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after bracer/mek/face, crystalis is the next core item on lich right? I kind of just bought it straight up after I killed everybody on their team constantly forever.

that shit ain't wards. And before you complain that the wards are out of stock, counterwards (sentries) don't have a cap in this game.

Crystalis? really? the crit item? on lich? why.
 
that shit ain't wards. And before you complain that the wards are out of stock, counterwards (sentries) don't have a cap in this game.

Crystalis? really? the crit item? on lich? why.

I had wards. I went 10-0-4. They had given up and just hid in their base when I was about 7 kills in. I hadn't taken any last hits until they gave up. I bought it with extra gold I had. Then they started trying to fight me one on one in the bottom lane, got a couple kills and the rax, bought a crystalis for shiggles. 3 shot lina, pudge stole the kill.
 
I had wards. I went 10-0-4. They had given up and just hid in their base when I was about 7 kills in. I hadn't taken any last hits until they gave up. I bought it with extra gold I had. Then they started trying to fight me one on one in the bottom lane, got a couple kills and the rax, bought a crystalis for shiggles. 3 shot lina, pudge stole the kill.

The actual core items you'd be looking at with a lot of farm on lich would be something like a Scythe or Shivas. Crit items just don't fit on supportive heroes unless you're dicking around.
 
His team was 17/2 and the enemy team literally gave up and stayed in the Fountain. I wish my ping didn't go to crap, I would of loved to be part of that.

He was personally 7/0.
 
crit on earthshaker is for pros, don't try it at home kids
That makes more sense. Crit on an enchant, do a gorillian damage. You've just gotta be playing manly es.

I had wards. I went 10-0-4. They had given up and just hid in their base when I was about 7 kills in. I hadn't taken any last hits until they gave up. I bought it with extra gold I had. Then they started trying to fight me one on one in the bottom lane, got a couple kills and the rax, bought a crystalis for shiggles. 3 shot lina, pudge stole the kill.
Why would you ask for advice on items when the game isn't mattering then? You can get anything you want.
 
I'm laughing up a storm here, looking at a file called dotakeys.lst, it has an alternative key binding called "MMO Template", and it is basically the exact same thing I use. The main parts are the Map Camera Controles to WASD, and abilities changed to 1234.

In fact, there is 4 sets of key bindings, Classic, MMO, WASD, and ARROW
 
I'm laughing up a storm here, looking at a file called dotakeys.lst, it has an alternative key binding called "MMO Template", and it is basically the exact same thing I use. The main parts are the Map Camera Controles to WASD, and abilities changed to 1234.

In fact, there is 4 sets of key bindings, Classic, MMO, WASD, and ARROW

*gasp* But... but numerals are for items!
 
I use the F Keys for those. What else are they going to do?

I may try Alt Number again, once they make it so that doesn't cause a bunch of map pings.

Aren't they too high to use em effectively? And Alt Numbers... how you can even use these? With your left hand or what?

upd: I am not even dense.
 
That sounds terrible, how would you ever play chen if your creeps are assigned to z, x or c
 
One day, everyone will realise that WASD camera control is the superior method of control.
Free up some time to move the mouse around more precisely since you dont need to get edge push the screen to move around. You also have much better precise camera control too.

WASD = camera
QERF = skills
ZXC = items
attack/hold = extra mouse buttons

Seriously people, try this shit. For such a fast paced and reaction orientated game, dota isnt an RTS anymore. Having the controls like this make things much much smoother and quicker to use.
 
One day, everyone will realise that WASD camera control is the superior method of control.
Free up some time to move the mouse around more precisely since you dont need to get edge push the screen to move around. You also have much better precise camera control too.

WASD = camera
QERF = skills
ZXC = items
attack/hold = extra mouse buttons

Seriously people, try this shit. For such a fast paced and reaction orientated game, dota isnt an RTS anymore. Having the controls like this make things much much smoother and quicker to use.

Stop being wrong, jump in the shower and get on DOTA 2 you idiot hole.
 
Sort of a silly question since I've been playing quite a bit but still haven't figured this out: What's the logic behind shopping at the secret shops? If I send my courier there but have my hero selected while buying the item goes into my stash, if I've got courier selected it goes to him or the stash randomly, shopping with my hero the item goes into stash or iventory, recipes always go to stash etc. I would assume it's bugged or something, still quite odd. There's no guaranteed way to get the item into a specific inventory it seems like. Maybe it's an user error.
 
Sort of a silly question since I've been playing quite a bit but still haven't figured this out: What's the logic behind shopping at the secret shops? If I send my courier there but have my hero selected while buying the item goes into my stash, if I've got courier selected it goes to him or the stash randomly, shopping with my hero the item goes into stash or iventory, recipes always go to stash etc. I would assume it's bugged or something, still quite odd. There's no guaranteed way to get the item into a specific inventory it seems like. Maybe it's an user error.

I think your missing something (sorry if this isnt it)
The shops have different items in them. There is a selection of items that can ONLY be bought in the secret shop, they have a little red S on the bottom of logo in the shop.
The outpost offers a smaller selection of items that are also sold in the main shop at the fountain.
Recipes can only be bought at base.
You have to have the person you want to buy on, next to the shop you want to buy the item from. Buy an item which isnt at the shop your at, or your not next to a shop and the item goes into your stash. Except Secret shop items, you must be at the secret shop to get those, with either you or the courier, you cant get them from anywhere.
Does that help?

Edit -
Heres the secret shop items (secret shop ONLY): http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Secret_Shop
The outpost (can also be bought at base): http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Side_Lane_Shop
Everything else is bought at the base shop.
 
