The Outer Worlds 2 - Reviews Thread

sorry for the off topic but why was he banned permanently? he was a veteran, didnt he deserved another chance? what does one has to do here to get banned forever out of curiosity

Got a timed ban (I think it was a week) on GAF, immediately went on Icon and started bitching about GAF admin in open topics. Someone pointed it out here and that made his ban to be turned into a perm.

Yep. Here is one of the screenshots that was passed around at the time. I saw another where he just thumbed his nose at the mods and said he wasn't going to change. Basically talking a lot of shit on another board instead of just taking his ban like a man and trying to make an effort to be a part of the community.

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Very not interested.

I'm entirely, 100% over snark as a style of entertainment. Borderlands, Marvel, Outer Worlds, nearly every insurance commercial, most comedians. Snark is the most awful communication affliction of the 21st century. It didn't use to be this way, it's doesn't have to be this way.
If you want an RPG with actual great, non-marvelized writing ---->

 
Yep. Here is one of the screenshots that was passed around at the time. I saw another where he just thumbed his nose at the mods and said he wasn't going to change. Basically talking a lot of shit on another board instead of just taking his ban like a man and trying to make an effort to be a part of the community.

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First time learned the whole story.

Then my original judgement holds firmly.

Adam is a better fanboy than James.
 
The 8-10 scale is useless and non-illuminating. Its telling that the 3rd party marketers i mean videogame reviewers continue to use it.

From the text of these reviews it looks like this game will surprise no one. If you liked the original, this is a bigger flashier version. If you didnt, this is the same undistinguished rpg lite open world lite game with the same tinny snark.
 
I've just learned that i don't really give a damn about someones review (unless its a complete failure of a game) but i have my feelings if i like the game or not.
For this one i think i'm gonna like it.
 
The 8-10 scale is useless and non-illuminating. Its telling that the 3rd party marketers i mean videogame reviewers continue to use it.

From the text of these reviews it looks like this game will surprise no one. If you liked the original, this is a bigger flashier version. If you didnt, this is the same undistinguished rpg lite open world lite game with the same tinny snark.
Those sellout reviewers never ever give bad scores to games published by big platform holders, lets not forget concord got 62, redfall got 56, and they both shouldnt get more than 20-30 range.
Hell lets check woke rpg shit like vailguard and that dung still got 82, with 0 of the reviewers warning us about artrocities in that game, makes ppl think...
Edit: South of Midnight got fricken 77, starfield got 83, i rest my case, we all know what kind of quality those games are, they getting at least 20 points freebie, if not even 30 points ;)

Being crazy fanatic of bethesda games/rpgs(from way back- og xbox and morrowind) i barely managed to watch 2h stream of my fav streamer who i can watch endlessly even when he plays something shitty just coz he is entertaining as hell, thats how bad beginning of starfield was to stomach for me- not some casual genz fucker with tiktok brain and 15sec attention span, but actual bethesda/western rpg fanatic for well over 2 decades(dont even know how many thousands of hours total i spent in their games, likely close to 10k) =/
 
Yep. Here is one of the screenshots that was passed around at the time. I saw another where he just thumbed his nose at the mods and said he wasn't going to change. Basically talking a lot of shit on another board instead of just taking his ban like a man and trying to make an effort to be a part of the community.

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Anyway.....back on topic.
He's not wrong with that final sentence. People literally go into threads for games they have no interest in just to shit on them. I don't even go into the Intergalactic threads and I barely went into the Marathon one.
 
He's not wrong with that final sentence. People literally go into threads for games they have no interest in just to shit on them. I don't even go into the Intergalactic threads and I barely went into the Marathon one.

OTs are usually the best places to discuss games and not have a bunch of junk thrown at you, but this has gone way off topic
 
You and Chuck Berry Chuck Berry should start your own forum. I hear rofif rofif is looking for a new home

With his freaking mind.

Yes, the game was not very good. It was also Epic Store exclusive at launch.

Are you talking about Outer Worlds 1?

I thought it was on the PC Win store as well, I remember it being one of the first Day 1 game pass games I ever read about.
 
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Where did the fun edge for this developer go? An Obsidian Fallout in space open world rpg should be check full of cool stuff and interesting role playing elements but instead it's just "its good, competent writing and great shooting and looting with nice graphics".

Remember back when Fallout 3, New Vegas and Skyrim came out how gaming was exciting and felt like the sky was the limit for this medium? Now, everything is so sterile and neutered and yes, im talking about the writing and characters! Everything is corporate and devs comprised of progressives incapable of real humor and interesting writing.
 
