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DOTA 2 |OT6| Plz vote for Keeper of the Light Arcana
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GordonHalfman
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What's to deal with really? It's a team game this is bound to happen sometimes, and it's swings and roundabouts usually. Everyone has shit streaks sometimes, but I've played like 5 games in the last few days where my mid player just stomped and I barely had to do anything, I can't believe this doesn't happen to other people though no one talks about it.
Also recommend watching your own replays sometimes from a neutral perspective, as if you were casting the game. It can often give you some perspective on the game since it's easier to spot other people's mistakes than your own while playing.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
This is like a buffalo/Arizona super bowl.
Haunted
Member
ok, question for the Dota 2 pros here.
Legion Commander's Duel mutes the caster and the target, the wiki states that disables auto-casting unique attack modifiers. Desolator is a unique attack modifier. But, at the bottom of the page it lists the item abilities affected by the mute... and the desolator isn't listed.
So, simple question: does the desolator armour debuff work or not work during a duel?
Legion Commander's Duel mutes the caster and the target, the wiki states that disables auto-casting unique attack modifiers. Desolator is a unique attack modifier. But, at the bottom of the page it lists the item abilities affected by the mute... and the desolator isn't listed.
So, simple question: does the desolator armour debuff work or not work during a duel?
dis i agrees
Does not work. Hit them once before u dual too give debuff. But deso is prob not the item to get.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Why did they remove the compendium point purchasing before they revealed what the emoticon is going to be?
Guess I'll stay at level 70. I'd be pissed if I was closer to 100.
Guess I'll stay at level 70. I'd be pissed if I was closer to 100.
Freakinchair
Member
delicious fanboy tears
E: fuck mason
I'm a little late on this but
fuck mason
why the fuck wouldn't universe play void with his track record. One man chronos do not win you games.
LOL I AGREE. No offense to E-nerds but mason is 4/10 (HYUK).
GordonHalfman
Member
Desolator does work in duel, so does Eye of Skadi and chain lightning. Lifesteal orbs don't work tho and I think feedback doesn't. The UAM thing is probably just referring to stuff like frost arrows.
Haunted
Member
1-1 so far on the opinions!
SteveWinwood
Member
deso completely works
Oh man, that is pretty similar to the mistake that led to the creeper being created in Minecraft.
I'm jealous of you people actually in Seattle. Next year, next year.
SteveWinwood
Member
Greyface
They need to nerf abilities that damage towers. Shit like Nether Blast and Diabolic Edict are way too good at melting towers very early in the game. It takes a carry a long time and a lot of farm to be able to melt a tower the way those abilities do after only 5-10 minutes.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I'd also like to know this
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140721T22&p0=110&msg=TI4
I think it'll be an hour before the games start
http://twitchemotes.com/
Pureauthor
Member
Maybe a general buff to building durability to nerf pushing?
IDK, it's up to chilltoad how he wants to balance the game.
Also holy shit the Divine Anchor set is selling for 10 bucks on the Market, Kunkka's gonna be happy.
IDK, it's up to chilltoad how he wants to balance the game.
Also holy shit the Divine Anchor set is selling for 10 bucks on the Market, Kunkka's gonna be happy.
Heavy's Sandvich
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The only way to find out is to type it into twitch.
BibleThump = crying/sad
ROTK interview BibleThump
ResidentSleeper = boring
Wow this 70 minute chinese dota game is really gooResidentSleeper
Kreygasm = orgasm/amazing
CM finally picked Kreygasm
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Eh, is it a problem at your level? I'm not really seeing dedicated push strats in my games so much as just a lot of gankball
Nah, that's part of the point of those abilities.
One thing I am hoping for with the more organized pubs of Dota 2 is a style of Techies play where they play here like DP, going mid and blowing up the tower quickly, trapping important locations on the map and rotating for more towers. I expect many bad Techies, but I also expect decent ones that take towers.
Most of the heroes with those sort of abilities are pretty much glass cannons anyway. If a Leshrac / Pugna / Jakiro all need to get within tower range to use those sort of skills, you can push to keep the creep camps at bay or have someone gank.
GordonHalfman
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Meepo is more PogChamp
Emerson
May contain jokes =>
My point is this: if one single unchanging strategy (5 man deathball) has been unable to be successfully countered by literally every single other team invited to the event, then isn't it at least worth considering that the strategy is slightly overpowered in the current meta?
Most of these games haven't even been competitive. Just insane domination which is objectively bad for a spectator game. It's easy to say "they didn't adapt right" but NOBODY did, so really the more logical conclusion in my mind is that it's not even really possible to deal with consistently.
