Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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At least 1 disconnect for the past 6+ games.

Fuck everyone who leaves. An abandon should lead to low priority for a few hours.

edit: add another 2 games. 1 abandon within 5 minutes for the first game and 5 total abandons for the second....................
 
Posed this question last night but no response...

Played batrider for the first time last night against OD...I lost mid but won the game. Is this supposed to be an unfavorable matchup for batrider? Just kept getting imprisoned for most of the laning phase and gave up first blood to him (by accident- totally misclicked). I did spam sticky napalm to keep OD from completely winning the lane and ganked the side lanes successfully.
 
It's a pretty miserable lane for Batrider. He doesn't have the range to bully out OD, so you just kinda gotta take it.

Cyborgmatt posted the model viewer shots for the new sets, they look a lot better (Razor looks straight out of Warframe though):

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Anybody else unable to connect to matches? I am playing on US West server and having problems.. :(

Edit: NVM, looks like I just have to update my game client.
 
Vee_One said:
Wow, the reporting system in this game sucks
Just got reported; for what I assume to be being the best player
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What do you mean by got reported? The other players told you they would report you? Or did you get a message saying you were sent to the low priority pool?

I've seen people whine because I wouldn't join their epic 1/2 vs 5 team fights and that they would report me and nothing ever came out of it.

I doubt you got sent in low priority for only being good...
 
Artanisix said:
It's a pretty miserable lane for Batrider. He doesn't have the range to bully out OD, so you just kinda gotta take it.

Cyborgmatt posted the model viewer shots for the new sets, they look a lot better (Razor looks straight out of Warframe though):
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Nope. They're all still bad.

Gully State said:
Posed this question last night but no response...

Played batrider for the first time last night against OD...I lost mid but won the game. Is this supposed to be an unfavorable matchup for batrider? Just kept getting imprisoned for most of the laning phase and gave up first blood to him (by accident- totally misclicked). I did spam sticky napalm to keep OD from completely winning the lane and ganked the side lanes successfully.
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most mids lose to OD if he's leveling and spamming astral like he's supposed to. most mids are dependent upon mana to harass the other mid, and OD does a damn fine job of making sure you have very little of it.
 
Artanisix said:
No problem, the games were lighthearted fun (for us gaffers at least). Plus I got a 13 minute rampage in our second game so what's not to like. What was the reaction they had though?
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They accused your team of getting info from casters/spectators. First on the failed mid smoke gank, which me and my friends who were watching told them straight up that they cant wait 20+ seconds to initiate. Milk was in the river in position to be ganked for like 15 of those 20+ seconds and they just didnt make thier move. Eventually a team is going to figure out a gank is coming when you travel from bottom to mid plus wait 20+ seconds hovering and waiting for the gank.

After we finally convinced them that nothing was suspicious about the smoke gank they started in saying that someone told Haly that they were going to gank WR bot because he fell back to tier 2 tower. I couldnt watch the replay with it being an inhouse to see what they were talking about.

Point is I know gaf house team didnt have anyone ghosting the match for them because gaf house team doesnt need that to beat those guys. I'm pretty sure if you guys 5 v 5'd them 100 times you'd probably win 100 times. Milk was almost casual in his Visage play in the second match.

They are good but not great players but they do practice hard and take their team seriously. They've also had to make some recent roster changes that have set them back a bit. That's why I wanted to set them up with a nice tough match they could learn more from than they do in normal team MM. They could have just taken the loss with some dignity and maybe caught a few after match pointers but instead they went all in on how convinced they were that something fishy was going on. I almost sensed some animosity from them after like "Hey thanks for setting us up like that Mana". Like maybe they thought I was trying to embarrass them. I just wanted to help a group of guys I know well and I know are taking their team very seriously.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Nope. They're all still bad.



most mids lose to OD if he's leveling and spamming astral like he's supposed to. most mids are dependent upon mana to harass the other mid, and OD does a damn fine job of making sure you have very little of it.
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I like the CK horse :3

And the weaver set is cool too!
 
I H8 Memes said:
That's why I wanted to set them up with a nice tough match they could learn more from than they do in normal team MM. They could have just taken the loss with some dignity and maybe caught a few after match pointers but instead they went all in on how convinced they were that something fishy was going on. I almost sensed some animosity from them after like "Hey thanks for setting us up like that Mana". Like maybe they thought I was trying to embarrass them. I just wanted to help a group of guys I know well and I know are taking their team very seriously.
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This the magic with Dota-like: if you win, you feel it is because of you, but if you lose, it is either your teammates who are bad, the other team which is cheating, or the setup which is faulty (lag, unresponsive controls, etc.).
 
