Dragon Age: Inquisition Review Thread
- Thread starter Quentyn
- Start date
- Status
Novum_Veritas
Member
I guess Denuvo, has an more complex .exe encryption, so it takes longer to decode it for cracking.
I don't see the need for bioware to insult everyone's intelligence by trying to justify their DRM with "its because multiplayer", when MP centric games from EA dont even use it "BF4".
Also did you actually go into that thread and read it or did you just see that image?
Ploid 3.0
Member
I don't see the need for bioware to insult everyone's intelligence by trying to justify their DRM with "its because multiplayer", when MP centric games from EA dont even use it "BF4".
Thanks for this post, reading what he said it seem like Denuvo isn't as bad as people feared. No tampering with EXE, I can deal with that as I never do that. Mods possible if someone is smart enough to figure out Frostbite 3, that's all I want. No harsh drm stuff like Ubisoft and it's Anno game with limited installs depending on how often you change your graphics card, cool.
Indeed, its a new system, and probably a lot of EA games will start to use it going forward.
That being said, this comes from the guys responsible for making the Sony rootkit, of course its DRM not matter what Bioware or them try to label it.
It it doesnt have any adverse effect on the game themselves, then i dont have a problem with it, despite not enjoying the fact that PC players are treated as if they were all potential criminals.
That being said, this comes from the guys responsible for making the Sony rootkit, of course its DRM not matter what Bioware or them try to label it.
It it doesnt have any adverse effect on the game themselves, then i dont have a problem with it, despite not enjoying the fact that PC players are treated as if they were all potential criminals.
Novum_Veritas
Member
You could slightly consider this thread as a pseudo OT.
The Strokes
Banned
I want to try EA Access' demo but I have doubts about how it works: it's six hours of gameplay or will the clock on the 'demo' continue to run even if I'm not playing?
RPGCrazied
Member
Just curious, but is there not going to be a Digital Foundry of this? So far, nothing.
Six hours of gameplay. You're limited to the Hinterlands.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Apparently comparisons between the consoles is embargoed.
Sunday or Monday depending on Shinobis mood and how flexible new OT rules are.
6h clock runs only when you have game turned on. Want save every minute for gameplay? Close the game when hitting the can or going for fridge.
I think DAI is very low in their priority list now that there has been MCC, ACU, FC 4 and CoD: AW basically released on top of each other.
Wasn't that just random, 100% made up, accusation by gaffer?
Bioware has always been short tempered, that's why I avoid their forums.
I don't see the need for bioware to insult everyone's intelligence by trying to justify their DRM with "its because multiplayer", when MP centric games from EA dont even use it "BF4".
They will always said to you something like : "you don't know what you're talking, you're a not dev".
I prefer Blizzard who gently troll people without being superior to them and try to explain from a player point of view things and at least they make me laugh.
That's why also I'm giving them a last chance with this game because I don't like how they talk to customers and how they threated this serie so far.
I hope this new game will be decent and an improvement compared to the previous titles.
It's a busy week for them, with Assassin's Creed: Unity essentially having to be done twice after the offline 'fix' was discovered, on top of that and Dragon Age: Inquisition there's also Far Cry 4 and probably something else that I've forgotten about. I'm surprised they haven't dropped dead entirely!
Is this true? I recall it just being a random member saying that it was totally because of an embargo, and not because they were busy.
All I have seen just that member post about it and even he didn't provide any proof. I assume he was joking.
Pankratous
Member
Okay guys, I've never played Dragon Age before. I've never been interested. This is reviewing really well though and the very little content I've seen seems alright.
What trailers are best? What is the best gameplay footage? I want to get interested.
What trailers are best? What is the best gameplay footage? I want to get interested.
LumpOfCole
Member
Oh I remember experiencing this with Battlefield 3 or Battlefield 4. It took me damn near 100 attempts to get a successful download; I remember figuring out that it was something related to my ISP download speeds starting off extremely fast and then settling down to decently fast.
I don't see the need for bioware to insult everyone's intelligence by trying to justify their DRM with "its because multiplayer", when MP centric games from EA dont even use it "BF4".
You sound like a Vancouver Canucks player called Alexander Burrows. Lol.
Thank you for that. I know people try to be careful, but sometimes stuff slips or how something is phrased will give it away, never mind the fact that people have different definitions of "spoiler".
Last Hearth
Member
I treat the rest of the world as potential criminals when I lock the door to my house in the morning when I go to work.
Last Hearth
Member
Yeah, but the rest of the world doesnt pay you for the privilege.
When I pay for the privilege of flying I have to be body scanned and treated as a potential terrorist. I can come up with a million examples and I don't see why people get bent out of shape about DRM, unless the process actually affects the game experience adversely. In which case it's the execution, not the concept of DRM, that's the problem.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Don't let some critic snuff out your Thedas adventure mate, trust in your inner fade rift, keep that pre-order and get amongst a pre-load!