SteveWinwood
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A Sentient Keyboard
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But headshot procs can't miss. Why'd you want butterfly, specifically?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I like variety. TI3, IIRC, actually featured good variety. Some 80 minute farm fests. Some 20 minute push dominations. A lot of ~45 minute "protect the carry until teamfights" games. This International has seemed more homogenous in terms of strategy and therefore more boring for me to watch.
Yeah I think the complaints stem more from seeing one type of play dominate than from watching the actual strategy itself.
That said I think this year's TI has shown us a lot of variety in terms of play and characters, especially when you consider that there have been a few occasions where the same characters have been played in different positions (though not always beneficially). And while I rooted for EG and don't want Newbee to win, I'd be stupid if I didn't say that EG didn't adapt/were too greedy and Newbee/VG didn't earn their wins -- I mean Newbee had to work their way up from Phase 3! The only thing I'm miffed about is the lack of lycan picks, but that's just me.
GordonHalfman
Member
Game 2 of C9 vs Vici was one of the best games I've watched, and they showed they could counter Vici's deathball, although maybe they had to play out of their skull to do it. Who knows if they hadn't suddenly decided they were playing in a GiantBomb tournament for game 3 maybe it could have been a different TI.
Marauder Shields
Member
Hard to pick someone when he's banned all the time!
God I wish I could have seen what VG and Newbee could do with a Lycan on their team. 10 mins T3 ez.
Wow, Really surprised desolater works in dual. I don't think it should… You're supposed to be muted and it's a UAM. Does that mean deso works if you've been doomed as well? Are there other UAMs that work while muted? Pretty sure Icefrog is just what they call the magic 8ball in the valve office.
On the subject of the only thing that actually matters: How can anybody think that push strats are OP in dota? I'd say that they're traditionally cheesy gambles that normally don't work out… VGs play at TI4 doesn't all of a sudden make the strategy OP.
EG could have won, but they made terrible decisions in the draft and in the game. I would go so far to say that they should have won. It's not like VG's plan was a secret. Of all the the teams they beat yesterday EG had the best opportunity to develop and execute a counter strategy… but they failed, spectacularly. After all day of watching VG push their way to victory, they get to game 3 of the most important series of their career and say "I don't know, I guess imbersaw is good here?". And it's not that one pick lost them the game, it's that they didn't have a clear answer to what should have been an obvious problem.
You need to come to game 3 of that series see a first pick NP, second pick Veno and KNOW what they're going to do and exactly how you're going to stop it.
Then, even if you don't know what to do and you draft a shitty line up… and you make a shitty decision that's going to cost you Rax, you don't GG out of the semi finals because you're probably going to loose. Fuck that. You play that game out, even if playing it out means you team wipe again defending t4's 60 seconds from now.
Ask LGD why you don't GG out when you loose Rax.
On the subject of the only thing that actually matters: How can anybody think that push strats are OP in dota? I'd say that they're traditionally cheesy gambles that normally don't work out… VGs play at TI4 doesn't all of a sudden make the strategy OP.
EG could have won, but they made terrible decisions in the draft and in the game. I would go so far to say that they should have won. It's not like VG's plan was a secret. Of all the the teams they beat yesterday EG had the best opportunity to develop and execute a counter strategy… but they failed, spectacularly. After all day of watching VG push their way to victory, they get to game 3 of the most important series of their career and say "I don't know, I guess imbersaw is good here?". And it's not that one pick lost them the game, it's that they didn't have a clear answer to what should have been an obvious problem.
You need to come to game 3 of that series see a first pick NP, second pick Veno and KNOW what they're going to do and exactly how you're going to stop it.
Then, even if you don't know what to do and you draft a shitty line up… and you make a shitty decision that's going to cost you Rax, you don't GG out of the semi finals because you're probably going to loose. Fuck that. You play that game out, even if playing it out means you team wipe again defending t4's 60 seconds from now.
Ask LGD why you don't GG out when you loose Rax.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
All the good things have sold out.
Fuck people like that. Why do they even play ranked, especially if they don't care about their MMR and would rather just shit up everyone else's. Reminds of the boot stealing Windrunner I had on my team the other day.
This is why the mute button exist you know.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Noticed there was a 15 minute vital match yesterday in TI. In layman's terms, what went wrong for the losing team?
Not just the shop, just people here first thing in the morning.
If I did attend like I planned, taking the Monday off along with the Thursday and Friday was a stretch. I assume others are in the same situation.
Temporarily helps peace of mind but won't win you the game when you have an idiot like that.
Dreams-Visions
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I mean. Void, Seer, and in the end Kunkka all contributed to making the game toxic. It wasn't a one-man problem here. Seems only CM and DP were able to keep from acting toxic themselves. I know their feels. Feels bad.