Feel Like I'm On 42
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This game sounds like it's absolutely awful on the Pro ..what a shame I thought this was going to shine on Pro
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Dragon Age: Veilguard |OT| 'Oof': A non-buynary return to form
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This game sounds like it's absolutely awful on the Pro ..what a shame I thought this was going to shine on Pro
Luipadre
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I dont have any problem with it besides this texture loading thing and im not sure its a Pro only issue.
Aja
Neo Member
No issues on base model for me atleast.
Joel Was Right
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There was a plot point involving one of the cities, and the way it is transformed after the incident is incredible; bodies covered in blankets with blood stains; some of them lumped together on the back of carts. Animals and pets that you once were able to pet on the city streets now, in a state from PTSD, are heightened in fear; barking at you. Some sit next to the bodies on the cart, suggesting it was their owner.
I criticised how empty the game felt during the few hours, but this here is an incredible transformation. I don't think I've seen this attention to detail, and context, in a video game before. These aren't just things ruined, but subtle changes that really invoke emotion.
I continue to be impressed by so many details in this game. Say what you like about the overall writing, the world building and accessibility features (e.g. you can even customise how bright hints that point to items on a map are, for instance) are so spectacular that they must surely become a standard in the industry.
This may not be the BioWare of old, but they've certainly got some talented people working on this game.
I criticised how empty the game felt during the few hours, but this here is an incredible transformation. I don't think I've seen this attention to detail, and context, in a video game before. These aren't just things ruined, but subtle changes that really invoke emotion.
I continue to be impressed by so many details in this game. Say what you like about the overall writing, the world building and accessibility features (e.g. you can even customise how bright hints that point to items on a map are, for instance) are so spectacular that they must surely become a standard in the industry.
This may not be the BioWare of old, but they've certainly got some talented people working on this game.
buenoblue
Member
I'm 40 hours in and doing loads of side stuff and exploring. Playing on PC, 65 inch QD OLED, and Atmos amp with height speakers. The game looks and plays so good
. I'm starting to get pretty invested in the Characters now. Yeah I'm loving it. I got it on Ea play but I might buy it now as I wanna do a playthrough as the other classes.
Crazy that so many people missing out because of a few woke scenes
. It is a little cheesy at times but I actually like the Marvel movies to so I'm not put off by it. I actually think some of the acting is pretty great. I use female voice 2 low and it's the best I think.
I wonder how many people dissing the game know that Taash is a female who only wants to know as a dragon hunter, not some dude dressed as a woman
. I'm starting to get pretty invested in the Characters now. Yeah I'm loving it. I got it on Ea play but I might buy it now as I wanna do a playthrough as the other classes. Crazy that so many people missing out because of a few woke scenes
. It is a little cheesy at times but I actually like the Marvel movies to so I'm not put off by it. I actually think some of the acting is pretty great. I use female voice 2 low and it's the best I think. I wonder how many people dissing the game know that Taash is a female who only wants to know as a dragon hunter, not some dude dressed as a woman
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Joel Was Right
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I've only noticed the texture thing ONCE in 4 hours of play on the Pro. It is spectacular on the Pro. It's worth pointing out that, when discussing the Pro, tech channels will critique its overall performance, and rightly mention areas where it drops the ball. But that doesn't actually reflect 95% of time you're playing the game. Critiquing the technical performance of games does not always equate to games actually struggling to run, or even noticeable most of the time. I think sometimes people confuse the two.
Joel Was Right
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
So...apparently there is in fact some missable achievements, like if you dont convice that specific spirit to aid you and you fight it instead, which thankfully i managed and saw the achievement pop, which means its very missable and rare. But the worst one is choosing which city to save. If you choose to save the crows one u miss out on a huge side quest that will give you said achievement and yeah...i didnt pick Minrathos....so im pretty much screwed out of it... :\ It also has 0.2% on steam so it seems like a lot of ppl missed out on it. Thats kinda dumb, why would there be an achievement just for one city but not the other?
edit: some dude on reddit who got the plat as well said, its possible to get the achievement even if I saved treviso. not sure how, but I guess ill have to see.
