You're not the first person to experience this, I also have a 970 and have it, so OpenGL is advisable to use. I've seen quite a few with this problem. I was only seeing a max of about 7-10fps improvement with Vulkan and while thats not to be sniffed at, I'm still way over 60fps at 1080p so it's not like it makes much difference.
Doom (2016) PC performance thread
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You're not the first person to experience this, I also have a 970 and have it, so OpenGL is advisable to use. I've seen quite a few with this problem. I was only seeing a max of about 7-10fps improvement with Vulkan and while thats not to be sniffed at, I'm still way over 60fps at 1080p so it's not like it makes much difference.
brandonh83
Banned
Getting the crash too now after setting it to Vulkan. I've also been having an issue where my Radeon settings seemingly just vanish from my PC, as well as, when it's actually there, trying to automatically update my drivers to an older version.
Was thinking of picking this up. Thought I would try the demo first before splurging. Good thing I did. Periodically the framerate drops to single digits for 2-5 seconds, then jumps back up to 90-120 fps. It has happened in menus, in dense areas, open areas, in the middle of a fight, or just exploring, no rhyme or reason I can find. It does it, full screened, windowed, ultra settings, low settings, and anything in-between. Happens ~3 or so times on a demo run through, but always in different places.
With the game monitor up, when it happens, the FPS drops and the only other indication is my CPU utilization goes from 30-70% on my 4 cores to also single digit utilization, like the game just lost priority or something.
I have yet to see any game I own do this, I have not seen any weird behavior on my PC either.
I am running an I5 4690k, GTX 970 OC, 16M Ram.
Anyone else have issues with the demo but the full game run OK?
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Found the issue, seems a background program related to Oculus Rift (ovrserver_x64) was spiking my network connection so heavily that it caused lag bursts in the Demo. I forced quit the service, not one issue after. Fucking Facebook man,
With the game monitor up, when it happens, the FPS drops and the only other indication is my CPU utilization goes from 30-70% on my 4 cores to also single digit utilization, like the game just lost priority or something.
I have yet to see any game I own do this, I have not seen any weird behavior on my PC either.
I am running an I5 4690k, GTX 970 OC, 16M Ram.
Anyone else have issues with the demo but the full game run OK?
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Found the issue, seems a background program related to Oculus Rift (ovrserver_x64) was spiking my network connection so heavily that it caused lag bursts in the Demo. I forced quit the service, not one issue after. Fucking Facebook man,
RandomSeed
Member
I used Vulkan to finish up the game, and while it was a stuttery mess (versus OpenGL running like a dream), it didn't crash.
Amazing game, but the technical problems are a bummer.
Before Vulkan, I had to turn down my settings to low/medium on a 720p monitor to get 60fps and even then the game struggled a bit on Hell levels. I have a reference Sapphire 290. FX 6300 CPU and 12gb of ram.
With Vulkan I'm playing on Ultra settings and having 60 FPS most of the time with a few dips into 45 FPS in places like The Foundry. So I'd say Vulkan is a game changer for me
With Vulkan I'm playing on Ultra settings and having 60 FPS most of the time with a few dips into 45 FPS in places like The Foundry. So I'd say Vulkan is a game changer for me
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
another crash. only 2 hours into it. seriously might just stop playing until they bother to fix it. the game is fun but every time it crashes it just happens so suddenly without warning and then you need to restart the game and continue from the last checkpoint. really frustrating.
Drama Zed Nod
Member
Is there proper SLI support yet?
dgrdsv
Member
What's "takes a shit"? I went through the game on a 980Ti in 2560x1600 with all maxed and I can't think of any place where I've seen less than 50 fps, even in combat.
May want to check your Nvidia Control Panel to see if your GPU's power mode is set to Prefer Maximum Performance.
Had a somewhat similar issue with other games and this seemed to help.
Like, the 40's. Particularly in "I Am Vega." One particular room in another level had the same problem at 1440p. Other people seem to have had the same problem. Had to drop lighting to medium. Cleared back up throughout the entire final level though.
SuperBanana
Banned
So my game has decided to lock up at the end of Argent Tower after the screen turns white. And it happens every time. 
I dunno how to even get around it.