He's not wrong with that final sentence. People literally go into threads for games they have no interest in just to shit on them. I don't even go into the Intergalactic threads and I barely went into the Marathon one.
I doubt there's a significant percentage of people who go into threads of games they truly don't care about "just to shit on them". That's a common accusation from people who don't like seeing a game they like criticized, which does nothing but try to invalidate those comments. That's more "toxic" behavior. If you've ever been on the other side of it you'd know how infuriating it is to have someone do that to you.
 
I have never forgotten av game as fast as the first one. I started it, played 2-3 hours. got off the first planet i think and then... never started the game again

dont even know why - just never bothered. I was quite surprised that they made a sequel to such a unassuming game.

This seems better but.. is it something worth playing or just as easily forgotten as the first?
 
Something in the 80th percentile.

World: "That's good"

Random gaffers:
Lets wait and see what the punters say. There is plenty of history that reviewers do not align with release impressions. It is absolutely the case with a pretty significant number of MGS games in this era. Fans wave around 80+ metacritics and then it becomes clear that the game is either pretty mid or perhaps just has narrow appeal. But hey it got 85 so it must be good right? I'd hold up Avowed as an example. Hit 80 in metacritic, general sentiment now doesn't really have the weight to support that. Its too mixed. Its subjective and all that but I think its a fair take.

From what I'm reading narrow appeal could definitely apply to OW2.
 
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I'd hold up Avowed as an example. Hit 80 in metacritic, general sentiment now doesn't really have the weight to support that. Its too mixed. Its subjective and all that but I think its a fair take.

General sentiment counts if it's from people who actually played the game, not the 'but woke' critique crowd whose only point of reference is smashjt or the like. 🤷‍♂️
 
He's not wrong with that final sentence. People literally go into threads for games they have no interest in just to shit on them. I don't even go into the Intergalactic threads and I barely went into the Marathon one.
He used to do that exact thing with games he didn't like, the irony is hilarious. Apparently it's only bad when it's a Sony game.
 
General sentiment counts if it's from people who actually played the game, not the 'but woke' critique crowd whose only point of reference is smashjt or the like.
I finished the game. It was a game of contradictions in terms of evaluating it. So from my pov it wasn't an 80, 70 would be fair. But I was more referring to general sentiment of people playing the game. I filter out the obvious warriors when I'm reading.

But just because the loudest are intolerant insecure individuals doesn't mean they don't sometimes have a point. There is such a thing as going too far and using a game as a pulpit instead of just being inclusive without setting out to alienate the mainstream. No one likes to be told repeatedly their world view is flawed. MS to me at least there is some truth that in gaming their diversity support needs to be toned down. The difference between having a mardi gras every day and just not giving a shit what peoples preference is and not judging. My utopia is no one cares. Games by their sort of low bitrate version of reality can feel forced even without a preacher at the helm. Make sure you tick those diversity boxes! How about just deciding if diversity is even relevant or fits before just ticking a box. Eg ensuring diversity in alien races or fantasy races or something. They aren't human!

/rant over.
 
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Seems like it is decent enough. Larger, more empty areas, so more filler to drag out "engagement". Combat and graphics are better, as I would expect. It sounds less funny and more bleak. Overall, I will likely grab it at some point. The companions look awful and worse than the first game, if that is even possible. Maybe they are more fun than they look, but they for sure do not look like fun.
 
VGC gave the game a 6/10. Has gripes about the satire coming from a studio owned by Microsoft


That being said, my gripes with Obsidian's latest became more prominent when I wasn't pulling a trigger. For starters, the anti-capitalist sentiment of the first game gains a different meaning in our current context. When you boot up The Outer Worlds 2 for the first time, Moon Man, the no-quite-a-Vault-Boy-equivalent mascot, tells you that "any similarities to real-world dystopian corporate branded hellscapes are purely coincidental." The satire is there from the start.

However, in the modern world, it's impossible to divorce these rhetorics from the fact that Obsidian is an Xbox Game Studio under Microsoft, a company that has perpetually laid off workers and shuttered studios in recent times. Some of the quotes provided by Xbox spokespersons ring similar bells to the corporate talk you can find in The Outer Worlds 2, such as saying that redundancies were made to "enhance our efficiency".

In one of the first settlements you set foot in, holographic signs repeat the tagline that you're not a cog in the machine, you're the cog in the machine that keeps everyone productive, and there are countless other examples, from conversations between scourged NPCs about being subjected to life-threatening labor to propaganda signs about union-busting.

There are times when The Outer Worlds 2 attempts to do meaningful commentary around these issues, but when said commentary is commodified freely as part of the marketing campaign for the game, how heavy can that blow land, if at all? As much as I searched for an answer, I couldn't find one.

The closest I got is the fact that both main factions suck in their own particular ways, and the game is constantly pushing you to pick one in order to receive support during tough moments of the main story. Ignoring this insistence altogether and just sticking with my crew of companions to the very end was the one act of the rebellion I could muster.


 
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