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
This may be the game I have enjoyed the most this year.
I loved 'Origins. It's a top five RPG of all time for me. The storytelling in this entry of the franchise largely matches it. It has some obvious overtures to appeal to a modern audience but that is to be expected. It features a great cast of characters, most with their own interesting backstories and branching side arcs. I think it relies too heavily on assuming that players are aware of the events of Inquisition and its DLC, but it only took me five-or-so minutes of reading random wiki articles to get the gist of things (I largely skipped Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition for various reasons).
The graphics, in particular the character designs and combat animations, are fantastic. I wasn't expecting this game to look as good as it does in motion on a PS5 (performance mode no less) after seeing the pretty whack-ass teaser trailer I saw a while back. The surround sound treatment is also really good, with voices and environmental sounds drifting believably from location to location, speaker to speaker, as one positions their character or moves about the world.
Combat overall is very good. Fluid, satisfying, a mix of old school CRPG and more modern action-oriented systems. There are some hang-ups and jank but nothing egregious. It feels like a better realized Mass Effect 2 in this regard. Very well thought-out skill trees - no point in a build feels wasted. Early on it can actually be challenging as a mage during some hectic encounters or boss fights, when one hasn't yet enlisted any sort of front line or tank companions. However, it's nowhere near "Soulsborne" levels of difficulty. Rather it feels like group composition and one's selection of abilities and spells matters more than raw reaction time.
The gear and inventory systems are kind of threadbare. This might be a plus for some, a detraction for others. I find it adequete but not exactly interesting or terribly engaging.
Speaking of Mass Effect: it seems as though Bioware is using mechanics and systems in this game to test the waters in service towards an eventual new Mass Effect entry - analyzing aspects of their storytelling and combat mechanics to figure out what players prefer so that they can get the next Mass Effect right. Because this game feels very much like a Mass Effect game in a fantasy setting.
I am about 20 hours in and this is an easy 4/5 for me. It is the belle of the ball over in other social media I frequent, particularly in the PlayStation-centric circles I follow, so between its success on Steam for EA and popularity with the console crowd I hope this baby gets some solid DLC in the months to come.
I loved 'Origins. It's a top five RPG of all time for me. The storytelling in this entry of the franchise largely matches it. It has some obvious overtures to appeal to a modern audience but that is to be expected. It features a great cast of characters, most with their own interesting backstories and branching side arcs. I think it relies too heavily on assuming that players are aware of the events of Inquisition and its DLC, but it only took me five-or-so minutes of reading random wiki articles to get the gist of things (I largely skipped Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition for various reasons).
The graphics, in particular the character designs and combat animations, are fantastic. I wasn't expecting this game to look as good as it does in motion on a PS5 (performance mode no less) after seeing the pretty whack-ass teaser trailer I saw a while back. The surround sound treatment is also really good, with voices and environmental sounds drifting believably from location to location, speaker to speaker, as one positions their character or moves about the world.
Combat overall is very good. Fluid, satisfying, a mix of old school CRPG and more modern action-oriented systems. There are some hang-ups and jank but nothing egregious. It feels like a better realized Mass Effect 2 in this regard. Very well thought-out skill trees - no point in a build feels wasted. Early on it can actually be challenging as a mage during some hectic encounters or boss fights, when one hasn't yet enlisted any sort of front line or tank companions. However, it's nowhere near "Soulsborne" levels of difficulty. Rather it feels like group composition and one's selection of abilities and spells matters more than raw reaction time.
The gear and inventory systems are kind of threadbare. This might be a plus for some, a detraction for others. I find it adequete but not exactly interesting or terribly engaging.
