Icyflamez96
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have ya'll seen this https://twitter.com/SeanSchemmel/status/855508815227244544
Dragon Ball Super |OT6| Put your back into it.
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RocknRola
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That Final-Final form on Cooler was cool, but clearly something that wouldn't be on the show. AT always went for "simple" final forms. You can see that in all the main baddies in DBZ.
Still, it looked badass, no doubts about it! Not so much of a fan of Mecha Cooler but eh, can't win them all I suppose.
Still, it looked badass, no doubts about it! Not so much of a fan of Mecha Cooler but eh, can't win them all I suppose.
Undead Fantasy
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So he won't change the voice.
Ugh.
I really hope he sticks with his Rose voice for base Black. The voice for base Black is just awful.
I am personally fine with his Rose voice. He just need to drop the British overtone a little. His base Black voice could work too if he lower it and made it less gravel.
Undead Fantasy
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The Rose voice while not great it's OK.
The base Black voice reminds me of the god awful old Funi dub. It needs to go away.
I also feel it's very stupid to change voices when he transforms. That makes no sense.
BBQMan
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They almost sound like two different characters lmao.
Undead Fantasy
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You're trying to compared the quality of how Sean will sound like in Super to Xenoverse. This is despite Xenoverse having terrible dubbing because the voice actors were forced to read off a script and couldn't even match their voice to the lip-sync since they were provided no footage. In most cases, they weren't even giving context to what they were saying. Just read the script. TFS talked about this.
And Goku's voice changes on transformation happens even in the Japanese. Black speaks more like Goku once he get Super Saiyan Rose. And I don't mind since I liked the "god awful old Funi dub".
Goku does that all the time in the Funi dub. His Super Saiyan 3's voice is noticeably deeper to the point of being a baritone. The same with Super Saiyan 4. It doesn't sound that good in Xenoverse since the dub had horrible vocal direction for the reasons I named above. TFS talked about this. Even the Japanese's vocal are mediocre in Xenoverse as fans of the sub will tell you, especially Cell who sounds bored. People even noted that Nozawa was phoning in her Xenoverse performance.
Did the '"Japanese client" also love him referring to a power-up as "Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black"? Just awful.
Is there a good reason for that is not like it's a common transformation even Goku black calls it that for some reason in the game
They fucked up badly, Goku Black never refers to himself as Black in the anime so I don't know what went wrong there, it just sounds so wrong to hear him say "This is Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black"
And yeah, Zamasu's English VA is fucking awful and it'll be disappointing if Sean doesn't change Goku Black's voice for the anime. The Rosé voice is almost perfect, but regular Black's voice sucks, it needs to go away.
He said it in Japanese too, so yes.
Lucky Seven
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I hope he changes base form Black. That voice wasn't very impressive. Wouldn't mind if it stays, but it could definitely be better.
I don't remember the old dub for the Buu arc that much, but in Super his SS3 voice isn't that different. It's definitely deeper but not nearly the difference between regular Black and Rose black. That sounds like two completely different characters.
Either way, the Funi dub of those characters will certainly be better than the Xenoverse versions.
Black is indeed deep than Super Saiyan 3. He's closer to Super Saiyan 4. And it really doesn't since the only real different is tone. The reason why it sounds vastly different is that Rose Black has a British accent. Actually TFS clips of Super did almost the same thing irony.
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I wonder if you can choose what color god ki manifests as, or if that was just something Zamasu figured out how to do. I always thought blue was a random choice (in-universe, obviously it was originally meant to contrast with Freeza)
BBQMan
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Goku doesnt sound like two different people and gain an accent when he goes Super Saiyan. Sean also said these are the voices he will be using for the dub as both were ok'd by Funi and Toei
Icyflamez96
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Not a Transformation, but it was so fucking hype.
The better Kaioken x10: https://youtu.be/4wG84efH4sw?t=1m42s
He did? Well that's a shame.
Don't worry Hard, we're safe. Castañeda can only do slight variations of the same voice
English Speakers though...yeah tough shit. Seems like Schemmel is not open to feedback and thinks English Goku exists in a vacuum were the audience don't know about the original performance.
It's not the 90's anymore Sean
Don't worry Hard, we're safe. Castañeda can only do slight variations of the same voice
English Speakers though...yeah tough shit. Seems like Schemmel is not open to feedback and thinks English Goku exists in a vacuum were the audience don't know about the original performance.
