Dragon Ball Super |OT6| Put your back into it.
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omnislayer
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Janemba is probably one of the hardest to fit since it takes place while Vegeta is still dead, severally limiting the possible time frame.
Host Samurai
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Yeah these last 2 movies were very good, but I also liked every movie....even Bio Broly and Slug.
I'll say that these were excellent
Garlic Jr
Worlds Strongest
Broly -1
Bojack
Janemba
Tapion
Janemba is he hardest one to bullsht into the story. It's legit impossible
Taking something's into account like movie 2/3 you can say takes place post Frieza with the excuse that Goku didn't go all out and used Kaio Ken.
Undead Fantasy
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Movie 7?
NoctisVsStar
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I hope so. DBZ for the FGC? Now that would be something or make it play like marvel.
omnislayer
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Well that game already exists, it's called Hyper Dragon Ball Z and it's amazing. I can't imagine any official game ever surpassing it in terms of gameplay.
This has an extremely limited roster, no online, no scene and no financial support to become "FGC" though.
If they get a good developer I don't see why the gameplay can't be good in an official game.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I'd love to make all the movie characters canon. The majority are excellent both in terms of design and characterization.
Icyflamez96
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But did you hear him speaking Japanese, or was he speaking English in a voice that sounded like his Japanese voice???
TeamLeftMatch
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To be fair thats from Dragon Ball Fusions. The game is ridiculous with its fusion's
And I love every second of it.
omnislayer
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The problem now is since Hyper exists I'll be judging future DB fighters against it. I'm sure the next DB fighter will be perfectly fine but I doubt we'd get something as deep as HDBZ. I hope I'm wrong of course.
I wish Bamco would just tell Arcsys "hey, make a tournament grade fighter, we can't have a mugen fan game taking the FGC" but that would never happen, they don't care about that.
Undead Fantasy
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That's not a movie character....
Host Samurai
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8. But yeah 7 was good too.
I doubt we will ever get another movie unless it takes place during a timeskip that has little implications on the core events.
And Gogeta isn't canon yet
And unless they want to make the advantage of Gogeta that the fusion can sustain Blue for the full half hour, he'll probably never exist.
Then again I do want there to be something Goku and Vegeta can do to make Blue last the full hour. Be cool if the problem was them leaking Ki or whatever.
I mean, speaking hypothetically here, but it'd get a better roster, HD fancy graphics and sick super attacks, online modes, single player modes, maybe it'd have proper tag team (not the mugen mess) which could make up for the individual characters being less deep than Hyper DBZ but have new depth through their combinations etc...
On top of that it would receive updates, get an actual scene, and competitive support from Bandai to organize the tournaments.
We're not talking a CC2 naruto game here, we're talking about a potential developer that is used to fighters. They would never make the game super hard(stuff like 1 frame links have no place in a game like that IMO) because they need accessibility, but that doesn't mean it can't be deep.
The FGC goes where the money is though, you can't seriously think the FGC is playing Hyper DBZ competitively.
Plus, if arcsys made such a game, they would still have to follow some rules, like having an execution barrier that isn't putting off casuals entirely. It'd be their job to find a way to keep the game compelling at higher level though. Doesn't mean the game would be bad just because it's not as deep as Hyper DBZ.
As long as they don't ask Capcom to handle it, we're good !
Get IKEMEN.
Undead Fantasy
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That -1 confused me lol.
Tal Shiar Agent
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As long as we eventually get a Xenoverse 3 I don't care what this year's main game is.
Side note, even though it's pretty shallow I do enjoy Extreme Butoden and would enjoy a good console 2D fighter.
Side note, even though it's pretty shallow I do enjoy Extreme Butoden and would enjoy a good console 2D fighter.
omnislayer
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They haven't proven they can even make a semi competitive DBZ game outside of Budokai 3 and Super DBZ and those were a long time ago.
I feel like they haven't really tried and have no interest in trying. I'd love this mysterious new fighter to have at least some competitive focus but I have my doubts.
The only movie characters that I give a shit about are
I like the Android 13 and Bardock movies too, but I could really care less that either of them exist.
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Also I will never understand how people remember the names of the movies by number.
Bardock
Future Gohan
Janemba
Meta-Cooler
Broly (in that he sucks and thus generates an emotional reaction from me)
Future Gohan
Janemba
Meta-Cooler
Broly (in that he sucks and thus generates an emotional reaction from me)
I like the Android 13 and Bardock movies too, but I could really care less that either of them exist.
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Also I will never understand how people remember the names of the movies by number.
roflwaffles
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As long as we agree that all 3 accounts are dumb, I have no issue with your opinion lol.
TeamLeftMatch
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By virtue of how the other dbz game series went Xenoverse 3 should be the best one. I hope Bandai experiment more with DBZ because fusions was great.
0 chance we get Xenoverse 3 anytime soon. I'd rather they wait.
2 times they've missed Super content and had to push it in DLC, with Xenoverse 2 only having movie stuff.
It's not their fault, but it just doesn't look good when Super's been out, there's no Super content, and most people buying it don't understand the reason why.
Starting 2 with Raditz was a terrible idea, maybe not starting with Raditz, but not having any movie integrations. The story was weird in the beginning as well, it the movie integration didn't really feel natural until the Frieza missions. Then Cooler fucked everything up. Then the Majin arc salvaged everything.
omnislayer
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At this point I want to see one of 2 types of DB games.
A traditional fighter with gameplay good enough for competitive replayability.
Or some kind of persistent open world action adventure game, where you can fly around a giant recreation of the dragon world.
I've wanted that second thing for a long time but I'm not sure how it would work or if it'd be doable.
A traditional fighter with gameplay good enough for competitive replayability.