Thank you. The new OT rules make spoilers pop up everywhere, even if people are being "careful".
Sentences like "Oh my gosh it it true that totally dark and terrible thing happens with that ONE important advisor with that ONE weapon?!?!" is still spoiler even if it doesn't say anything specific. ;_;
And yes above is just a fictional example on something I've seen floating around quite a lot.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Wasn't that just random, 100% made up, accusation by gaffer?
Yeah some post on gaf is what I'm basing it off of. I'm surprised there is no comparison yet if it's not the case. There's a thread for Farcry already.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Goddamn all of you I caved and I got it. Already got FC4 too. Damn GAF hype......!
Agreed. There's also quite a few spoilers in the wild already, including stuff I posted in this thread... for which I am sorry. Luckily there's a lot more stuff (good stuff!) that people don't know about yet
Ploid 3.0
Member
One is a service, when you buy a game you don't want to be constantly frisked to see if you installed over 3 different cards thus removing your rights to play the game for example. I do believe Denuvo isn't too bad as it seem to only protect the exe from being hacked or edited.
Anti-consumer DRM has been more common than not, from installing rootkits on your computer, to always online for single player games, to gimping performance, to limiting the number of installs of software you own.
And for what? Piracy is still rampant despite DRM, there is no direct correlation between strong DRM and increases in sales.
some companies have understood this and have stopped using DRM because they do their most to treat their customers with respect and quality software. Look at CDProjekt and The Witcher... no DRM whatsoever and that hasn't stopped the series from selling and getting both critical and commercial success.
Just because someone doesnt mind getting TSA's hand shoved up their innards, doesnt mean rest of the clients have to take it... so to speak.
RedHawkXIII
Member
I find this quote funny when having a robot in a pirate suit as an avatar.
Admiral Woofington
Member
so those that have played with the demo already, has somebody given a try to the male british VA? I havent seen any gameplay with him all I see is the american VA
Green Yoshi
Member
A short video of the 360-version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNSy3NOATZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNSy3NOATZE
Indeed, because not having an Avatar must mean you have something to hide... interweb logic is a wonder to behold.
Last Hearth
Member
Once again, you seem to confuse the issue of concept versus execution. Obviously I would want security screens, just as I would want DRM, to be done in the least intrusive, most convenient way possible.
So when it is intrusive, when it is inconvenient, I criticism the process and ask them to improve it. I don't use it as a reason to claim that airport screening should be abandoned completely, same applies to DRM. CD-Projekt can do what they do, I also personally know people who pirated Witcher 1 and 2 and played the whole game without paying. So it's not clear to me that the solution they chose is the model that everyone else should follow.
CrichtonKicks
Member
I suspect there is more interest in comparisons for AC: Unity and Farcry than DA:I. Also DF may have code for Xbone and PS4 editions of GTAV as well so it could just be a question of priority.
Admiral Woofington
Member
There definitely isn't an embargo in comparison of versions, because IGN uploaded a video about PS4 vs Xbone vs ultra PC. Sure it's in youtube so you can't really tell, but still.
RedHawkXIII
Member
EricTheCleric
Member
Does this Denuvo shit not have a 24 hour check?
I have read that it needs to check the license/executable every 24 hours, which more or less makes this work like Microsofts horrible DRM that was planned for Xbox One.
I have read that it needs to check the license/executable every 24 hours, which more or less makes this work like Microsofts horrible DRM that was planned for Xbox One.
The problem is that more often than not, publishers take the path of least resistance and saddle us with bad DRM solutions all in the name of fighting piracy, when there is no correlation between harder to crack DRM and increase in sales, so why have it at all?
Anyways, this is not the place(thread) to rehash a topic, sorry to have derailed the thread with it. Hopefully EA's solution will prove to not have an impact on us the paying customers of DA:I, and game will run fine regardless.
LumpOfCole
Member
Bioware is stating that Denuvo isn't the software DRM solution for DA:I (the DRM solution they are using is Origin DRM); Denuvo supplied an encryption layer on the DA:I executable that prevents it from being modified.
I'll be there
After I complete the game.
P.S. You've been excellent in providing impressions and stuff, really appreciate it buddy.
LumpOfCole
Member
So what's the OT title going to be? I'm guessing Dragon Age Inquisition |OT| Escape from Shit Mountain
Everywhere or just in the US?
In a previous post I linked a video that show the game in low and ultra configuration PC. Well, I saw a new video where the guy play in low res and this plastic texture is really disturbing, imo.
Source : http://youtu.be/sVw7-1G26ss
I live in the Netherlands, and it says I can only start preloading on 17 November. However, if you know how to use VPN software, you can log into an american VPN, start origin, start the preload, and then disconnect from the VPN. You will download the game at your normal speed this way. Worked perfectly for me.
- Status