Speaking of Mass Effect: it seems as though Bioware is using mechanics and systems in this game to test the waters in service towards an eventual new Mass Effect entry - analyzing aspects of their storytelling and combat mechanics to figure out what players prefer so that they can get the next Mass Effect right. Because this game feels very much like a Mass Effect game in a fantasy setting.
I am about 20 hours in and this is an easy 4/5 for me. It is the belle of the ball over in other social media I frequent, particularly in the PlayStation-centric circles I follow, so between its success on Steam for EA and popularity with the console crowd I hope this baby gets some solid DLC in the months to come.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
25 hours in and i just punched my first dude!
i just dont understand the nerfing of role playing in role playing games. your entire job is to make a game where you can make choices. you did this for years, hell decades to great success. why throw it all away?
its funny. eurogamer review said that this is like Mass effect 2 suicide mission, only better. at least for the end of act missions. nope. ME2 suicide mission is still GOAT. This doesnt even come close. just because your team makes an appearance every once in a while doesnt mean its the same.
i just dont understand the nerfing of role playing in role playing games. your entire job is to make a game where you can make choices. you did this for years, hell decades to great success. why throw it all away?
its funny. eurogamer review said that this is like Mass effect 2 suicide mission, only better. at least for the end of act missions. nope. ME2 suicide mission is still GOAT. This doesnt even come close. just because your team makes an appearance every once in a while doesnt mean its the same.
Mossybrew
Banned
Im at 35 hours and just got to that point lol. And I wish there were more moments like that, as you say your rp for how you conduct your character is in a very narrow lane here. I wish I could play more of an asshole at times but I get thats just not the vibe they were going for in this game.
Anyway I have my gripes with the game but overall its a dense, meaty and largely satisfying experience. I like a long game like this even if at times all the side and companion quests can feel a bit overwhelming. Definitely GOTY contender.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
it seems you are realizing how bad it is.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I gotta imagine it has to be since it's such a pivotal story branch, would be weird if they lock out trophies / achievements for one half of the game.
Hot5pur
Member
Dragon age may not be everyone's cup of tea due to the Disneyfication of it and some very in your face gender identity stuff (very brief and optional), but overall it's a solid game.
Just sad that there are like 3 other threads dedicated to hating on this game for over a week now, you'd think people would have moved on with their lives, but no, let's continue being outraged.
Even sadder that most of them haven't even played the damn game and are going off a few cherry picked lines and parroting quotes from Skillup's review which was overly nitpicky and seems he didn't fully grasp the mechanics of the game from the Paul Tassi interview.
If some people think DA:V is childish, they should probably look in the mirror at their own behavior first.
Just sad that there are like 3 other threads dedicated to hating on this game for over a week now, you'd think people would have moved on with their lives, but no, let's continue being outraged.
Even sadder that most of them haven't even played the damn game and are going off a few cherry picked lines and parroting quotes from Skillup's review which was overly nitpicky and seems he didn't fully grasp the mechanics of the game from the Paul Tassi interview.
If some people think DA:V is childish, they should probably look in the mirror at their own behavior first.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Still loving this game. It's a story and character focused action-adventure RPG with lots of colorful, varied locations, sprawling cities, fun combat, and an interesting progression system. Pretty much everything I'd want from a game like this.
A few more of my shots:
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Ulysses 31
Member
He's waking up.
Now it's just waiting for the part where he realizes the combat has become so stale that he has to lower the difficulty to get it over with.
Agent_Nobody
Member
Just finished at about 85 hours all side quests done. And holy shit that last act was one hell of a ride, it really is Bioware’s best on the ending front.
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Complistic
Member
That's a reference for sure.This feels very From Software-coded.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Man i almost beat the level 50 dragon on my first try. i was only level 38 and didnt want to fight him tbh, but i kept doing good damage and got him down to less than a quarter health before dying. I think i will level up a couple more times and bring some better healing companions and abilities.
