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Dragon Age: Veilguard |OT| 'Oof': A non-buynary return to form

Gonzito

Gold Member
Coming up on 40 hours played.
Game has really kept my interest and attention. The characters are all very solid and I think for the most part the writing is quite good.
The companion quests are definitely worth doing, and even some of the random side quests ain't half bad.
Having said that, the game does suffer a bit from GoW 2018 syndrome, where it recycles stuff in terms of enemy types and animations. It's not as bad as GoW2018 but it's noticeable.
Sometimes you think by exploring you'll find some new awesome beast to slay..but nope, just another ghost demon thing. Still at about an 8.5-9 / 10 game for me, probably game of the year for me as well.

The writing is good? Man... 😂
 

Sabejita

Neo Member
I finished it and I'm glad I did because the end is pretty good, after the point of no return, you have real tension, real choices, that's what makes it good.
Companion quests endings are fine too as they let you chose for the fate of your companions, but it impacts gameplay more than anything so I don't know if I would have made the same choices knowing what the companions earn.
Before that, choices weren't very impactful, the first one of the game is big but you don't know the 2 towns at that time so it's a 50/50 choice, no real implication.

Combat is OK but I felt distance was more fun and easy than going melee on my warrior so I went full Captain America, getting every skill that boosted shield throwing and it was pretty OP, with 9999 crits on some weak points.
I was shredding normal mobs.

Bestiary is really lacking, I don't think you even fight one dwarf in the game, there's one funny event where you're fighting the same skeletons with swords (again) on a beach and your companions are constantly shooting: "There are Pirates!" like they couldn't even put some pirate hats on them so someone has to point that those are different skeletons.

Speaking of hats, they are so ugly on Rook... why do every one of them puts a mask on your face?
Armors are OK, transmog helps a lot you have plenty of choice.
Weapons are bad, even transmog, 6 colors of the same ugly sword isn't choice. And no 2H Sword in Dragon Age? I was maining it in Origins and 2...

I still don't really get their choice for upgrading stuff and especially companions' one: just before the end, Isabela sells you most of the stuff you thought you missed... but I finished with some companions with legendary weapons when other like Neve only had blue at best, really weird. Rook was full legendary.

Character design is ok but some big heads really pop out in cutscenes (what did they do to Maevaris?)

I don't really like the hub that you visit until you unlocked every paths (then you only use fast travel), you don't really feel a connection in the world between the different locations, especially the Necropolis that feels out of this world, completely closed, you don't know how normal people can travel from place to place.

I already wrote about woke stuff in another thread: non-binary stuff is misplaced (they should have used existing lore instead of modern stuff to tell the same story) and french translation is ugly to read.

It's a good game, not my GOTY but I had fun.
 
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Sabejita

Neo Member
I don't know what the writers have against Neve but you can really go all in:
get her hurt in the first scene of the game
let her town get destroyed
get her infected by blight during the end
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Even after 30 hours, im still tinkering with my female character. Had my wife help me because i kept creating trannys. She helped me with feminine features i didnt even know about like eye shapes, eye brows, shoulders and height, mouth and chin settings. I felt like i know less about women than anyone on the planet lol

I think she now looks far more feminine.

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The shemales below were my creation. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

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GymWolf

Gold Member
This game feel like comfort food, it does nothing great other than location art design and solas apparitions, and everything else goes from mediocre to decent, i haven't meet traash yet so i guess i have to see the worst of what the writing has to offer, in general the writing is too goody2shoes and rook is a charismaless protagonist, from what i heard these crows group should be fucking terrible but they are treated like city heroes or some shit?!
I never played past dragon age games so this doesn't bother me much but i can only guess how mad the old fanboys are...

It definitely gets better after 10-12 hours when combat and exploration open up and characters stop pulling kojimas and explaining stuff 5 times in a row.

The game would be much, much better with a more realistic, gritty artstyle, higher challenge and enemy variety, for now it's barely a 7.

I'm gonna say this, i'm having much more fun with this one than dogma 2, the game kinda has the same problems (low challenge, dull writing, low enemy variety) but in d2 these flaws feels much worse, challenge was non-existent, world and characters were the most basic fantasy trash imaginable with trash voice acting and you felt like you were fighting the same 5 enemies all the time.
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
Even after 30 hours, im still tinkering with my female character. Had my wife help me because i kept creating trannys. She helped me with feminine features i didnt even know about like eye shapes, eye brows, shoulders and height, mouth and chin settings. I felt like i know less about women than anyone on the planet lol

I think she now looks far more feminine.

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The shemales below were my creation. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

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Is there way to not make look every rook a fucking idiot? (Especially when they have the happy face\smile) :lollipop_squinting:

I need to post pics of mine...
 
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Hot5pur

Member
The writing is good? Man... 😂

He said it was GOTY, I can't take anyone seriously that claims this.

Besides the visuals and combat, this game is average to mediocre.

Yeah I actually think the characters have a lot of depth to them and a bunch of interesting themes are explored. I can probably write a good few paragraphs on each characters journey and resolution of their inner and outer conflicts. The moment to moment writing is at times simplistic and there are a few definite misses, but overall it's very good and interesting.

I looked at some GOTY lists, seems this year was kinda just OK. I have yet to play Space Marine 2 and Path of Exile 2 which I suspect I might enjoy even more. But I saw FFVII rebirth on one of these lists, also an ARPG with importance placed on characters and combat. I wonder how that game actually is, because I am also playing through FFVII remake and the writing is atrocious, the characters are borderline alien - no one talks like that. I suspect it must be poor translation from Japanese. So much of it is cringe and the characters are just garbage, including Cloud.

