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DOTA2 |OT15| anime only please
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https://www.twitch.tv/matumbaman
Currently playing against it, although he is very tilted after losing his boots
ah fuck I was making/eating dinner
how did it fare
wow, kemal out :O
who's this John dude? Binging him only shows a trombone player which I assume is not him.
also what is happening to their teamhouse in turkey?
It destroyed them, although the TA did some serious work as well. Though I think Mutumbamans team were being stupid as they kept trying to focus down Abba.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3038998341
shira
Member
that's the exact build order slahser goes too.
was the name of the Abbadon player Lazerus or something?
watching one of his(Slahser's that is) vods now, seems like when you get Radiance, it gets incredibly strong
meowsers, man
Doh, I thought in my original post I said it was Slasher. It was him indeed.
oh cool. I like that he is finding success with it. Slahser's a cool dude
shira
Member
LOL Tsunami just casted a FaceIt league game instead of an Open Qualifier.
DreamLeague Dota and James FPS.
DreamLeague Dota and James FPS.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how awful arc warden currently is?
Awful base dmg, 0 base armor paired with 1.9 agility gain which doesn't help his dmg at all either.
Flux: decent ability and the range scaling as well as the slow were 100% needed, but DPS is too inconsistent.
Magnetic field: not bad but is the only survivability tool he has and is easily countered by walking into it and any ranged carry is going to get mkb against him which means no butterfly and hurts his ehp so much lategame on top of having no armor.
Spark wraith: super inconsistent, making it hit only a single target instead of exploding in an AOE on impact means it can't even be used as a farming tool. Lategame useful for vision and then ice frog nerfed the vision.
Tempest double: the defining ability of the hero. Ice frog nerfed the cooldown to pre rapier arc warden and the duration to post rapier warden so now it's the worst of both worlds.
Talents:
Level 10: +20 flux DPS for a non-scaling inconsistent ability or +25 attack speed on a hero with poor agility gain?
Level 15: +200 HP or +30 dmg. The 30 dmg is actually good on a hero who needs dmg.
Level 20: +100 attack range or 10% CD reduction. The CD reduction is a joke. -1 sec for flux, -2 for magnetic field, -0. Something for spark wraith, -4 seconds for tempest double. Cdr is completely worthless.
Level 25: +175 spark wraith dmg (lol) or 30% lifesteal.
Hero feels like what's you'd imagine 12 slotted LD would be except you get there and unless you snowballed most of the time it feels like hard carries do more dmg than you do.
Laning is basically hit or miss. Hero is still a great zoner, but trading dmg-wise only works if they aren't standing in their creep wave and they most likely will have better right click and abilities that will hit you so you can't force them out of the wave unless ahead.
Hero was enabled in CM and no one plays him, the top players on dotabuff playing him are all in stacks so most likely only effective because of MMR disparity.
Awful base dmg, 0 base armor paired with 1.9 agility gain which doesn't help his dmg at all either.
Flux: decent ability and the range scaling as well as the slow were 100% needed, but DPS is too inconsistent.
Magnetic field: not bad but is the only survivability tool he has and is easily countered by walking into it and any ranged carry is going to get mkb against him which means no butterfly and hurts his ehp so much lategame on top of having no armor.
Spark wraith: super inconsistent, making it hit only a single target instead of exploding in an AOE on impact means it can't even be used as a farming tool. Lategame useful for vision and then ice frog nerfed the vision.
Tempest double: the defining ability of the hero. Ice frog nerfed the cooldown to pre rapier arc warden and the duration to post rapier warden so now it's the worst of both worlds.
Talents:
Level 10: +20 flux DPS for a non-scaling inconsistent ability or +25 attack speed on a hero with poor agility gain?
Level 15: +200 HP or +30 dmg. The 30 dmg is actually good on a hero who needs dmg.
Level 20: +100 attack range or 10% CD reduction. The CD reduction is a joke. -1 sec for flux, -2 for magnetic field, -0. Something for spark wraith, -4 seconds for tempest double. Cdr is completely worthless.
Level 25: +175 spark wraith dmg (lol) or 30% lifesteal.
Hero feels like what's you'd imagine 12 slotted LD would be except you get there and unless you snowballed most of the time it feels like hard carries do more dmg than you do.
Laning is basically hit or miss. Hero is still a great zoner, but trading dmg-wise only works if they aren't standing in their creep wave and they most likely will have better right click and abilities that will hit you so you can't force them out of the wave unless ahead.
