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Donald Trump signs vague, pro-cop executive orders

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Tovarisc

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Donald Trump has signed three executive orders to deal with ”public safety", including handing more authority to the police.

He insisted that the US faced the ”threat of rising crime" and that ”things will get better very soon".

"I am directing the Department of Justice to reduce crimes and crimes of violence against law enforcement officers," he said.

”It's a shame, what has been happening to our great, our truly great, law enforcement officers. That is going to stop today."

One of the executive orders seeks to ”define new federal crimes, and increase penalties for existing federal crimes, in order to prevent violence" against state and federal police.

No mention was made by Mr Trump of the hundreds of people who die at the hands of law enforcement every year.

His speech comes just one month after the former administration's DoJ concluded that, in Chicago, residents had suffered a ”pattern of excessive force" by police, experienced particularly within communities of colour.

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At the swearing-in ceremony of Mr Sessions on Thursday, Mr Trump added that the three new executive orders, including ordering the Department of Homeland Security to ”break the back of criminal cartels" and asking the Department of Justice to implement a task force to reduce violent crime, were giving a ”clear sign" to criminals.

”Your day is over," he declared. ”A new era of justice begins and it begins right now."

Mr Sessions, a longtime Senator from Alabama who was once deemed too racist to serve as a federal judge, told reporters that the US ”has a crime problem".

”I wish the rise that we're seeing in crime in America today were some sort of aberration or a blip," he said.

”My best judgement, having been involved in criminal law enforcement for many years, is that this is a dangerous, permanent trend that puts the health and safety of America at risk," he added.

Mr Trump's and Mr Sessions's claims of permanent, rising crime have consistently been debunked.

Mr Sessions added that he would fight terrorism and implement a ”lawful system of immigration".

”We need to end this lawlessness that threatens the public safety and pulls down the wages of working Americans," he said.

Mr Sessions was widely reported to be one of the key architects of the Muslim ban, an executive order signed on 27 January....

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ting-us-president-jeff-sessions-a7572001.html

Executive orders can be found here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

EO's not fully copy pasted below!

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Executive Order on a Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety

Sec. 2. Task Force.
(c) The Task Force shall:

(i) exchange information and ideas among its members that will be useful in developing strategies to reduce crime, including, in particular, illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and violent crime;

(ii) based on that exchange of information and ideas, develop strategies to reduce crime;

(iii) identify deficiencies in existing laws that have made them less effective in reducing crime and propose new legislation that could be enacted to improve public safety and reduce crime;

(iv) evaluate the availability and adequacy of crime-related data and identify measures that could improve data collection in a manner that will aid in the understanding of crime trends and in the reduction of crime; and

(v) conduct any other studies and develop any other recommendations as directed by the Attorney General.
(e) The Task Force shall submit at least one report to the President within 1 year from the date of this order, and a subsequent report at least once per year thereafter while the Task Force remains in existence.

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Executive Order on Preventing Violence Against Federal, State, Tribal, and Local Law Enforcement Officers

Section 1. Policy.
(a) enforce all Federal laws in order to enhance the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers, and thereby all Americans;

(b) develop strategies, in a process led by the Department of Justice (Department) and within the boundaries of the Constitution and existing Federal laws, to further enhance the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers; and

(c) pursue appropriate legislation, consistent with the Constitution's regime of limited and enumerated Federal powers, that will define new Federal crimes, and increase penalties for existing Federal crimes, in order to prevent violence against Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers.

Sec. 2. Implementation.
(a) develop a strategy for the Department's use of existing Federal laws to prosecute individuals who commit or attempt to commit crimes of violence against Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers;

(b) coordinate with State, tribal, and local governments, and with law enforcement agencies at all levels, including other Federal agencies, in prosecuting crimes of violence against Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers in order to advance adequate multi-jurisdiction prosecution efforts;

(c) review existing Federal laws to determine whether those laws are adequate to address the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers;

(d) following that review, and in coordination with other Federal agencies, as appropriate, make recommendations to the President for legislation to address the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers, including, if warranted, legislation defining new crimes of violence and establishing new mandatory minimum sentences for existing crimes of violence against Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers, as well as for related crimes;

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Executive Order on Enforcing Federal Law with Respect to Transnational Criminal Organizations and Preventing International Trafficking

Section 1. Purpose
A comprehensive and decisive approach is required to dismantle these organized crime syndicates and restore safety for the American people.

