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[1.09]

Don't agree at all

There is a reason why High MMR players do not smurf and play support heroes typically.

Hint: You have less control of the game as a support. Early? Yes you can rotate and gank etc. But even these ganks typically rely on the cores to be ready and in position. The support job is essentially to put the carries in a position to carry, after that they rely heavily on the actions of their carries.

Thus, supports rely more heavily on competent cores than a carry relies on competent supports.

stan king solely plays support and hes 8k iirc. BBB, aka Eagle, plays support a ton too and hes like 7.5

There's a few other examples, but its more the fact that playing support in pubs isnt as 'fun', so alot of pubstars dont enjoy it. Afterall, it is a game.

Infact you're just outright wrong in saying that supports have less control of the game.

In any high-level game most pubs can last hit creeps and will respond to pings. It's the support's job to make those pings mean something whehter it means lane control into chain pulls, ganks, or rotations.

FWM

 

[QuantumSquid]

hi guys

i'm trash

i've had some success with viper but i get made fun of for playing him because he's brain dead easy so i was wondering, what are some good beginner heroes?

i've already tried sven and axe. not my style

 

[Yazzees]

hi guys

i'm trash

i've had some success with viper but i get made fun of for playing him because he's brain dead easy so i was wondering, what are some good beginner heroes?

i've already tried sven and axe. not my style

I think Lifestealer and Juggernaut are the ideal beginner carries because they let you skip buying BKB, which trash players never want to buy. Don't jungle either of them. Not even Lifestealer. You won't learn anything doing that and you'll just be gimping your team.

 

[Uriah]

Player marks himself as top lane as dire, randoms gets ES, says he's going carry shaker.
We have an AM as well who proceeds to try and compete farm wise.
He fails and proceeds to feed nonstop.
I get the only kill on my team, game ends 44-1
Why do I do this to myself

 

[Deleted member 77995]

Stack took two rampages from me tonight.

Now accepting applicants.

 

[shadow2810]

I think I'm done with Peru NA server.

 

[rac]

so guys my psu is gone right?

 

[SecretMoblin]

hi guys

i'm trash

i've had some success with viper but i get made fun of for playing him because he's brain dead easy so i was wondering, what are some good beginner heroes?

i've already tried sven and axe. not my style

if you like the ranged lyfe you can also try sniper and drow, both are pretty simple heroes who have flexible item and skill builds and can sit back and clean up while everyone else is fumbling around

but yes jugg is fun and pretty straightforward

 

[Yazzees]

Player marks himself as top lane as dire, randoms gets ES, says he's going carry shaker.
We have an AM as well who proceeds to try and compete farm wise.
He fails and proceeds to feed nonstop.
I get the only kill on my team, game ends 44-1
Why do I do this to myself

how many steam games have you left untouched while this one burns a hole in your soul

today i had a freakout moment where i noticed i bought rocket league a year ago, probably in a moment of genuinely wanting to quit dota, but haven't touched it

it was like getting a glimpse of one's former sanity; the final reach out towards the sky before the abyss swallowed me whole

 

[Hazaro]

Woohoo finally got these done.

Loss we got outplayed
Draw was a miracle, we had a fucking Genji/Reaper vs a Pocketed Pharah, it's a miracle we got a draw from our Lucio swapping to Tracer on 99.9% last point on Defense.

 

[Sigismundo]

i need a list of viable anti-mage item choices once you reach the point of treads/bfury/vlad's/manta/basher please and thank you

presumably abyssal is one of them.

 

[Drkirby]

Blink/Hood/Diffusal is the prefered Anti-Mage build, it has a high synergy with his skill set.

 

[Yazzees]

i need a list of viable anti-mage item choices once you reach the point of treads/bfury/vlad's/manta/basher please and thank you

presumably abyssal is one of them.

in late-game people usually replace the treads with BoTs and a lot of people sell the vlad's and make someone else build one for the aura

they'll replace it with butterfly/bkb/heart depending on which they need the most, i see linken's sometimes lately too if there's a bane on the enemy team

 

[Sigismundo]

doc please i'm trying to help someone here and i wanted to make sure i didn't miss anything

 

[Yazzees]

i actually don't know why people rush full abyssal before other items so much on him instead of just sitting on the basher, that's a fuckton of money and how often do pubs build bkb anyway eheheh

 

[Monochromaticx]

vlads -> heart
manta
bots
abyssal
bfury -> stash it or sell it and get mkb or Daedalus
butterfly
eat moon shard

or better to have bkb instead of butterfly ?

 

[1.09]

i actually don't know why people rush full abyssal before other items so much on him instead of just sitting on the basher, that's a fuckton of money and how often do pubs build bkb anyway eheheh

hp, reliable first hit for manta uptime mostly.

Besides, what else would you get before, maybe a bfly? At this point in AM's item progression it doesn't matter he'll get another item in like 5 minutes. Better to have the abyssal ready for solo kill potential.

eheheh

 

[shira]

Woohoo finally got these done.