Hero was enabled in CM and no one plays him, the top players on dotabuff playing him are all in stacks so most likely only effective because of MMR disparity.
tsunami643
Member
Tempest at 6 is like Rearm at 6, especially since the AW in question had no points in Mag Field yet and zero active items.
Hero is p garbo regardless.
ADFINEM Dota dropped its players because they did not renew their contracts, but the squad is staying together.
https://www.facebook.com/adfinemgg/...214583970957/2237466013145811/?type=3&theater
HOWEVER, MNT just followed TSM Reginald on twitter.
https://www.facebook.com/adfinemgg/...214583970957/2237466013145811/?type=3&theater
HOWEVER, MNT just followed TSM Reginald on twitter.
No it's not? Level 6 is the power spike that usually allows you to kill a hero if you can stack flux and spark wraiths. Just flux alone stacked is around 700 dmg full duration.
Sigismundo
Member
yup, the players are starting to follow him on twitter now. good pick-up for TSM and I'm happy for the boys. I hope they manage to negotiate a good salary as apparently their old salary was below minimum wage in Greece
although they did get all their tournament winnings for themselves
LucidMomentum
Member
Any good qualifier matches to watch tonight? Gonna finish my Overwatch placements then play some BotW and watch Dota.
Also holy shit if TSM picks up AF.
My friends all play League so I always joke that I cheer against TSM despite them having some of my favorite Melee / Hearthstone players. If they have a Dota 2 squad again that would be dope.
Also holy shit if TSM picks up AF.
My friends all play League so I always joke that I cheer against TSM despite them having some of my favorite Melee / Hearthstone players. If they have a Dota 2 squad again that would be dope.
NormalFish
Banned
Twitter responses aren't wrong. If EE is missing 6 figures, he should sue.
There's probably no contract and everything was a verbal agreement it something.
shira
Member
Lawyers in every discord contract negotiations now.
Tart Toter 9k
Member
Who had the bright idea of putting Slardars crush on W?!
I played Slardar for the first time in ages yesterday and managed to land a grand total of 0 blink + crush. I somehow always went blink + Sprint instead because i am so used to going blink + Q.
Heroes that go blink + Q:
Axe
Sven
Tiny
Brew
Cent
Sand King
Wraith King
Chaos Knight
Venge
Nyx
Rubick
Lion
Witch Doctor
+++
Heroes that go blink + W:
Slardar
???
I will rebind it ASAP but will that break the ctrl + for leveling it up?
I played Slardar for the first time in ages yesterday and managed to land a grand total of 0 blink + crush. I somehow always went blink + Sprint instead because i am so used to going blink + Q.
Heroes that go blink + Q:
Axe
Sven
Tiny
Brew
Cent
Sand King
Wraith King
Chaos Knight
Venge
Nyx
Rubick
Lion
Witch Doctor
+++
Heroes that go blink + W:
Slardar
???
I will rebind it ASAP but will that break the ctrl + for leveling it up?
Imp the Dimp
Member
Slardar crush on W is very counter intuitive, I agree with that. I like the hero but I don't think I ever got used to it. To be honest, I didn't look for solutions to remap buttons so I'm not sure if that's possible. Always took some time in the game getting used to it
Ogre?
Tart Toter 9k
Member
You guys can just do this:
It is what I have done because it threw me off whilst I was playing him as well.
I don't know about the leveling up question though because I am a dirty mouse level upper.
Yeah i remembered that they added that but i could not test it right now.
waxinlyrical
Member
Nah, fireblast is q on default. Maybe you're thinking of Crystal Maiden? Q is her slow nuke but W is her root/mini stun.
I too have been confused with Slardar's stun being on W instead of Q.
neurosisxeno
Member
holy shit, they had 60 kills in a 18min game wtf
Ogre's stun is Q tho
I honestly can't remember who it is off the top of my head but whenever I play them I always get it confused
[edit] slardar's abilities make sense to me because they're sort of in order I think? Like you use Q first to get into range and then W to stun once you get there
Please don't blink+stun with Lion, you get blink to get the most value out of your hex, so blink+W is the best way to do it.
There are tons of heroes with disables on W. Alch, DK,Morph and Lina all have stuns on W. CM, Naga and Slark have root-like abilities, OD has astral, Bat also had the mini-stun, etc. Rhasta even has a stun on E.
edit: underlord's W is also a root.
It's just a matter of knowing the heroes, there doesn't seem to be a specific key for a specific type of ability.
Tart Toter 9k
Member
But i get ravage on Lion all the time when i blink!
Yeah, my list was just at the top of my head and i really shouldn't have included heroes that can target their spells because they are more forgiving.
