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"Don't blame me, I voted for Kerry/Edwards" merchandise
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man i need me one of those..
and they're made in the USA!?!?!
SOLD!
and they're made in the USA!?!?!
SOLD!
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yeah fuck those america hatin lib homos hope they go to france fucken frog lovers. osama would like to bend u little lib loserz over and then put that fancy dijon mustard on ur chestz for michael more to lick off lol, dumbass america hatin fattyBacon said:
Some of you people seriously do not realize what was at stake, here. We don't have to "get over" anything. You have to realize what is going on:Bacon said:
-Republican President.
-Republican House of Representatives, 231 to 200.
-Republican Senate, 55 to 41.
Democrats are, to put it in GAF terms, OWNED. COMPLETELY OWNED. It was hard enough before for the Democratic side of the House and Senate to rival against the Republicans and convince some of them that they need to vote against things. Now, it's going to be next to impossible, if not that then LITERALLY impossible.
John Kerry would have provided at least some balance to this whole thing. But George is still there in the White House, and 10 out of 10 times, he's going to side with his Republican friends -- who greatly outnumber the Democrats to begin with. This means any law that Republicans and George Bush want passed WILL MOST LIKELY GET PASSED, one way or another. Democrats will be helpless, even if they're kicking and screaming the whole way through.
Democrat or Republican, BALANCE is what you want to ensure stability. I live in Pittsburgh, and we are having a lot of problems with new jobs, making the city better, helping poorer communities, etc. And it's because our Mayor and everyone he works with is Democratic. So don't think I'm taking the side of the Liberal 100% of the time, just because I am a Liberal.
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Diablos said:
Don't forget a packed Supreme Court!
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Shinobi said:
That's funny, I thought Joe Lieberman was a Democrat...
Um, much of the gained House seats were thanks to DeLay's gerrymandering and the GOP needs 60 seats in the senate to have a lock, not 50. The Dems took a significant hit, but it's not the end of the world. Provided that they and the remaining sane republicans grow spines, they can still put up a fight.
Hitokage said:
If if's and but's....
What are the going to do? Fillibuster for four years straight (two, in a perfect world)? It'd be nice to think they can hold off the agenda and ally with the moderates, but I don't see it happening...
Aside from which, DeLay will roll over any Senate compromises. They should bust out the fillibuster if a particularly nasty Supreme Court appointment comes up, but beyond that, going on the talk shows might end up being the most effective use of their time.
I just want to quickly point out that this doesn't add up to 100.
The split is 55/44/1, with the independent almost always swinging to the Democrats on most issues. I've been reading a lot in the past week, from the shrieking of the religious right who are convinced (maybe, to a degree, rightly so) that they're responsible for Bush's second term, and therefore must do only their bidding, to leftist doom/gloom/Civil War II is on the horizon rantings.Neither is right, as with everything, the truth is in the middle. Bush said in his victory speech that he wants to reach out to the people who didn't vote for him. If it's anything like 2000, it's probably mostly talk, as every indication is that he's combative, defensive, and just, simply, closed to any ideas that conflict with his own. But I'd like to think that real Republicans still exist; the ones that understand that banning gay marriage is just as "big government" as huge welfare rolls; that vetting Justice nominees for beliefs that would reverse Roe vs. Wade is also a litmus test. That if he wants history to paint him as anything but a President who deliberately divided the nation and led it down an unsure road, he's going to have to throttle back, suck it up, and at least try to be a centrist.
Moderate Republicans like McCain and Specter need to make sure their backbone is welded to their skeleton, and the new minority leader not only needs that, but a set of big brass ones as well. Sincere efforts at real bipartisanship need to be made. That isn't defined as telling Democrats "We're going to put stuff up for votes, and you're going to approve them." It's a willingness to compromise on both sides, regardless of which party holds the majority.
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We need a good Liberal in the whitehouse, stat.Shinobi said:
Like Lieberman.
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