I dunno how to even get around it.So my game has decided to lock up at the end of Argent Tower after the screen turns white. And it happens every time.
I'd make sure my graphics drivers are up to date. If they are, then i'd try changing graphics backends and then getting to the end of the level again.
Bolivar687
Banned
Playing on Vulkan with a 4790K and my new Fury X, up to 200fps on 1080p Ultra and almost always at or above my monitor's 144Hz refresh rate.
I just cannot get decent performance in this game.
I have a 6700K, a 1070 OC, 16GB DDR4 3200MHz and the framerate can go below 60 fps during the intro sequence @2560x1600 (opengl or Vulkan)...
The games runs far below what it should given my specs.
I get a +19000 graphics score in Firestrike and close to 6000 in TimeSpy, only Doom runs bad and I really have no idea why...
I have a 6700K, a 1070 OC, 16GB DDR4 3200MHz and the framerate can go below 60 fps during the intro sequence @2560x1600 (opengl or Vulkan)...
The games runs far below what it should given my specs.
I get a +19000 graphics score in Firestrike and close to 6000 in TimeSpy, only Doom runs bad and I really have no idea why...
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
at 1440p the lowest it goes is 81fps. your resolution has 409,600 more pixels than 1440p. not quite sure that would give you a 20+ frame drop though. is it just the intro or does it continue further into the game?
That intro sequence gives me a significantly worse framerate than 90% of the rest of he game for whatever reason on a GTX 1080. I noticed it a while back, but it seemed just to be that area, so it didn't really bug me.
Sweet, redownloading that for later! Curious to see how far I can push my 280X and FX6300 on Vulkan
. Thats how you fucking handle a demo.
IcyRhythms
Member
New update gonna fix the crashing many are experiencing?
Holy fuck. Vulkan update lets me run Ultra at 60 with some super duper minor dips to 50 in that intro room, during actual gameplay I've never seen it go below 59 though, mostly at 70 and above.
This is on a fucking FX6300 coupled with a 280X. Vulkan is some crazy shit. Does make my CPU run hot as hell though, reached 63 degrees, which is nearing throttling limits, but the fan kept up like a champ, never went above 63, it starts to throttle once it hits 65 :lol. Not as big of an issue if I'd just turn vsync on and cap the framerate to 60, obviously, it was reaching the 100s at points. This CPU keeps surprising me. That said the OpenGL build is some crazy voodoo too considering it was pretty much a constant 60 on High settings on an AMD GPU, most OpenGL apps run like shit.
Edit: I say Ultra but it's mostly Ultra, Vulkan obviously can't give my GPU more than 3gB of VRAM. Some settings had to give like the Texture cache
This is on a fucking FX6300 coupled with a 280X. Vulkan is some crazy shit. Does make my CPU run hot as hell though, reached 63 degrees, which is nearing throttling limits, but the fan kept up like a champ, never went above 63, it starts to throttle once it hits 65 :lol. Not as big of an issue if I'd just turn vsync on and cap the framerate to 60, obviously, it was reaching the 100s at points. This CPU keeps surprising me. That said the OpenGL build is some crazy voodoo too considering it was pretty much a constant 60 on High settings on an AMD GPU, most OpenGL apps run like shit.
Edit: I say Ultra but it's mostly Ultra, Vulkan obviously can't give my GPU more than 3gB of VRAM. Some settings had to give like the Texture cache
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
when is the update? i just crashed yet again. really starting to annoy me. edit: crashed another 2 times. might just stop playing if it's going to crash every 5-10 minutes. edit 2: game uninstalled. if they ever bother fixing this then i'll come back to it.
It continues further
Edit: for info, cpu usage is in the 20s, gpu 97-99% @1936MHz
Err, isn't DOOM under Vulkan completely shagged for Nvidia currently, with frame times all over the shop? Lots of information about it around at the moment.
Digital Foundry: https://youtu.be/27zvYGSGrng?t=231
PCGamesHardware.de: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Doom-2016-Spiel-56369/Specials/Vulkan-Benchmarks-Frametimes-1202711/
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Nice pic!
Any tips for taking great screenshots? I just use the Steam screenshot feature, but I'm sure I could do better.
dgrdsv
Member
Err, isn't DOOM under Vulkan completely shagged for Nvidia currently, with frame times all over the shop? Lots of information about it around at the moment.