It's not the 90's anymore Sean
He knows that English Goku doesn't exists in a vacuum. What are you even talking about. He acknowledged Nozawa, her talent, and often praises her. He even personally met Nozawa and they had a joint panel a couple of years ago. Not to mention, Funi offers both dub and sub since decades of Dragon Ball. However, he has explicitly said that he doesn't want to copy her. He wants to capture Goku's spirit his way instead of trying to mimic someone's else performance. He even had a discussion with Nozawa about how they both interpret Goku. And if Funi and Toei are okay with it and neither of them certain don't exist in a vacuum, I don't see why this statement exists.
Honestly, it's the fandom who is still stuck in the 90s with comments like these.
I meant in regards to the audience, he seems to think that he can take liberties such as adding a freaking transformation triggered voice change because he is english Goku and he knows best about him. So people will just accept that.
People have been giving feedback about the voice since he revealed it. People don't really like it.
It's one thing to do your own thing with the character, but in my opinion, he is taking it way too far.
In Latin America, Gohan's replacement voice actor for Kai was constantly told that she should not keep her extremely high pitched kiddy voice for Gohan now that she was going to dub Teen Gohan, people at cons and interviews asked her to please keep that in mind.
She didn't,she destroyed the SSJ2 scene, ratings were shit, and now we're back to the full original cast for Buu Kai and Super.
So yeah, listen to your audience a bit.
He freely admits that he takes liberties when he does any character, not just Goku. This is actually encouraged since most English voice actors are told not to do copy and past preferences of the English version. The main focused is to stay true to the spirit of the character.
As I said, if Toei and Funi are fine with it and even encouraged it, he doesn't have to listen to fans on Twitter, especially since those fans are just a loud, vocal minority. Especially since Xenoverse in general have subpar dubs even in its home language.
Host Samurai
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Idk, Perfect Cell or Cell in general wasn't so simple.
Host Samurai
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I've always wondered why he wasn't in Shredder form in that movie. It's funny how TFS made mention of it too.
I agree with you.
To me the problem with his voice it that reduces Black to the generic angry evil clone we all feared he'd be when revealed.
Icyflamez96
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How So? I haven't seen it in forever.
Meta Cooler is based more on the Borg than any Dragonball villain.
The Meta Cooler that they face off against first is just a copy, and there are tons of them. As Goku and Vegeta damage them, they just repair themselves stronger than before.
The actual Meta Cooler is a severed head inside of the Big Gete Star that controls the rest. I think he also controls the Cycloid robots as well.
A lot of the Dragonball movie villains are obviously based primarily on a series villain (Piccolo -> Lord Slug, Vegeta -> Turles, Freeza -> Cooler, Cell -> Android 13 and Bojack, Buu -> Janemba) so I find Meta Cooler to be incredibly refreshing.
holy crap im in tears
NoctisVsStar
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It was going to be hammy anyway.. #TeamSub
That's a good point for the original voice, but how do you feel about the faux British one he did for Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black)?
My issue is that Goku Black is a creepy fucker. Goku points it out when Black starts acting all masochistic, Vegeta clearly feels that way when Black stabs himself in the hand to power up his energy blade. I really like that aspect and Nozawa played it up well.
Lmao. Best Dub!
Bio Broly is a more unique and interesting character than him.
Man I can't wait for Castañeda's Black. I may not like him as a dubber for other things since he basically has just one voice, but his Goku voice is iconic and I grew up with it.Don't worry Hard, we're safe. Castañeda can only do slight variations of the same voice
English Speakers though...yeah tough shit. Seems like Schemmel is not open to feedback and thinks English Goku exists in a vacuum were the audience don't know about the original performance.
It's not the 90's anymore Sean
Granted, I don't think any other Dragonball villains were just big piles of goo, so he's definitely won on the uniqueness front. But I think Meta Cooler ended up being more interesting.
the guy who does Roshi in the LA dub uses the same voice in movies and it is super distracting
don't mind Goku doing the same
BBQMan
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Except Buu's ability to be goo.
We all know that Buu made out of bubblegum, which should not be confused with goo despite being highly goolike in appearance.
Undead Fantasy
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Welp guess the dub of the arc will be trash then
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