I H8 Memes said:
They accused your team of getting info from casters/spectators. First on the failed mid smoke gank, which me and my friends who were watching told them straight up that they cant wait 20+ seconds to initiate. Milk was in the river in position to be ganked for like 15 of those 20+ seconds and they just didnt make thier move. Eventually a team is going to figure out a gank is coming when you travel from bottom to mid plus wait 20+ seconds hovering and waiting for the gank.

After we finally convinced them that nothing was suspicious about the smoke gank they started in saying that someone told Haly that they were going to gank WR bot because he fell back to tier 2 tower. I couldnt watch the replay with it being an inhouse to see what they were talking about.

Point is I know gaf house team didnt have anyone ghosting the match for them because gaf house team doesnt need that to beat those guys. I'm pretty sure if you guys 5 v 5'd them 100 times you'd probably win 100 times. Milk was almost casual in his Visage play in the second match.

They are good but not great players but they do practice hard and take their team seriously. They've also had to make some recent roster changes that have set them back a bit. That's why I wanted to set them up with a nice tough match they could learn more from than they do in normal team MM. They could have just taken the loss with some dignity and maybe caught a few after match pointers but instead they went all in on how convinced they were that something fishy was going on. I almost sensed some animosity from them after like "Hey thanks for setting us up like that Mana". Like maybe they thought I was trying to embarrass them. I just wanted to help a group of guys I know well and I know are taking their team very seriously.
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milk is a scumbag i wouldn't be surprised if someone was feeding him information, that's probably how he wins all his scrims
 
I H8 Memes said:
They accused your team of getting info from casters/spectators. First on the failed mid smoke gank, which me and my friends who were watching told them straight up that they cant wait 20+ seconds to initiate. Milk was in the river in position to be ganked for like 15 of those 20+ seconds and they just didnt make thier move. Eventually a team is going to figure out a gank is coming when you travel from bottom to mid plus wait 20+ seconds hovering and waiting for the gank.

After we finally convinced them that nothing was suspicious about the smoke gank they started in saying that someone told Haly that they were going to gank WR bot because he fell back to tier 2 tower. I couldnt watch the replay with it being an inhouse to see what they were talking about.

Point is I know gaf house team didnt have anyone ghosting the match for them because gaf house team doesnt need that to beat those guys. I'm pretty sure if you guys 5 v 5'd them 100 times you'd probably win 100 times. Milk was almost casual in his Visage play in the second match.

They are good but not great players but they do practice hard and take their team seriously. They've also had to make some recent roster changes that have set them back a bit. That's why I wanted to set them up with a nice tough match they could learn more from than they do in normal team MM. They could have just taken the loss with some dignity and maybe caught a few after match pointers but instead they went all in on how convinced they were that something fishy was going on. I almost sensed some animosity from them after like "Hey thanks for setting us up like that Mana". Like maybe they thought I was trying to embarrass them. I just wanted to help a group of guys I know well and I know are taking their team very seriously.
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LOL.

Milk did get ganked mid early levels in the first match. So when they got a gank right its fine but if it fails, they must be ghosting. I was in mumble that chat, no one ghosted at all.

Anbokr said:
milk is a scumbag i wouldn't be surprised if someone was feeding him information, that's probably how he wins all his scrims
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I think him and Final are in cahoots but I just don't have the proof yet.
 
The new courier which is a Cyborgmatt reference looks awesome. Want!

I still don't quite get Chinese censorship. The blood stuff I can understand but the skulls and stuff? I once asked my girlfriend who is from China and she couldn't give an explanation either.
 
This is something I haven't seen mentioned before, some sort of Metagame for compeititive teams. Not sure if it would be tied to just the TI3 or not. :
// Team Cup
"DOTA_TIP_TC_Title" "TEAM CUP"
"DOTA_TIP_TC_Desc" "Earn rewards for your favorite team and player!\nSelect your favorite team and player below, and whenever you win a matchmaking game, you'll earn some points for them. Every week we'll give rewards to the teams and players with the highest scoring fanbase!"
"DOTA_TIP_TC_FavTeam" "FAVORITE TEAM"
"DOTA_TIP_TC_FavTeam_Select" "SELECT YOUR FAVORITE TEAM"
"DOTA_TIP_TC_FavPlayer" "FAVORITE PLAYER"
"DOTA_TIP_TC_FavPlayer_Select" "SELECT YOUR FAVORITE PLAYER"
"DOTA_TIP_TC_Lock" "Lock My Selection"
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I H8 Memes said:
They accused your team of getting info from casters/spectators. First on the failed mid smoke gank, which me and my friends who were watching told them straight up that they cant wait 20+ seconds to initiate. Milk was in the river in position to be ganked for like 15 of those 20+ seconds and they just didnt make thier move. Eventually a team is going to figure out a gank is coming when you travel from bottom to mid plus wait 20+ seconds hovering and waiting for the gank.