Sec. 2. Policy
(a) strengthen enforcement of Federal law in order to thwart transnational criminal organizations and subsidiary organizations, including criminal gangs, cartels, racketeering organizations, and other groups engaged in illicit activities that present a threat to public safety and national security

(b) ensure that Federal law enforcement agencies give a high priority and devote sufficient resources to efforts to identify, interdict, disrupt, and dismantle transnational criminal organizations and subsidiary organizations, including through the investigation, apprehension, and prosecution of members of such organizations, the extradition of members of such organizations to face justice in the United States

(d) enhance cooperation with foreign counterparts against transnational criminal organizations and subsidiary organizations, including, where appropriate and permitted by law, through sharing of intelligence and law enforcement information and through increased security sector assistance to foreign partners by the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security;
 
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These EOs seem to be worded so vaguely.

"I dunno, come up with some shit, arrest a few more black people, and report back to me in a year."
 

tehfryguy

Member
How long until there's outrage a brown person is assaulted even more unnecessarily because of this?

later today
 

smurfx

get some go again
to combat charges that crime isn't really rising as they claim they will start arresting minorities in record numbers to show that it is and that they need to get even tougher.
 

Tovarisc

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Mr.Shrugglesツ;230027226 said:
Those executive orders are basically "keep doing what you're doing".

They also order to look into ways of enhancing existing laws and creating new laws to protect law enforcement and make punishments from confronting law enforcement harsher. Because you could easily get away with it before.
 

LifEndz

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Oh, your car broke down? Fuck you, don't move.

Oh, you're just walking home? Fuck you, don't move!

What, you're already on the ground with your hands up? Fuck you, law and order.
 

Showaddy

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Those Orders seem vague as fuck. Seems like they're basically giving the police forces authority to do whatever the hell they want.
 
Reading through the text

This seems to be promoting info sharing, and info sharing to make police safer, and to enforce bonds of police+federal level in doing so.

Someone translate it for me because otherwise it seems like nothing.
 
I might be missing something, but aren't these three EO remarkably vacuous ?
I mean, they read like a campaign speech, full of big intentions and wishful thinking, but they aren't very concrete.
 
So 3 EO's that add bureaucracy and gum the up the works for what looks like things these organizations were already doing. Im ok with this.
 

Caja 117

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Mr.Shrugglesツ;230027226 said:
Those executive orders are basically "keep doing what you're doing".

I wouldnt be surprised if after a couple of years they show crime statistics with the same number during Obama's administration and them saying "look how much crime has being reduced"
 

Salamando

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They also order to look into ways of enhancing existing laws and creating new laws to protect law enforcement and make punishments from confronting law enforcement harsher. Because you could easily get away with it before.

They look like they just define the basic operation of government though. "Enforce existing laws" is maybe a slight against sanctuary cities, but "identify deficiencies" and "create new laws" should be going on already.
 

jelly

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Military police, protect the rich no doubt. Arrest more people to show they are doing something, that won't end well.
 
So when does """resisting arrest""" becomes the Federal lever to coerce people to take plea deals beneficial to the governments' side
 

kirblar

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So "rising crime" in the US is empirically wrong, right?
Yes. It's been dropping since the '90s, almost certainly due to de-leading gasoline and not giving future generations brain damage because of it.

(This is the reason why kids born in the '90s+ don't have context for the early '90s crime bill.)
 

Viewt

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These EOs are so fucking vague. The real message is loud and clear: "We're going to fuck with you. We're going to take every possible opportunity to put a boot on your neck. And if you say a word, we'll trump up even bigger charges against you so that your life is effectively ruined. Drive safe."

Fuck these goons.

You shouldn't be scared, unless you are a criminal.

If you're joking, I apologize for taking this seriously.

If you're not, this is embarrassingly tone-deaf and uninformed. Less than a month ago, the Justice Department released findings of continued constitutional violations by the Chicago Police Department. They are not alone in this. Similar findings are available for the Baltimore PD, as well as the Ferguson PD. The bullshit harassment enforced by the LAPD is legendary. This is not an isolated incident. The police are corrupt. Period. There is no intellectually honest argument to be had.

Again, if you're joking, I apologize, but I find (sincere) statements like that really frustrating.
 
Yeah, these all seem be incredibly vague nonsense saying "Policemens.... do gooder on crimes. Try making crime illegal?? Thank's"
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
This is falling in line with the rumor that Bannon is gearing up for a battle with protestors and wants to see blood.

They're gonna box the police in so that if anyone at one of these protests so much as coughs on a cop they're gonna be able to just lash out without just cause against people en masse.

I don't care about the Devos stuff or the other random bullshit he does, but mixed in with every ten dumb stories about him being a chode to Australia is something like this and I really think they're gearing up for something truly dark and gaslighting to cover their tracks.
 

Tovarisc

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They look like they just define the basic operation of government though. "Enforce existing laws" is maybe a slight against sanctuary cities, but "identify deficiencies" and "create new laws" should be going on already.

But with people like Sessions and Trump defining what those enhancements and new laws should be this could get interesting.
 
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