I still think Dragon Age is hated on for politics. As a package it's been one of the best experiences I've had in recent memory and I'm a huge action RPG fan.
 

Luipadre

Gold Member
Just stopped at the part what i think is going to be the end of act 1. First 8-10 hour i was like meh its okay, but now the game grew on me, combat clicked and im loving my time with it. It looks really awesome on the Pro at a silky smooth 60. Its so smooth even when i threw everything at it in combat. Wonder how it would run unlocked, im pretty sure there is a decent headroom here for more fps.

Im glad i didnt skipped this
 

deriks

4-Time GIF/Meme God
Even after 30 hours, im still tinkering with my female character. Had my wife help me because i kept creating trannys. She helped me with feminine features i didnt even know about like eye shapes, eye brows, shoulders and height, mouth and chin settings. I felt like i know less about women than anyone on the planet lol

I think she now looks far more feminine.

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qi9fCNK.jpeg




The shemales below were my creation. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

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Jeremy Allen White Cooking GIF by The Bear
 
Even after 30 hours, im still tinkering with my female character. Had my wife help me because i kept creating trannys. She helped me with feminine features i didnt even know about like eye shapes, eye brows, shoulders and height, mouth and chin settings. I felt like i know less about women than anyone on the planet lol

I think she now looks far more feminine.

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qi9fCNK.jpeg




The shemales below were my creation. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

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The biggest hurdle in this CC is that to get past certain limits you have to change the pre-set heads; (they had a similar system in in Starfield but you could sculpt things separately to get the same result) but in this they give you 3 heads to morph between and that sets what the base is to an extent, so for example: there is no direct eye size setting (other than how open the eye lids are) and there is no way to change it other than by using the head morph with the pre-selcted base. So I have to find the eye size I want off an existing head or two…or three.

Another is tip is to maybe not stick to 100% real proportions:
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This head I made is waaaaay out of wack in terms of real-life proportion, but it still works…it’s “off” but doesn’t quite look “off”…anime sized eyes and spacing do wonders 😜
 
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Is there way to not make look every rook a fucking idiot? (Especially when they have the happy face\smile) :lollipop_squinting:

I need to post pics of mine...
Keep the corners of the mouth at around 0, and don’t make your mouth too wide or narrow, or too indented/outwards on ‘depth’.
 
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He said it was GOTY, I can't take anyone seriously that claims this.

Besides the visuals and combat, this game is average to mediocre.
It’s probably my GOTY too; I liked DD2, Rebirth, Wukong…hell MW5 Clans was probably my personal GOTY before this point, but I honestly enjoyed my time more on this, especially with the last act in this game.

Take me seriously or not…
 

T4keD0wN

Member
Is there way to not make look every rook a fucking idiot? (Especially when they have the happy face\smile)
Its hard, i gave up after like half an hour and downloaded someone elses preset from the nexusmods and then just changed the hair.
I am also playing through FFVII remake and the writing is atrocious, the characters are borderline alien - no one talks like that. I suspect it must be poor translation from Japanese. So much of it is cringe and the characters are just garbage, including Cloud.
Happy If You Say So GIF
 

Jinxed

Gold Member
It’s probably my GOTY too; I liked DD2, Rebirth, Wukong…hell MW5 Clans was probably my personal GOTY before this point, but I honestly enjoyed my time more on this, especially with the last act in this game.

Take me seriously or not…
I wont but it's all good, it just means we're either are polar opposites on what is a good game or you have an agenda. I'll let you pick, I dont care.

This game is average to mediocre, take out the license and take out the controversy about it and this it's already forgotten.
 
The story has quite a bit of nuance to it:
The fact Rook could talk down the warden commander that quickly if you chose not to attack them…it seems absolutely unrealistic until you realize you’re tied to Solas by blood magic…the god of ‘lies, treachery and rebellion’ (depending on the story) and he’s kinda been giving his power to you the whole time.
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
Elemental enemy resistance are everything in this game, they trump everything else, when you understand that the game become even easier, i have no idea why people didn't liked the mage during the first levels, it was a killer machine since the beginning if you always have the right element, i swear people play vg for 30 years and they are still surprised pikachu sometimes for the most simple things...

Pretty asinine that i can't switch weapon during combat when enemies can have completely random resistances, i have to purposely lose to load the game again and it if it is one of those instances where the game load directly into combat you are fucked and need to reload a previous save, who the fuck thought that not letting me change weapon mid combat was a good idea in a fucking action rpg??
 
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Luipadre

Gold Member
What i really appreciate in games besides good art is the sound design and i must say this game sounds fantastic. Everything is so crisp, music is great, dialogue sounds clean. SH2 was the last game i played before this and the sound in that game is phenomenal too
 

Gonzito

Gold Member
What i really appreciate in games besides good art is the sound design and i must say this game sounds fantastic. Everything is so crisp, music is great, dialogue sounds clean. SH2 was the last game i played before this and the sound in that game is phenomenal too

Is the texture streaming issue fixed in pro? I remember you were complaining about it a few days ago
 

Luipadre

Gold Member
Is the texture streaming issue fixed in pro? I remember you were complaining about it a few days ago

Its still there imo, but i notice it much less, its mostly subtle. Its a weird one. Today i had a conversation cinematic with an npc and his cloths were really low res, but after the conversation ended, it looked better during gameplay.
 
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