I really like how they handled exploration in this game. most levels are large enough that they dont feel linear, and almost all the chests are hidden behind some mini puzzle thats neither hard nor easy. it keeps the flow of the game going without any frustrating level gate bosses or obtuse puzzles. The chests upgrade your items which is a genius way to do loot. So many games give you trash materials but here you straight up upgrade your loot if you've found that item before. it's very rewarding. this would be a great action adventure game lol
Did a few more companion missions. No choices still. I still dont like any of the characters. The missions themselves are cookie cutter too. I really liked the andromeda loyalty missions because at least some of them were funny if not downright hilarious. You had great conversations with your crew throughout the missions, actual conflict. the characters, even the serious ones, were interesting to be around. its crazy that a secondary studio made a better bioware game than the main bioware studio. sucks EA shut it down. andromeda 2 wouldve been truly great.
I really like how they handled exploration in this game. most levels are large enough that they dont feel linear, and almost all the chests are hidden behind some mini puzzle thats neither hard nor easy. it keeps the flow of the game going without any frustrating level gate bosses or obtuse puzzles. The chests upgrade your items which is a genius way to do loot. So many games give you trash materials but here you straight up upgrade your loot if you've found that item before. it's very rewarding. this would be a great action adventure game lol
Did a few more companion missions. No choices still. I still dont like any of the characters. The missions themselves are cookie cutter too. I really liked the andromeda loyalty missions because at least some of them were funny if not downright hilarious. You had great conversations with your crew throughout the missions, actual conflict. the characters, even the serious ones, were interesting to be around. its crazy that a secondary studio made a better bioware game than the main bioware studio. sucks EA shut it down. andromeda 2 wouldve been truly great.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol wtf is this. I thought i was destroying everyone with my warrior axe build but the AoE potential of this thing is insane.
i wouldnt be surprised if im playing the warrior all wrong.
i wouldnt be surprised if im playing the warrior all wrong.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Hey, what are your thoughts on the game?
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
NVM i just saw your comments a little bit back in this thread .. so story and characters suck but combat and visuals good?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i wouldnt say it sucks. its just there. not great not terrible.
combat is excellent. visuals are ok. game loop is extremely fun to play. ive put in 25 hours in the last week or so.. thats what? 3 hours a day? i almost never do this anymore.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Right that's why I was hoping it would be great...not many games these days do all the things a Dragon Age game doesStill loving this game. It's a story and character focused action-adventure RPG with lots of colorful, varied locations, sprawling cities, fun combat, and an interesting progression system. Pretty much everything I'd want from a game like this.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
OK ...is the dialog always going to bother me? Like is it always chirpy chirpy cringe stuff a la Final Fantasy 7 writing?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
nah, nothing like that. game isnt marvel or anything like the first trailers suggested. even the few quirky characters are pretty grounded.
its just boring. you might like it if you are into the lore. its better than most non-sony/rockstar games released nowadays even, but its no bioware.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
You know you're absolutely right and I should know better. I've seen this first hand here with Jedi Survivor people saying they did a garbage job with Pro, meanwhile it's one of the games that has impressed me most because of how awesome the lighting combined with cleaner and more detailed image while playing in the Fidelity mode. It looks like a PC game now but that's if you play at 30 fps..some of the best RT lightinfbthere is in console
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
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Feel Like I'm On 42
just started playing. there is a dialogue option that pops up on your companion when you're at home base which can sometimes trigger a companion quest. just did one for darvin and recorded it knowing it would be boring and pointless, but even i wasnt prepared for just how pointless it would be. lol
as you can see, the tone is fine. the dialogue is fine. the acting is fine. its just boring.
just started playing. there is a dialogue option that pops up on your companion when you're at home base which can sometimes trigger a companion quest. just did one for darvin and recorded it knowing it would be boring and pointless, but even i wasnt prepared for just how pointless it would be. lol
as you can see, the tone is fine. the dialogue is fine. the acting is fine. its just boring.