Or some kind of persistent open world action adventure game, where you can fly around a giant recreation of the dragon world.
I've wanted that second thing for a long time but I'm not sure how it would work or if it'd be doable.
Esports weren't a thing back then though.
Bandai did try to push Naruto as a competitive game, it failed for its own sets of reasons.
They briefly tried with XV and gave up instantly because it's a garbage "competitive" game.
If they were (note the conditional) making a "fighting game" that isn't a 3d simulation game, with some ambition to be present at esports, I would think they have good chances to succeed ?
DBZ games got significantly worse because they made less and less money and they needed new games to make up for loss profit , and they had less and less budgets. Xenoverse, Dokkan Battle and Super saved DBZ.
Enough to get something new out of it, even if it's less profitable for them.
That's my take on it anyway.
You should be optimistic.
CherryWoodFuton
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If it was pre next gen Capcom I would be on board but the way they fucked up SF 5 I wouldn't want them near a DBZ fighter
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
That's probably one reason why we aren't getting Xenoverse 3 this year. If it comes out next Fall 2018 or Spring 2019 they'd be able to include everything up through the current arc.
I would pay for two more DLC packs with Universal Survival Saga content for XV2 though.
omnislayer
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I've fucking loved Dragon Ball games since Budokai first came out, and while Budokai 3 was a clear franchise high point I've enjoyed most games since then. I just want them to take it further and make something fantastic again.
I'm of 2 minds here, I just want a playable fighting game, that will probably happen.
But I also want something special and that's a lot less likely.
Whatever it ends up being I'm sure I'll probably like it, I somehow liked Burst Limit! Haha.
had they done sequels BL 3 could of been so good sigh
Undead Fantasy
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But he appeared in the anime first.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Don't let ASW touch it
Ultra Numb
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"Limitless potential"
If you turn off the drama piece and focus on the fights, while ignoring the roster, Burst Limit is a pretty good game. It has great combat.
Personally I dislike DBZ games where you can't jump though. But Burst limit was good.
Also, unless there are projects for Nintendo Switch or HOPEFULLY a new mobile game and not this dokkan garbage, I think the only special thing you'll get is the next Xenoverse, which should be far more polished.
Now back to potential fighting games, I feel like this is the first opportunity they actually had, to make such thing.
1) esports are more popular than ever
2) dbz is back full force with super
3) games make a lot of profit which can allow riskier projects
4) They do have Harada, who pushes for Esports within Bandai
Let's cross our fingers.
Wait, so you don't like Gohan AND ASW ?
Holy fuck that's almost as bad as HeroR liking Indiana Jones IV and disliking Raiders.
And in the manga. Though my understanding is he's lame in the manga.
Was Future Gohan mentioned in Super's Manga?
omnislayer
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I agree with everything you say here. Now I'm usually the most optimistic person around, but I did let myself fall into pessimism a bit there.If you turn off the drama piece and focus on the fights, while ignoring the roster, Burst Limit is a pretty good game. It has great combat.
Personally I dislike DBZ games where you can't jump though. But Burst limit was good.
Also, unless there are projects for Nintendo Switch or HOPEFULLY a new mobile game and not this dokkan garbage, I think the only special thing you'll get is the next Xenoverse, which should be far more polished.
Now back to potential fighting games, I feel like this is the first opportunity they actually had, to make such thing.
1) esports are more popular than ever
2) dbz is back full force with super
3) games make a lot of profit which can allow riskier projects
4) They do have Harada, who pushes for Esports within Bandai
Let's cross our fingers.
I still think Burst Limit could of evolved into something great if they just gave it another shot.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I've only seen Last Crusade but I love that movie. Mostly for Sean Connery being a goofy dad
ASW already had like 4 tries at DBZ games and they weren't any good, if they make it like their usually games I doubt it'd be any good.
ASW already had like 4 tries at DBZ games and they weren't any good, if they make it like their usually games I doubt it'd be any good.
TeamLeftMatch
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Curious what games have you tried. If you're sick of official Hyper DBZ is the best DBZ fan game I've seen
Undead Fantasy
Member
I have no idea.
Well first of all, I enjoyed the super sonic warriors games.
But they also never had a shot at a full fledge console game for DBZ. The scope is always greatly limited when it's on handled. (because targeted at kids + bad controls for the genre)
Look at their hokuto no ken game, blazblue and guilty gear. With proper budget and ambition, they could make a sick Dragon Ball game.
You're right, I completely forgot episode 135.
I have no goddamn clue what episode 135 was.
Also, with Dragonball games, I am 99% sure whatever the next game is will have janky knee-punching flight.
The might have fucked up the content at launch, but the gameplay is great and they keep supporting the game post launch, so if they could get great gameplay on a Dragon Ball based proper fighting game, then I would let Capcom do it, no question.
Before MvCI was a thing, I was entertaining the idea of getting a Shonen Jump vs Capcom, that would have been a great idea too, in my opininon of course.
Edit: And to be honest, I don't want another RPG game like XV2 or another one of the "fighters" like Budokai, Raging Blast and all of those, the only DB game I want right now is a proper and competitive fighting game.
In fact, Future Gohan is not lame in the manga.
In the anime, they turned Gohan into a moron because he goes to fight both androids at the same time without Trunks, and gets killed.
In the manga, he thinks he is stronger than the androids, but 17 reveals they were deliberately hiding their true power from him, so his assumption was wrong and he pays a fatal price.
Basically in the anime he dies because he's over confident and dumb, in the manga he dies because 17 deceived him, he was playing a rigged game.
What does that mean ?
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
4K sprite-work DBZ 2D fighter on PS4 Pro.
Trunks mentions he learned Solar Flare from him.
I'd go for a style similar to what ASW accomplished with GG Xrd, I feel that's what would work best for DB.
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