I used 456 MB4 MB5 and spacebar

I've been thinking about moving them elsewhere, though
 
I think your missing something (sorry if this isnt it)
The shops have different items in them. There is a selection of items that can ONLY be bought in the secret shop, they have a little red S on the bottom of logo in the shop.
The outpost offers a smaller selection of items that are also sold in the main shop at the fountain.
Recipes can only be bought at base.
You have to have the person you want to buy on, next to the shop you want to buy the item from. Buy an item which isnt at the shop your at, or your not next to a shop and the item goes into your stash. Except Secret shop items, you must be at the secret shop to get those, with either you or the courier, you cant get them from anywhere.
Does that help?

Yeah I knew that SS has a different selection than other shops, but the problem is when I'm at the SS in any form (courier, hero) the item still seems to go randomly either in my inventory/stash. It's just frustrating when I'm trying to buy something there with my courier, then it ends up in my stash and the courier has to go back to base etc. I have to pay some more attention to this since I'm sure I'm simply doing something wrong.

Didn't know that about recipes though, that explains at least a part of it. Thanks!
 
mb5 4 5
mb4 T 6

Just tried this, I like it.

I was using:
m5 4 5
m4 6 7

But I only found m5 and m4 to be practical, even 4 was hard to hit on my "oh shit!" moments.
My T was for leveling up stats... At least now I can have one more "oh shit" item without having to switch my layout around. Set stats to A, which I only used for Tower Denying.

By the way, is it normal that Tangos on M5 automatically consume the tree your cursor's on?
It doesn't work if it's M4, so I have no clue why it happens, I find it quite useful tho.

Edit: Should try spacebar too. Currently unassigned, I think.
 
Thinking about swapping T and spacebar, but I quite like the rest. Gives me enough room for control groups for the time being. I have T and select hero, Y and donkey, X as assign skill, C and stats, V and shop, and B as glyph.

I've been smacking glyph by mistake here and there, so I may axe X as I don't need it (Ctrl + the key works just fine) and move glyph there or maybe z.

Camera feels a bit too close sometimes in the thick of it and I often forget to use my middle mouse click to move the camera. Besides the WASD idea, anyone come up with any other ways to work the camera?
 
Yeah I knew that SS has a different selection than other shops, but the problem is when I'm at the SS in any form (courier, hero) the item still seems to go randomly either in my inventory/stash. It's just frustrating when I'm trying to buy something there with my courier, then it ends up in my stash and the courier has to go back to base etc. I have to pay some more attention to this since I'm sure I'm simply doing something wrong.

Didn't know that about recipes though, that explains at least a part of it. Thanks!


Items from the secret shop definitely wont be going into your Stash, thats not possible.
If your buying an item from the outpost, maybe its going to you stash because your not close enough to the shop? Or your not buying an item thats at that shop. With the courier thing, make sure you have the correct one selected at the right shop you want to get the item. If the courier is at the right shop but you have yourself selected, youll be buying it from your character (itll go to stash) and not go onto the courier.
 
Just tried this, I like it.

I was using:
m5 4 5
m4 6 7

But I only found m5 and m4 to be practical, even 4 was hard to hit on my "oh shit!" moments.
My T was for leveling up stats... At least now I can have one more "oh shit" item without having to switch my layout around. Set stats to A, which I only used for Tower Denying.

By the way, is it normal that Tangos on M5 automatically consume the tree your cursor's on?
It doesn't work if it's M4, so I have no clue why it happens, I find it quite useful tho.

Edit: Should try spacebar too. Currently unassigned, I think.
I use X for leveling up skills.
 
Farming all day in short lane with pulls, KSing, babysat leoric? You got at least 3 kills from me pushsticking you forward to help chase noobs and I was even tanking Rosh for you since you couldn't handle it. Get supported more. My puck was wrecking fools in the long lane with Haly, doing TP ganks because Sanjay needed 5 different people to scream at him in mumble to press R as nightstalker before he finally does it 30 minutes into the game. Meteorain's unhealthy obsession with picking Drow and taking the piss in the jungle by himself for 30 minutes to only farm a shadow blade didn't help the team any too.

tldr I random Puck, get first blood, win my lane, gank and control the map, and carry you 3, tracksuits included, to victory.
 
Farming all day in short lane with pulls, KSing, babysat leoric? You got at least 3 kills from me pushsticking you forward to help chase noobs and I was even tanking Rosh for you since you couldn't handle it. Get supported more. My puck was wrecking fools in the long lane with Haly, doing TP ganks because Sanjay needed 5 different people to scream at him in mumble to press R as nightstalker before he finally does it 30 minutes into the game. Meteorain's unhealthy obsession with picking Drow and taking the piss in the jungle by himself for 30 minutes to only farm a shadow blade didn't help the team any too.

tldr I random Puck, get first blood, win my lane, gank and control the map, and carry you 3, tracksuits included, to victory.

People getting called out up in here.
 
That team was terrible, nothing to sing home about.

yo suddenly you're acting like you're above it all Sanjay. I consider it my responsibility to warn everyone in this thread that you last pick carry/mid heroes after the game has started and we've already decided who goes mid.
 
yo suddenly you're acting like you're above it all Sanjay. I consider it my responsibility to warn everyone in this thread that you last pick carry/mid heroes after the game has started and we've already decided who goes mid.

Yeah I'll pick a mid hero or a carry. Kag's confirmed it, so be warned.
 
some kind of update started downloading. it's stuck at 99% and my PC works as if it's performing a heavy task.

EDIT: Yay, it's Ursa update.
 
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