Loss we got outplayed
Draw was a miracle, we had a fucking Genji/Reaper vs a Pocketed Pharah, it's a miracle we got a draw from our Lucio swapping to Tracer on 99.9% last point on Defense.

Hazaro plz. This is Haikyuu Off-topic, not Overwatch North

 

[Imp the Dimp]

There's a few other examples, but its more the fact that playing support in pubs isnt as 'fun', so alot of pubstars dont enjoy it. Afterall, it is a game.

I think this is very much true. Certainly, preferences differ but the most played heroes according to Dotabuff are overwhelmingly cores which I think is down to how much more fun they are (on average) than supports.

 

[LucidMomentum]

Woohoo finally got these done.

Loss we got outplayed
Draw was a miracle, we had a fucking Genji/Reaper vs a Pocketed Pharah, it's a miracle we got a draw from our Lucio swapping to Tracer on 99.9% last point on Defense.

You did in ten matches what I couldn't do in a whole season. Lol.

 

[gai_shain]

i need a list of viable anti-mage item choices once you reach the point of treads/bfury/vlad's/manta/basher please and thank you

presumably abyssal is one of them.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2752246665

ignore the refresher, I just switched out my manta for a quest

 

[inkls]

Stack took two rampages from me tonight.

Now accepting applicants.

What about applicans?

 

[twobear]

antimage is trash, get into a real hero like brewmaster thank u

 

[M.D]

where u at talkin shit about og getting a direct invite now

dc looking like a na team alright

 

[Monochromaticx]

so seems like dc will be like cdec from last year, second place at ti then fail fail and fail.

 

[bbd23]

complexity LUL

 

[KingKong]

I dont think the results from their first games since TI in an online gimmick tournament mean that much

 

[1.09]

I dont think the results from their first games since TI in an online gimmick tournament mean that much

let the EU have their moment

 

[Chris R]

Dusa and Wraith King, what a mode

edit: lul gg col disband incoming

 

[kionedrik]

why is warlock an insta-pick all of the sudden?

 

[SecretMoblin]

antimage is trash, get into a real hero like brewmaster thank u

????? did you give that cac drew ur account?


anyway, br00 slays and is getting some major buffs, get into him now

 

[Twookie]

is there a more BORING hero to watch and play than dragonknight????

I think not

 

[Red UFO]

is there a more BORING hero to watch and play than dragonknight????

I think not

no lies detected

 

[fr0st]

is there a more BORING hero to watch and play than dragonknight????

I think not

wraith king?

 

[twobear]

is there a more BORING hero to watch and play than dragonknight????

I think not

to watch, naga

song song song song song song song song song song song song song [ 1hr 30 minutes pass ] illusions kill ancient

 

[bbd23]

lmao poor bulba man

 

[Chris R]

to watch, naga

song song song song song song song song song song song song song [ 1hr 30 minutes pass ] illusions kill ancient

My first ban each day for the elimination games so far

Rot in hell fishlady

 

[inkls]

is there a more BORING hero to watch and play than dragonknight????

I think not

Viper?

 

[Label]

to watch, naga

song song song song song song song song song song song song song [ 1hr 30 minutes pass ] illusions kill ancient

This is the correct fucking answer

What games are you guys taking about anyway?

 

[shira]

Owly boi, Owly boi
All about that Owly, boi

 

[bbd23]

Owly boi, Owly boi
All about that Owly, boi

cant wait to play through it this weekend

 

[Hazaro]

Hazaro plz. This is Haikyuu Off-topic, not Overwatch North

Ep 4 da gawd
guess boi is lame

You did in ten matches what I couldn't do in a whole season. Lol.

Just pick Zarya and Ana bruh. If you Q+E a firestrike you are at 100% energy, Reins love to spam it, then you just wipe the enemy team its really simple game.

Spoiler

I try harded and told team to join team voice in chat, called shots, flanks, coordinated ult status, and such. PMA

If you're having trouble 60% of the game is positioning and ults, 30% team comp. Can climb working on those.

 

[Omega Kirby]

I like to download a few matches of very intense matches between competetive teams before I sleep, is there any reccomendations? Dont spoil please the result

 

[shira]

I like to download a few matches of very intense matches between competetive teams before I sleep, is there any reccomendations? Dont spoil please the result

2751755320 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqAqlUrxUYA
2751994184 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp8YhEaK9jk

 

[Arol]

NP vs EG starting soon on Dotapit; should be good

https://www.twitch.tv/dotapit

 

[Hazaro]

NP vs EG starting soon on Dotapit; should be good

https://www.twitch.tv/dotapit

sumail storm pogchamp

 

[KingKong]

EG having two wisp players seems pretty pretty good

 

[Drkirby]

So I guess NP just want to try a second time against the Axe + Wisp combo.

 

[inkls]

Man the pros picking omni more and more. Clearly they haven't learned to buy diffusal at that level yet

 

[Qvoth]

goddamn that was a dominating performance by np there