Digital Foundry: https://youtu.be/27zvYGSGrng?t=231
PCGamesHardware.de: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Doom-2016-Spiel-56369/Specials/Vulkan-Benchmarks-Frametimes-1202711/
The funnier part of PCGH comparison with "adjusted" frametimes is that NV is loosing ~60 fps (~50%) of performance because of this frametiming bug at the moment - look at the average fps number on these:
I've been saying for some time now that current Doom Vulkan renderer is basically unusable on NV h/w because of bugs and lack of features. Doesn't stop people from using it to compare vendors since oooohh it's such a nice boost for one of them. Same people tend to completely miss the exact opposite situation in The Talos Principle for some reason.
Supposedly there are "tons of optimizations and improvements", so perhaps.
ambar_hitman
Member
Goddamn it that 12 GB update of MP maps. Who even plays MP of this game? Unnecessary bandwidth wastage.
icecold1983
Member
no mention of nvidia vulkan improvements. i figure its unlikely the situation changes
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
did the update fix crashing during campaign?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Well I don't know what happened, but since the last time I played it, performance has tanked hard.
After the vulkan patch I didn't see sub 60fps anywhere, even the intro was silky smooth.
Loaded it back up today and the intro dips below 40 and actually fighting in the room dips to 50.
Advanced research complex tanked to 30 in the intro where you sit in the train and to 40 at the first arena encounter.
Almost makes me not want to play the game anymore.
Edit:
Ok not exactly sure what happened, I switched back to opengl and the intro was back to 60-50fps, then switched back to vulkan and the intro was smooth again at 70-80fps...
So I guess if anyone runs into this problem, switch back to opengl and then vulkan again.
After the vulkan patch I didn't see sub 60fps anywhere, even the intro was silky smooth.
Loaded it back up today and the intro dips below 40 and actually fighting in the room dips to 50.
Advanced research complex tanked to 30 in the intro where you sit in the train and to 40 at the first arena encounter.
Almost makes me not want to play the game anymore.
Edit:
Ok not exactly sure what happened, I switched back to opengl and the intro was back to 60-50fps, then switched back to vulkan and the intro was smooth again at 70-80fps...
So I guess if anyone runs into this problem, switch back to opengl and then vulkan again.
Does this game just not run in exclusive fullscreen, regardless of renderer? I am using OpenGL and it seems to be in fullscreen when the title screen is up, but once I start loading a game, it's like it instantly switching to borderless, even though I have fullscreen set. I can tell it's not fullscreen because I can swap between windows instantly.
Anyone have a fix for the texture pop in or it's just the limitation of the engine? Apparently it's worse on Nvidia cards, and I can confirm that on my 1070, the pop in is there. While not apparent on battle fights, when running around exploring the levels or looking for secrets it's pretty noticeable. This is on max settings, nightmare setting when available.
Happens to me every time I try to take a screenshot (Vulkan), or the game just up and crashes (OpenGL).
GavinUK86
Member
That's strange because I'm not noticing any pop in on a 970.
Maybe pop in is not the right word, but texture streaming? Like it takes a second for the texture to load when you get close to it.
The Lamonster
Member
This is on sale for $30 right now on Steam FYI
A single card will struggle to hit 60fps at 4k, 1440p and over 60fps should easily be possible though.
Beautiful Ninja
Member
My understanding is that it's an intrinsic issue with any idtech engine game using megatextures. For what it's worth I've never encountered it on my GTX 1070, but some people do.
Ahh very nice. I'm on 1080p now but wanted to step up to 2K. I think it's still a bit early to adopt 4K, but 2K sounds like the way to go.
Thanks.
SlaughterX
Banned
I'm running it in 4k on my 980ti and I can't tell you what the exact frame rate is, but it runs damn fast.
Vulkan drivers, btw
Vulkan drivers, btw
Is their a significant difference between a 4K and 2K image? I guess at this point I'd have to consider the price between those two monitors.
I do know that Doom has really great vertical resolution scaling so it can drop vertical resolution before having to drop frames. It's probably why it still seems super smooth, but you might be losing some resolution.