Alex11
Member
Yeah, but as I keep saying, it's too easy, you shouldn't have been able to beat it with such a gap in lvl 1st try and I'm pretty sure you could have managed it, just put healing on both companions and spam it, lol.
I'm saying this as I'm now about the same lvl as the dragon bosses and it's really no problem or challenge, never mind the ones from the story missions, those are just trivial, I think the last one I managed to kill it in half a minute.
Also they all have the exact same attack patterns, it's the same dragon boss, different skin.
What I'll say is that there was a boss that I liked at Weisshaupt again, it was easy, but I liked the mechanics, too bad it wasn't expanded more.
I also like the unique locations for some of the companions, in these moments you can still sense a tiny bit of that Bioware magic.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
That's a bummer about the difficulty ...there is an epidemic in gaming right now with games getting made easier than ever before. Seen several developers excitedly talking about how this is a great thing because it allows "more people to play through our game". Publishers like this idea too I'm sure....more people able to finish more likely to get sales from the casuals. I think this one trend is ruining a lot of games that otherwise could've been great.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Considering too the game lets you pick the difficulty there’s no reason hard shouldn’t be more rewarding and challenging.
It’s just a lack of a combat system depth. Initially it layers on a few things but then you realize how unimportant it all is because every fight you’ll do the same thing no matter who is in your party. Apply the thing, explode the thing, do big damage or ultimate. Rinse repeat.
Too often too the idea of difficulty is just make enemies have insane amounts of health.
GymWolf
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That's a face that not even an antivan crow would love.My Rook
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vaibhavpisal
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Hot5pur
Member
Coming up on 40 hours played.
Game has really kept my interest and attention. The characters are all very solid and I think for the most part the writing is quite good.
The companion quests are definitely worth doing, and even some of the random side quests ain't half bad.
Having said that, the game does suffer a bit from GoW 2018 syndrome, where it recycles stuff in terms of enemy types and animations. It's not as bad as GoW2018 but it's noticeable.
Sometimes you think by exploring you'll find some new awesome beast to slay..but nope, just another ghost demon thing. Still at about an 8.5-9 / 10 game for me, probably game of the year for me as well.
Game has really kept my interest and attention. The characters are all very solid and I think for the most part the writing is quite good.
The companion quests are definitely worth doing, and even some of the random side quests ain't half bad.
Having said that, the game does suffer a bit from GoW 2018 syndrome, where it recycles stuff in terms of enemy types and animations. It's not as bad as GoW2018 but it's noticeable.
Sometimes you think by exploring you'll find some new awesome beast to slay..but nope, just another ghost demon thing. Still at about an 8.5-9 / 10 game for me, probably game of the year for me as well.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Those types of games feel like nightmare to me.
Maybe there are build options that can mitigate that.
Will check this out eventually, on first sale likely.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Just did the 2 dragon mission that they showed at E3 or was it Gamescom? Awesome stuff. Wish the entire game was like this.
Was this the end of Act 2 or Act 1?
I destroyed the bosses because im already level 40 and i think this might have been a mid story mission. Might have to increase the difficulty.
Was this the end of Act 2 or Act 1?
I destroyed the bosses because im already level 40 and i think this might have been a mid story mission. Might have to increase the difficulty.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
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Alex11
Member
There are options, sure, you can make enemies have less HP and/or do more damage, but that wouldn't change the core of the combat, they would die faster, the more dmg they would do wouldn't matter that much, you would still have unlimited healing.
On the other hand, increasing enemy HP, resistances etc. would make them beyond spongy.
Most of the bosses have the same movements and patterns, that said, there are a few bosses where you can see maybe a hint that they were trying for something different in combat design.
Mossybrew
Banned
53 hours and I still have a ton of stuff to do and it doesnt feel like Im even close to the end.I moved Enemy Aggression to low and combat feels better IMO, not so relentlessly targeted by attacks, gives you a bit more room to breathe. And I sometimes miss the more open vistas of Inquisition, but almost any area here if you take the time to look up and around its very impressive.
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