I should have only included heroes that have an aoe like effect that you have to land on a blink like Axe, Brew and Cent.
I'll bind Sprint to E, same key as Dark Seer's Surge.
I got a friend that bitches about that Slardar mapping as well and I thought he was just being dumb. Weird to hear other ppl bring it up. I personally don't have any muscle memory so strong that it persists regardless of the hero I play.
Same, this is kinda blowing my mind.
Zelda is still blowing my mind, and I don't think I have even seen half the game. This has become my favorite game of all time, for sure.
Also I figured out the thing I saw the other day Lake Hylia/Lake Floria spoilers:
Maybe it's just because I've been playing for years, but I know that on Slardar his stun was always second slot (W), I'm used to it and don't really see the issue with it. Lina's stun is in the second slot (W) as well.
As for heroes that blink + W: Lion, Alchemist (depending on the meta), Dragon Knight, Earthshaker if ult is on cooldown to name a few.
Also I figured out the thing I saw the other day Lake Hylia/Lake Floria spoilers:
Farosh, the dragon showed up when I was at Lake Floria. I managed to hit him with an arrow and he dropped a scale. Before I saw him, I had found the shrine of courage with the goddess statue, and it said I needed a scale from Farosh. Now I need to solve the mystery if the other two dragons I saw (Lake Hylia and near Gerudo tower) are Farosh or different dragons altogether.
Maybe it's just because I've been playing for years, but I know that on Slardar his stun was always second slot (W), I'm used to it and don't really see the issue with it. Lina's stun is in the second slot (W) as well.
As for heroes that blink + W: Lion, Alchemist (depending on the meta), Dragon Knight, Earthshaker if ult is on cooldown to name a few.
I'm actually curious for this thread what the ratio to legacy keys and not-legacy keys is.
Tart Toter 9k
Member
I'll admit that my list was bullshit and i could probably get used to Crush on W if i played a couple of games with Slardar but rebinding seems like the easier solution.
So after testing it seems that ctrl + Q now levels up Crush too but the order of the skills on the UI are unchanged. I'd rather get used to that.
Dat praise, but not undeserved IMO. I've somehow managed to get more shrines than korok seeds.
So after testing it seems that ctrl + Q now levels up Crush too but the order of the skills on the UI are unchanged. I'd rather get used to that.
Dat praise, but not undeserved IMO. I've somehow managed to get more shrines than korok seeds.
I've never had any problems with stun on W instead of Q. Come to think about it, I haven't really thought about this issue at all.
Y.up, this has become my favorite too, easily. It's the game I have always wanted, for a long, long time too. Thought MMORPG's were the only genre that could invoke the feelings that this game is giving me, but BotW has been proving it so so wrong. I absolutely love this game. It is SO fucking good.
Like, I'd never tell anyone to buy a console for a single game, but if it ever were a game to validate that decision, it'd be BotW.
not again
Y.up, this has become my favorite too, easily. It's the game I have always wanted, for a long, long time too. Thought MMORPG's were the only genre that could invoke the feelings that this game is giving me, but BotW has been proving it so so wrong. I absolutely love this game. It is SO fucking good.
Like, I'd never tell anyone to buy a console for a single game, but if it ever were a game to validate that decision, it'd be BotW.
sing stack about to lose
not again
I play Overwatch with some of my co-workers, and they normally hate console games and gave me shit for getting a Switch last week.I've never had any problems with stun on W instead of Q. Come to think about it, I haven't really thought about this issue at all.
Y.up, this has become my favorite too, easily. It's the game I have always wanted, for a long, long time too. Thought MMORPG's were the only genre that could invoke the feelings that this game is giving me, but BotW has been proving it so so wrong. I absolutely love this game. It is SO fucking good.
Like, I'd never tell anyone to buy a console for a single game, but if it ever were a game to validate that decision, it'd be BotW.
not again
Now they are considering dropping the $300 on one to play Zelda.
What do you use for abilities and items?
Honestly I suggest to to people that can't stand edge pan to use middle mouse.
I've used a lot of computer mice in my lifetime and I'm here to tell you there is not a middle mouse button in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF MANKIND that could handle the rigors of drag panning.
misses bull
Banned
I drag pan a lot because im a 3k scrub
neurosisxeno
Member
I imagine they use the number keys for abilities. Or they could use *cringe* classic keybindings.
Abilities: Q,E,R,F(T,G)
Items: Z,X,C,V,B,N
I use numbers for control groups. I might have to change it up but its been working for me. It's just the default WASD bindings that you can choose with a few buttons changed.