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Would people please stop quoting BlackBeetleKing's posts? They're offensive to my eyes.
Dolphin - Emulating Wii and Gamecube Games
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EatChildren
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Skilletor said:
You will not get the integral experience out of Skyward Sword without motion controls, unless you're asking if Dolphin supports M+ just fine, in which case yes it does.
Dolphin allows you to map directional waggle to buttons and functions, so that has allowed people to bypass the Twilight Princess Wii and Donkey Kong Country Returns waggle quite easily. Skyward Sword is the complete opposite though. The waggle is not a gesture, its 1:1 motion detection. You'd have a hell of a time trying to map that to anything, as it would be like trying to map an analogue stick to a d-pad - severely limiting and basically broken.
Nuclear Muffin
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Dascu said:
It wouldn't work. You would need 3 analog sticks to cover every axis and even if you did map them, the controls would be unusable in practice.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Anabuhabkuss said:
Mostly just standard stuff, with full screen resolution set to 1920x1080, and 16x anisotropic filtering. Per-pixel lighting is also on, and EFB Copies are set to RAM. I'm pretty sure you need the latter to make the the map work. Also make sure the Zelda TP hack is enabled, though I think it is enabled automatically when TP is loaded. You should only use it for TP, but it prevents slowdown on Hyrule Field (or something to that effect).
jediyoshi said:
Sports Resort works fine for me. I was playing sword fighting in 1080p the other day
.Anywho, I finished the City in the Sky, and it ties with the Temple of Time as my least favourite dungeon. I knew there was something up with my memory of the place, which was both extremely vague of it's layout and not entirely sure if I originally enjoyed it.
While the dungeon has some good ideas, and the dual clawshot is way too cool for school, the dungeon highlights a lot of the tedium I dislike in Zelda. Its too slow, and bland to navigate in my opinion. I also think it brings to light some of the fiddly mechanics of Twilight Princess, particularly the automatic jump and the terrible grapple vine collision detection. Mostly I found the dungeon a chore, and couldn't wait for it to be over. The boss fight is pretty neat, but like all the others far too easy.
SCREENS! There's quite a few of Hyrule Field and other locals here too, taken during the pre-City in the Sky statue quest and such.
Man God said:
theoricaly 2 small led lights or 2 candles also work, but the wireless sensor bar is way easier =P
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senador said:
or
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ThatObviousUser
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I love TP, but it's hard to look at this and not imagine a completely open, explorable Hyrule Field like Oblivion.
Mr. Wonderful
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You mean Xenoblade.Andrex said:
I love TP, but it's hard to look at this and not imagine a completely open, explorable Hyrule Field like Oblivion.
Oblivion is so generic.
The Antitype
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Kuran said:
What? TP is gorgeous. It's like the Nintendo take on the LOTR vibe.
It doesn't hold up as well over time as Wind Waker does, granted, but both are fantastic.
I would take TP style a thousand times over the new SS style.
ThatObviousUser
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Kuran said:
TP had a good art style. The architecture and enemy design are some of the best "realistic" style done IMO. And I also liked the character design for the most part... the game's style was very consistent.
I think EatChildren's posts highlight how good TP looked in spite of its hardware.
BlackBeetleKing
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[Xenoblade] Unused/Beta Area: Bionis' Left Shoulder?
Screenshots on dolphin
Screenshots on dolphin
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I love TP's art direction. It makes incredible use of the hardware, and is chock full of little details. Even the low res textures cant turn me off from many of the vistas and sceneries. They might be technically dated, but those shots I took of Hyrule Field, Faron Woods and the outlook over Lake Hylia are gorgeous to me. I love the way everything is positioned, the scope of the environments, and the shaping of the terrain.
But I also love Wind Waker and Skyward Sword's art direction. On one hand I hope Zelda Wii U adopts a creative art direction like (but not exactly) those two games, but on the other I'd also love to see a game with a similar look to Twilight Princess. The hardware would do wonders, as the tech demo showed.
Done!
But I also love Wind Waker and Skyward Sword's art direction. On one hand I hope Zelda Wii U adopts a creative art direction like (but not exactly) those two games, but on the other I'd also love to see a game with a similar look to Twilight Princess. The hardware would do wonders, as the tech demo showed.
Ubermatik said:
Done!
ThatObviousUser
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EatChildren you have probably answered this before, but what's your CPU/GPU/RAM?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
i5 2500K OC'd from 3.3GHz to 4.3Ghz
8GB DDR3
GTX570 (factory OC'd)
I haven't tried it yet, but I'm pretty sure I cant run Twilight Princess with any AA. I really wish Dolphin didn't force supersampling as the AA solution. It might be a glorious method of AA, but its way too resource intensive, and given that emulation requires a beefy system by default its hard to use without it destroying the framerate (as I have discovered in other games).
8GB DDR3
GTX570 (factory OC'd)
I haven't tried it yet, but I'm pretty sure I cant run Twilight Princess with any AA. I really wish Dolphin didn't force supersampling as the AA solution. It might be a glorious method of AA, but its way too resource intensive, and given that emulation requires a beefy system by default its hard to use without it destroying the framerate (as I have discovered in other games).
