can summon?
Also regarding the Incarnate; I've seen some screenshots where he's twice the size of the standard one, what's the deal with that?
How do Elemental Totems work? Is there a limit on how many you can summon?
Also regarding the Incarnate; I've seen some screenshots where he's twice the size of the standard one, what's the deal with that?
Lanrutcon
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It might just be my experience then. It's mostly with named "heavies" deciding my Rogue is the main item on the lunch menu. Dude couldn't stand near the Hammer's pets, or a certain farmyard feature, or those goddamn vampire things, etc etc without taking 2 melee hits and needing major assistance.
GwyndolinCinder
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Splitting your mages in D:OS2 is pretty bad. You need to set statues twice to apply hard CC, and only really get good damage/heals from fully levelling one at a time.
Pick hydro/Aero for now. (Although you should keep atleast 2 points in either one)
Since you have an undead i recommend levelling up hydro, adding 2 points into necromancy. That way you'll be able to nuke enemies with blood sucker, and burst heal allies with it. (Just craft the book for Blood Rain)
Admiral Woofington
Member
It still ruins the usefulness of some skills though imho.
Like battering ram in OS was amazing. You could use it to rush encounters and knock out people in your way alongside bully? God damn. In this game there's no bully I can see.
I'm only at the end of act 1 but so far summoning seems pretty good, the incarnates do decent damage and for the most part enemies don't seem to bother killing them
Are you limited to two totems?
I remember Larian putting out a trailer where they have a line of them in from of the character - Wondering how they achieved that (unless they nerfed it since then...)
CrichtonKicks
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Battering Ram is still quite useful for 1) Crossing a large distance with minimal AP 2) doing AOE damage.
The status effects in the first game were unbalanced as hell once you figured out how they worked. Being able to take multiple enemies out of the fight with a single action is an overwhelming advantage. In OS2 you have to essentially "earn" that instead of opening with it out of the gate.
Everybody seems to get hung up on losing various CC options that they miss that a lot of these abilities are still putting out good damage even if you don't get the status effect.
Elemental Totems are one of my favorite skills. If you place one on an element, your totem will take on that element. So if you drop it in some fire then you'll have a fire totem that shoots fireballs. If you place a totem on just normal ground then it'll do physical damage, which can be useful to widdle down physical armor. Not sure how many you can place, I've had at least 3 down at one time, though.
With the Incarnate, I've read that when you get level 10 summoning, your incarnate gets much bigger.
GwyndolinCinder
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I mean the changes are there for the sake of balance....Like they wanted the combat to be more interactive and less "CC everything to death all the time".
Battering ram still is a great skill.
Like read the text and evaluate its cost, "Rush through all enemies in your path, dealing damage to them.", costs 2 AP and has 12m range. So erm its all ready better than simply moving to your target. Then you add "If this move destroys an enemy's armour, or they have no armour: Set knocked down status on that enemy for 1 turn".
Now combine this skill with a warfare build, thats going be doing big physical damage and has other AOE knockdown skills, and the value of this skill is pretty god dam high.
They added so many other combos to the game aswell.
Like my lizard wizard has a Pyro Dot build.
He applies a burning dot which lasts for 3 turns, and then immediately blows up the dot, dealing damage for each dot stack. He never worries bout CC'ing anythin, he just wants to get into an optimal position cast a massive lazer in a line, then blow everything up.
The trailer that Larian released about Summoning and Polymorph showed the Red Prince summoning a line of totems so it has me a little confused lol...
Ah ok, thanks for that.
bati
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3 totems per summoner, Incarnate gets a huge buff at Summoning 10.
I agree with you, these armors should've a % of chance to work and not 100% block. Lot of CC skills are useless like taunt because of them, my tank is kinda useless and so I convert him into dps instead...
Sanctuary
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Smoke Cover should work. It requires 1 in Aerothurge and 1 in Scoundrel, but it effectively makes you untargetable unless point blank. Enemies don't generally cast AoE abilities just to hit a single character either.
Boo, hiss. I was actually going to have Fane be my Necro/Geo/Warfare tank on a next playthrough that
In case you aren't being sarcastic, Crowd Control. It's where you manipulate enemies in such a way that it either takes them longer to reach or attack you, or they simply can't do anything at all for a turn or two.
Snkfanatic
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I just started this last night, I keep hearing things about making sure your cat doesn't get killed by a tower guard. Is there anything I need to do to prevent this from happening? Cat lose my kitty
You also run into enemies that have absurd amounts of both armor types, way too healthy HP pool and AP like sand on the beach. At that point you hate everything about how games difficulty is done at places and want throw it into river as it takes ages to drill through armor(s) without heavy weight on one or another while he burns through your party.
It's the guard on the tower by the entrance into the fort, one of 4 of them. You need to talk to one of them briefly for part of Ifan's quest so watch out for that
Moff
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He has a few silent monk adds. They are part of his encounter.
I never got a "crime scene" prompt though although I murdered half the camp.
Crowd Control.
Stuns, knockdowns, teleportation etc.
DO NOT go close to the gate that has 1 hound, 2 melee and 2 ranged Magisters at it (near blacksmith). They will autokill kitty. Also make sure to heal the kitty when it steps into poison etc. so it doesn't die.
It will become permanent once you escape Fort area and wont follow you into the Fort so there is less to worry about.
Sanctuary
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Seems to survive everything except going near
the locked entrance to the keep, where Borris, some dogs and a few other Magisters are standing out front of.
Unless there's a quest much later on in the game, the overall payoff is shrug worthy. The reward is:
you get a learnable summon cat skill that allows you to swap places with it on the map. The overall damage it does is bad though, and the person who actually gets to learn this seems entirely random. My main character had pet pal and spoke with it, yet it ended up going to The Red Prince (which was somewhat useful until Phoenix Dive).
I absolutely dislike it when games do this shit for same leveled enemies. Most of the time they aren't using something like Adrenaline, yet can move across the map and do two or three huge damaging abilities. If it was just isolated to bosses, then okay, sure why not, but not when it's a GROUP of unique enemies that get to combo the crap out of you just because.
Larian please...
Also, I still think the armor system is trash. Mainly due to a lack of piercing. I'd be 100% fine with it if:
1. Taunt actually fucking did anything at all. The current armor mechanic makes it mostly useless. I don't know if Larian meant it as a sardonic joke, but apparently having physical armor = having very "thick skin".
2. There were spells that were built specifically for stripping armor. Not just direct damage that simply eats the armor through...damage.
3. There were spells and another physical skill or two that pierces, hitting health directly, but does less damage than other comparable damage skills when armor isn't present.
CrichtonKicks
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Crowd Control. Abilities that take one or more enemies out of the fight so you can focus fire on bad guys one at time.
In the first game you do things like like open up a battle by casting rain, creating puddles under a group of enemies and then shock the puddle, immediately shocking a large batch of guys who could now not take any action in their turn. Once you figured out what you were doing it trivialized the difficulty.
With OS2 those options aren't on the table until you take down one of their armor types.
I think today's patch notice say they fixed that.
Ok, so Act 2 question (very, very minor spoiler maybe?):
how exactly does stocking your stuff on Lady Vengeance work? When I right click an object -> Send to Lady Vengeace, absolutely nothing happens...
Also, if someone can spoil me this: do we always keep access to the respec mirror?
Also, if someone can spoil me this: do we always keep access to the respec mirror?
bobnowhere
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If you want to stop worrying then
sneak through the fort so you get the cat as your summon asap. For example there's an entrance on the right side of the main gate.
Teleport your party and the cat up to the balcony. Then sneak past the enemies in the big hall and go to the other side of the hall (opposite where you came from) and there is a tower with an exit (teleport the cat down the beach) and the cat should become a summon.
Teleport your party and the cat up to the balcony. Then sneak past the enemies in the big hall and go to the other side of the hall (opposite where you came from) and there is a tower with an exit (teleport the cat down the beach) and the cat should become a summon.
Sanctuary
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Welcome to club Ranger. Except without...the range. ;p Melee characters, but more specifically Str/Warfare hit like megatons, but they are still extremely inefficient for AP use. You have to constantly use mobility skills to get around and they basically get two attacks per turn, and that's not counting all of the other things they probably need to spend AP on too.
hobblygobbly
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Other posters have replied but I will add more (my main character is a Summoner)
If you want to make a primary summoner character then I highly recommend the Wits attribute be your primary one, and if you go hybrid with another thing then whatever its related attribute be your secondary (like strength with Warfare).
The reason is that Summoning spells they are not affected by attributes, but Wits gives you a lot of initiative so your summoner will get the first turn in battle which is crucial because then you can do your summon (like incarnate), buff it, etc. There aren't any attributes that affect summoning spells so Wits is a no-brainer.
If you go Summoner/Warfare then yeah do Wits as primary and Strength as secondary and so on.
bobnowhere
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My Lohse is Huntsman/Poly. Tactical retreat, wings, iron skin, oil, pin down, Tentacle attack, rarely does anyone get in her melee range.
If you place soul jars on the ground, engage in combat with those three guardians and then destoy jars with e.g. spell they thank you for releasing them and giving them true death.
Neat detail.
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Not sure how I feel about Necromancy and Polymorphy scaling off of strength, even better at places than actual warfare skills. Being tanks means having few knockdowns from warfare and rest is stacking Necro and Poly for damage?
bonesmccoy
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I just won a battle I was woefully outmatched in thanks to a exploit. I feel weird.
Omg
That's not much of a problem with the Haste buff considering it costs 2 points to use Spread your Wing the first time, but 1 every subsequent time. Phoenix Dive is only one point and that's covered by Haste. Battering Ram is an effective gap closer and it also hits hard enough for me that I will break through their armor and knock them down on the opener. I don't need him to kill everyone on the map. I don't have a Ranger in my party and I've heard they are really strong but I'm skeptical that they outscale 2 handed damage, I'll definitely be running with one on my next playthrough, or if I feel like it maybe I'll respec my rogue.
Ghostbound
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This is good to know, thanks.
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