After we finally convinced them that nothing was suspicious about the smoke gank they started in saying that someone told Haly that they were going to gank WR bot because he fell back to tier 2 tower. I couldnt watch the replay with it being an inhouse to see what they were talking about.

Point is I know gaf house team didnt have anyone ghosting the match for them because gaf house team doesnt need that to beat those guys. I'm pretty sure if you guys 5 v 5'd them 100 times you'd probably win 100 times. Milk was almost casual in his Visage play in the second match.

They are good but not great players but they do practice hard and take their team seriously. They've also had to make some recent roster changes that have set them back a bit. That's why I wanted to set them up with a nice tough match they could learn more from than they do in normal team MM. They could have just taken the loss with some dignity and maybe caught a few after match pointers but instead they went all in on how convinced they were that something fishy was going on. I almost sensed some animosity from them after like "Hey thanks for setting us up like that Mana". Like maybe they thought I was trying to embarrass them. I just wanted to help a group of guys I know well and I know are taking their team very seriously.
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Oh jeez. ~_~

There WAS one time where bzm accidentally ghosted by saying, gosh, these supports aren't even stacking or pulling the jungle camps, and it was really easy to infer that they were roaming. Completely moot though because at that exact moment, Bane showed up on my minimap by my tower middle. They weren't gonna kill my Visage being so underleveled anyway. And yeah, Haly was naturally playing safe because he's solo hard lane against a trilane, so of course he's gonna back super far.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why they though my first draft was a cheese strat, lol.

But well, if they ever wanna play again, without specs or whatever, just hit us up.
#ghosters #cheesestrats #nodignity
 
After we finally convinced them that nothing was suspicious about the smoke gank they started in saying that someone told Haly that they were going to gank WR bot because he fell back to tier 2 tower. I couldnt watch the replay with it being an inhouse to see what they were talking about.
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Tell them that was 100% GAME SENSE.
There WAS one time where bzm accidentally ghosted by saying, gosh, these supports aren't even stacking or pulling the jungle camps, and it was really easy to infer that they were roaming.
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Scum.

Btw, I can't ghost because I'm deaf.

PEACE.
 
I H8 Memes said:
They accused your team of getting info from casters/spectators. First on the failed mid smoke gank, which me and my friends who were watching told them straight up that they cant wait 20+ seconds to initiate. Milk was in the river in position to be ganked for like 15 of those 20+ seconds and they just didnt make thier move. Eventually a team is going to figure out a gank is coming when you travel from bottom to mid plus wait 20+ seconds hovering and waiting for the gank.

After we finally convinced them that nothing was suspicious about the smoke gank they started in saying that someone told Haly that they were going to gank WR bot because he fell back to tier 2 tower. I couldnt watch the replay with it being an inhouse to see what they were talking about.

Point is I know gaf house team didnt have anyone ghosting the match for them because gaf house team doesnt need that to beat those guys. I'm pretty sure if you guys 5 v 5'd them 100 times you'd probably win 100 times. Milk was almost casual in his Visage play in the second match.

They are good but not great players but they do practice hard and take their team seriously. They've also had to make some recent roster changes that have set them back a bit. That's why I wanted to set them up with a nice tough match they could learn more from than they do in normal team MM. They could have just taken the loss with some dignity and maybe caught a few after match pointers but instead they went all in on how convinced they were that something fishy was going on. I almost sensed some animosity from them after like "Hey thanks for setting us up like that Mana". Like maybe they thought I was trying to embarrass them. I just wanted to help a group of guys I know well and I know are taking their team very seriously.
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Maybe I should get in on one of those scrim games to make it more fair.
 
Haly said:
Probably the same reactions I had when final put you and kazabi on his team.
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Artanisix said:
lol we all know final is a scumbag inhouser

he'll say he shuffled teams but if you watch, he doesn't stop shuffling until the teams are stacked
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lol, these lies. I shuffle and you blame me if teams are stacked, if I don't you whine 'cause I don't shuffle.
also not true, I just hit the button until you want to start.
 
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