Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you the person pushing that sales were stronger on PS5 and more a kin to 1:1 when all data suggested that it was selling better on PC?
There have been larger 1P releases on PS5 vs PS4 launch aligned and it isn't even close.
No evidence to suggest that PC development is creating longer development cycles for console.
Cumulative libraries were not the case from PS3/360 to PS4/X1, yet there was not a massive pilgrimage to PC.
It goes beyond speculation that Valve would release a console like product.
For Valve to release their own console, the hardware would have to be significantly more expensive than current consoles.
I'm proud of the progress you've shown. Keep going and eventually you'll reach acceptance.Sony is quickly becoming one of the more pre-eminent PC publishers. In the United States they have 4 games ranked in the top 10 and 4 in the top 15 globally.
They have 4 of the top 10 current best sellers.
Quite a good performance considering the narrative from many that they should give up PC support or that there isn't demand for their games on PC.
- Helldivers 2 (1st/1st)
- Destiny 2 (5th/9th)
- Ghost of Tsushima Directors Cut (pre-order) (7th/11th)
- Helldivers 2 - Super Citizen Edition (8th/15th)
It'll be interesting to see how Horizon performs, as well as the inevitable Last of Us Part 2.
Sony is quickly becoming one of the more pre-eminent PC publishers. In the United States they have 4 games ranked in the top 10 and 4 in the top 15 globally.
They have 4 of the top 10 current best sellers.
Quite a good performance considering the narrative from many that they should give up PC support or that there isn't demand for their games on PC.
- Helldivers 2 (1st/1st)
- Destiny 2 (5th/9th)
- Ghost of Tsushima Directors Cut (pre-order) (7th/11th)
- Helldivers 2 - Super Citizen Edition (8th/15th)
It'll be interesting to see how Horizon performs, as well as the inevitable Last of Us Part 2.
If there is 1 game that I dont think it will come to PC, its this game.Gran Turismo 7 is going to sell gangbusters if they do end up porting it too.
Imagine 4K 120fps with ray tracing during races.
Missing their target by 15% and predicting a decline in PS5 sales going forward suggest that it might ultimately lag behind the PS4. It seems the PS5's success is largely riding on the strong momentum established by the PS4, rather than other strategic decisions.
Decisions won't affect markets right away and they don't have their own store which gives them the ability to expand their ecosystem in a meaningful way on pc.
Well let's see how it goes for them. But even if playstation is declining people won't blame the lag of exclusives anyway. So it won't matter either way.
Think you're pretty right on the money here, though I would probably call it 12-18+ months.
God of War Ragnarok is sitting at 16 months now and it hasn't even been announced for PC.
Think it might be wise to breakdown Flagship Single Player and Single Player.
Horizon Forbidden West is more than 2 years. Maybe this hastens under Totoki, but I think we still have to see elements of this play out.
Thank you! Checking the weekly top sellers, Helldivers 2 was #1 for every single week since launch. This doesn't even include the Premium $60/$20 Upgrade of the game, as it has its own placement. Tomorrow is its 1-month anniversary as well.
Making on the top 10 doesn't mean it's performing well. It only means it's performing better than other things right now for a specific time period. Suicide Squad was on that list when it launched because a launch is an event leads to elevated sales the same way a game becoming available for pre-order.
And we've seen the numbers on how SP first parties sell on PC. They're not too impressive.
Again, all this is going to do is decrease the potential of sales on PlayStation, and keep revenue stagnant or even mildly reduced in the long term. Recent events have proven this stuff doesn't change the outcome of decline/stagnation.
Yes, that's accurate. The primary reason for this situation is that in 2013, most of the PS3 exclusives were not cross-gen, whereas a significant portion of the PS5 exclusives is cross-gen. Furthermore, their output decreased notably after the first year, and those who claim it's mainly PC ports, remasters, and remakes might have a point. Whether the PC incentive is the cause of this can only be speculated upon.
It is speculation but it wouldn't be a first. They already tried and if they do similar speced console for like 599 to 699. They might snack some console players.
Is it tho? Ask youself, how many people switched from playstation and xbox to be a primary pc player? How many people do you personally know who started on console but switched?
Personally I know alot of xbox and PlayStation players doing so.
Sony might be getting a taste for that low overhead PC dough. They don’t have to pay for manufacturing, storage, give retailers a cut, compete with used sales… just sounds a lot easier and the potential customer base is just as big.
So yeah, let's ignore the reason why the steam machine failed.
- More expensive than consoles
- Lack of exclusive system sellers
- Lacks many of the benefits of gaming PCs
So yeah, let's ignore the reason why the steam machine failed.
- More expensive than consoles
- Lack of exclusive system sellers
- Lacks many of the benefits of gaming PCs
Sony might be getting a taste for that low overhead PC dough. They don’t have to pay for manufacturing, storage, give retailers a cut, compete with used sales… just sounds a lot easier and the potential customer base is just as big.
Imo the steam machine failed because valve didn't do the console themselves. They made prototypes which were awesome. Well at least I heared as much I applied to get one myself but I didnt get one.
If Valve makes a steam machine themselves like they did with the Deck it won't fail.
Yes, it isYeah because the SteamDeck is selling millions of units...
Yeah because the SteamDeck is selling millions of units...
Yes, it is
Actually it's quite successful and helped valve gain more people not interested in the platform before.
It’s selling millions and continues to sell well. If you’re trying to frame the Steam Deck as a failure you’re way off the mark. It’s here to stay.Makes the Vita look like a rousing hit
Makes the Vita look like a rousing hit
Don’t forget this abomination.So yeah, let's ignore the reason why the steam machine failed.
- More expensive than consoles
- Lack of exclusive system sellers
- Lacks many of the benefits of gaming PCs