You'll be fine with AA. I use 4x on a 5870, Twilight Princess runs as normal (can't speak to Hyrule field, since I've never left the first area on Dolphin -- but I've played through the forest dungeon with no hitches).EatChildren said:
Adding AA in Dolphin typically doesn't create large slowdown in games that run well, at least not in my experience. I haven't dumped my whole collection, but I played Wind Waker at 2560x1600 with 9x SSAA and didn't have much slowdown.
Actually scratch that, I remember having slowdown at 9x. I may have knocked it down to 4x SSAA to achieve near-perfect performance.
ThatObviousUser
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EatChildren said:
Thanks!
It looks pretty antialiased to me... Certainly no jaggies in your shots.
You must have a monster of a cooling setup then? I imagine overclocking was very important to get the performance needed, right? I wonder if a GTX 460 could cut it... GPU generally isn't as important with emulation, or so I've been told.
Then again, I don't intend on running Dolphin at anything other than 1080p (or less) at the moment.
ThatObviousUser
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Crunched said:
Sweet!
I know Dolphin is optimized for 64-bit, but what about quad core?
ThatObviousUser
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Crunched said:
Bah. But if they ever do support 4 cores, there'll be a drastic performance increase right?
ThatObviousUser
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Drkirby said:
How much did it impact PCSX2?
So, I've gotten 3 frozen black screens in WW, and I've only been playing for 30 mins :/ what could cause this? I tried enabling "fix item hang" and I disabled audio throttle, nothing worked. I'm on v3.0 if that matters.
Also, I assume the widescreen hack is used at the expense of having certain objects disappear when outside the 4:3 ratio?
Also, I assume the widescreen hack is used at the expense of having certain objects disappear when outside the 4:3 ratio?
Try rev 2.0, never had any WW problems with that. Played from start to finish.Mistle said:
The widescreen hack causes some disappearing objects, yes.
EatChildren: I just played a bit of TP to see how AA would affect performance, and I'm getting around 28-30 with one sudden dip to 20 (and right back up again) when entering the twilight realm. This is within Hyrule field. 4x SSAA, 1920x1080.
You have a more powerful cpu and gpu than I do, so go for the AA.
9x SSAA brings me down to 4 fps at the title screen, but 4x is a minimal hit.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Cool, I'll give it a shot tonight. I was mostly concerned about the AA as last I tried was 9xSSAA on Wii Sports Resort, and it crippled it to ~4fps.
On the latest revision, the best balance of IQ vs. performance I can get is 3x native resolution (1920x1584) and 2x AA. I don't know what kind of AA it's implementing here, but it works well.EatChildren said:
I'm done playing with it for the night though. Set up a wiimote config on my 360 pad, but it sucks playing like this, and I can't find my actual remote anywhere.
I also tried the TP bloom hack, because I really hate how much the bloom is amplified by Dolphin (have I repeated myself enough yet gosh), but can't deal with the reversed world/controls. I guess I'm stuck living with the bloom.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't have a 2xAA, only 4 and 9xSSAA.
I keep the internal resolution auto for window size, and just set the fullscreen resolution to 1920x1080.
I keep the internal resolution auto for window size, and just set the fullscreen resolution to 1920x1080.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Crunched said:
3.0
Options must have changed in the newer builds I guess. But anyway: you'll be able to use AA, just experiment and see what works for you.EatChildren said:
Looking forward to more screens.
Hm, setting EFB to texture and sliding texture cache to fast basically eliminates all speed problems completely. It makes the map kind of funky, but I hardly use that anyway.
AdawgDaFAB
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I'm hoping for this too but I'll wait and hear some feedback first. The last thing I'd want is to be playing it on my first go through and have constant problems bringing down the experience.Roarer said:
Plus, my setup isn't that great either: Phenom II X3 3.6 OC + ATI 4980.
I'll have to test TP sometime soon and see if I can even run that well first.
I should be doing hw
Member
Xenoblade was pretty quick to be optimised wasn't it? Or was that because the Japanese version had already been out for a while.Roarer said:
SS will be focused upon to get working as fast as possible though, it's not like its some obscure game.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hey guys im getting a weird ghraphical bug in XenoBlade using r7716.
The FPS is a solid 24+ (which is the main reason i switched up from 3.0(i was getting 20 and when lucky 24,25)
But now this happens every now and then:
Graphics Normal
Graphics when the game wants to fuck with me
Anyone else encountered this, or know a fix?
P.S Ive seen people posting SSAA options, is this Super Sampling Anti-Aliasing? If it is which revision has this option, cuz my V3.0 doesnt have it, and neither does r7716.
The FPS is a solid 24+ (which is the main reason i switched up from 3.0(i was getting 20 and when lucky 24,25)
But now this happens every now and then:
Graphics Normal
Graphics when the game wants to fuck with me
Anyone else encountered this, or know a fix?
P.S Ive seen people posting SSAA options, is this Super Sampling Anti-Aliasing? If it is which revision has this option, cuz my V3.0 doesnt have it, and neither does r7716.
chaosblade
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You can do that by changing your resolution to 2x/4x/etc the resolution of your monitor so it scales down. I think you can also do it in your GPU control panel.Black_Stride said:
It just depends on how well the game already works and whether or not they can fix issues with small tweaks. I haven't really paid much attention recently, but I don't know if there were ever any specific optimizations for Xenoblade, apart from a few patches that weren't from the Dolphin dev team (30fps fix, sound fix that didn't even work for me).I should be doing hw said: