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[NandoGip]

SSJ2 Goku.
SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
SP Cell.
Broly M10.
SSJ2 Teen Gohan.
Dabura.
SSJ Goku + powers from others M8.
Broly M8.

So, why would you say that Broly's power is different between the movies? Zenkai boost? lol

SSJ2 Teen Gohan was about even to Dabura, and couldn't even beat Broly. People keep saying Dabura is about Cell level in Strength, and could have beat Teen Gohan, so that means Broly could beat both Dabura and Cell easily, and possibly SSJ2 Kid Gohan.

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

So lets stop for a second. Correct what I have wrong below:

Super Perfect Cell will be the baseline

SSJ2 Cell-saga Gohan: Stronger than SPC

SSJ1 Cell-saga Gohan: Weaker than SPC

Buu-saga pre-ultimate SSj2 Gohan: Weaker than SSJ2 Gohan

Dabura: Was it or wasn't it stated he was equivalent to Cell? From what I recall watching, he was matched up pretty evenly with Buu-saga pre-ultimate SSJ2 Gohan. Posters seem to have evidence showing that he was Cell-level in power

Broly: Way stronger than Buu-saga pre-ultimate SSJ2 Gohan, difference in power shows he'd beat Dabura easily.

So far we can assume a few things. SP Cell and Broly are definitely stronger than Buu-saga pre-ultimate SSJ2 Gohan. Broly being so much stronger means that he'd beat Dabura. If Dabura is Cell level in strength, then Broly could beat Cell.

Now-

Goku with the power given to him from Gohan, Trunks, Vegeta, Piccolo: Stronger than Broly.

That means in this form, Goku would beat Buu-saga pre-ultimate SSJ2 Gohan, and SP Cell.

It might even be debatable that Broly could stand toe-to-toe or even beat SSJ2 Cell-saga Gohan. That means Goku with their power absorbed could too.


So that leaves us with a tier like this right now:

Goku (Everyone's power absorbed, pre-SSJ2 Cell-saga Gohan) (Beats Broly)
Broly (If Dabura is Cell-level in power, and was about even with Buu-Gohan, Broly is much stronger than all of the below)
SSJ2 Cell-saga Gohan (Equal or stronger than SP Cell)
SP Cell (Equal to Dabura?)
Dabura (Stronger than the below Gohan, but equivalent supposedly to Cell)
Buu-saga pre-ultimate SSj2 Gohan

I fixed some of the more major ones.

SSJ1 Cell-Games Gohan: Weaker than Perfect Cell but stronger than Cell Games Goku who should be stronger than Movie 8 SSJ Gohan. Cell didn't fight him at full power.
Dabura: Stated to be around Cell. Doesn't say which form or if he's stronger or weaker than him. Never really seemed to go full out on Gohan and calls him trash later.

Goku with the power given to him from half dead fighters such as Gohan, Trunks, Vegeta, Piccolo: Stronger than Broly.

Power Rankings.
SSJ3 Goku
SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta(stated to be stronger than SSJ2 Cell Saga Gohan)
SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Saga) Presumably SSJ2 Vegeta is here before Majin Power Up.
SPC Cell: damaged SSJ2 Kid Gohan and caused him to go to 50% of his power and is killed while being distracted by Vegeta.
Broly(movie 10) and Dabura tier
Perfect Cell (Full Power) and SSJ2 Gohan(Buu saga)
SSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
SSJ Goku movie 8(with half dead powers combined)
Movie 8 Broly
SSJ Goku (Cell Games)
SSJ Gohan (movie 8), SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Trunks
Oh no, I accidentally got dragged into a power level discussion tier
Everyone else

 

[Skeeter49]

But how does Bio Broly rank among Cell, Dabura, and the lesser Broly's?

 

[caliph95]

But how does Bio Broly rank among Cell, Dabura, and the lesser Broly's?

Stronger then Whis

 

[Undead Fantasy]

So, why would you say that Broly's power is different between the movies? Zenkai boost? lol

SSJ2 Teen Gohan was about even to Dabura, and couldn't even beat Broly. People keep saying Dabura is about Cell level in Strength, and could have beat Teen Gohan, so that means Broly could beat both Dabura and Cell easily, and possibly SSJ2 Kid Gohan.

Yes, that's the reason.

Yes, Dabura is equal to Cell but not SP Cell.

 

[JadedWriter]

But how does Bio Broly rank among Cell, Dabura, and the lesser Broly's?

How did they plot device him to be killed off by 18, Kid Trunks and Kid Goten again?

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

How did they plot device him to be killed off by 18, Kid Trunks and Kid Goten again?

.

 

[HardRojo]

*clicks DBS OT, power level discussion*

Lol, pretty much.

 

[Skeeter49]

How did they plot device him to be killed off by 18, Kid Trunks and Kid Goten again?

Goten's cell were mixed in with Bio Broly's, making him get weaker as he fights.

 

[JadedWriter]

Goten's cell were mixed in with Bio Broly's, making him get weaker as he fights.

I don't even know if that's truth or joke.

 

[Host Samurai]

So, why would you say that Broly's power is different between the movies? Zenkai boost? lol

SSJ2 Teen Gohan was about even to Dabura, and couldn't even beat Broly. People keep saying Dabura is about Cell level in Strength, and could have beat Teen Gohan, so that means Broly could beat both Dabura and Cell easily, and possibly SSJ2 Kid Gohan.

Agreed. I still think SSJ2 Teen Gohan would whoop SPC, who is seriously overrated in strength as 1/2 dead Gohan vaporized him. Broly>Dabra=Gohan>SPC and lol at the spin that Dabra is = to Perfect Cell and not Super Perfect. There is no logic in that. When Goku makes that statement he means Cell, why would assume Perfect? Makes no sense to me.

 

[LSauchelli]

Agreed. I still think SSJ2 Teen Gohan would whoop SPC, who is seriously overrated in strength as 1/2 dead Gohan vaporized him. Broly>Dabra=Gohan>SPC and lol at the spin that Dabra is = to Perfect Cell and not Super Perfect. There is no logic in that. When Goku makes that statement he means Cell, why would assume Perfect? Makes no sense to me.

Because Goku never actually saw SPC and actually felt how strong Regular Perfect Cell was, there's reason to believe that, when Goku says that Dabura is about as strong as Cell, he means Perfect Cell and not Super Perfect Cell or Semiperfect Cell, or Imperfect Cell.

Either way, it's semantics. I don't believe there's an end all be all source that states without a shadow of a doubt that it's one way or the other, and Broly is just a movie character so he's only as strong as that movie needed him to be.

 

[JadedWriter]

Yes...but can Broly beat Janemba?

 

[Host Samurai]

Because Goku never actually saw SPC and actually felt how strong Regular Perfect Cell was, there's reason to believe that, when Goku says that Dabura is about as strong as Cell, he means Perfect Cell and not Super Perfect Cell or Semiperfect Cell, or Imperfect Cell.

Either way, it's semantics. I don't believe there's an end all be all source that states without a shadow of a doubt that it's one way or the other, and Broly is just a movie character so he's only as strong as that movie needed him to be.

Goku can sense power levels in the afterlife. Of course he knew how strong SPC was.

And I doubt Broly can beat Janemba. I'll say he can wipe any villain up to Super Buu. Broly vs Fat Buu would be an epic fight as I think they're pretty close. I might have to give the edge to Broly here. I think he can vaporize him.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Yes...but can Broly beat Janemba?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpTThi8XAsQ

 

[JadedWriter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpTThi8XAsQ

I wasn't expecting there to be a vid answer to this...

 

[roflwaffles]

*clicks DBS OT, power level discussion*

Yep

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

Agreed. I still think SSJ2 Teen Gohan would whoop SPC, who is seriously overrated in strength as 1/2 dead Gohan vaporized him. Broly>Dabra=Gohan>SPC and lol at the spin that Dabra is = to Perfect Cell and not Super Perfect. There is no logic in that. When Goku makes that statement he means Cell, why would assume Perfect? Makes no sense to me.

If we're going to argue, Gohan with a single bang equals SSJ2, then Gohan wasn't even in his SSJ2 form when he fired the Kamehameha with Goten and killed Broly.

So there's little reason to suspect he could take Cell who was actually killed by the stronger version of Gohan

That's not even factoring in his regeneration.

 

[L Thammy]

I just remembered that I made a bunch of reaction type GIFs, but they're going to waste because I'm not the type who keeps a reaction image folder. Mind if I post them? The filesizes might be big, because I always hate reducing the quality and such.

Here's one for when you buy the newest Dragonball game and it turns out to be shit.

Here's one for when Gohan reveal his new move and takes down Jiren.

Here's one for when your favourite character is Tien but you're watching Super.

Got a couple more, but I don't want to just post them all suddenly in case people are connecting to the Internet via potato or something.

 

[RedAssedApe]

It has like best fucking Trunks in there too.

naw best base and ssj trunks is this one.

 

[Daingurse]

Saiyan armor Trunks is the best Trunks!

 

[DiipuSurotu]

 

[JadedWriter]

naw best base and ssj trunks is this one.

Yep...that's a damn good Trunks.

 

[Icyflamez96]

cheap wig

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Ponytail Trunks is the best

Here he is with Super colors

 

[Work of an Enemy Stand]

That is best Trunks. Either that, or that without the jacket and only the black tank top.

I was never a big fan of the Android saga Saiyan armor, but I could never pinpoint why.

To me Vegeta looks much better without it.

 

[Turin]

Ponytail Trunks is the best

This specifically.

 

[Skeeter49]

I think I like Ponytail Trunks most, but it's very hard for there to be a version of Trunks I don't like.
Though Super found a way.

 

[Icyflamez96]

I think I like Ponytail Trunks most, but it's very hard for there to be a version of Trunks I don't like.
Though Super found a way.

Yeah... I need those fine hair strands.

 

[Host Samurai]

Unpopular opinion, but this is my fav Future Trunks look. I'am a mark for muscle shirts.
Gotta show those gains.

 

[ArchedThunder]

It really bugs me that Funimation is completely missing things in their dub. I was just catching up on it and in the scene with the first description of God Ki they just have Vegeta say that he can't move because of some force instead of him giving the actual description that it feels like "A Ki without Ki" or "an empty Ki".

 

[Daingurse]

Unpopular opinion, but this is my fav Future Trunks look. I'am a mark for muscle shirts.
Gotta show those gains.

Nothing wrong with this choice at all! This is my 2nd favorite Trunks outfit.

 

[ElFly]

All those trunks designs are awfuk

There's a reason toriyama went back to the original hair length + normal, closed jacket

 

[SolVanderlyn]

It really bugs me that Funimation is completely missing things in their dub. I was just catching up on it and in the scene with the first description of God Ki they just have Vegeta say that he can't move because of some force instead of him giving the actual description that it feels like "A Ki without Ki" or "an empty Ki".

So it's just like the OG dub then. Going for that authentic western DBZ experience.

There's a reason toriyama went back to the original hair length + normal, closed jacket

Yeah, because that's Trunks' preferred style and the others were a result of losing his jacket or spending years in a place where he couldn't cut his hair properly

 

[RocknRola]

Damnit, it's still not Saturday! I WANT MOAR!

 

[Kagari]

All those trunks designs are awfuk

There's a reason toriyama went back to the original hair length + normal, closed jacket

Trunks is perfect in every form.

 

[Daingurse]

Future Trunks is perfect in every form.

Fixed for myself lol.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

poor future goten has no fans

 

[The Silver]

Trunks just looks so fucking 90s, it's great

 

[L Thammy]

Trunks is perfect in every form.

Checks out.

 

[sycam0re]

Checks out.

you're a good one

anyone who has even slightly disparaged trunks is on my ignore list now

poor future goten has no fans

gt goten, whatever

 

[ArchedThunder]

^^Of course GT Trunks gets you to post.


So due to Golden Week meaning staff took a week of during the production of episode 90 apparently Yamamuro stepped in to do some uncredited corrections to help make sure the episode got finished.
Animation Supervisor Yamazki said that this shot might have been Yamamuro;

I thought that was interesting.

Yamazaki also said that he hopes he's requested to work on the show again, so hopefully he becomes another regular.

 

[Ashodin]

People who hate Hit???? WHAT

 

[m_shortpants]

Not a fan of DBS Future Trunks at all. Looks too scrawny and young for how old he should be.

 

[Kagari]

Checks out.

You. I like you.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

It really bugs me that Funimation is completely missing things in their dub. I was just catching up on it and in the scene with the first description of God Ki they just have Vegeta say that he can't move because of some force instead of him giving the actual description that it feels like "A Ki without Ki" or "an empty Ki".

Thankfully the Blurays should have the Japanese VA with English subs.

 

[Work of an Enemy Stand]

Also looks good.

 

[Skeeter49]

I actually like how GT Trunks looks.
I think GT Trunks gets too much hate.

 

[Work of an Enemy Stand]

I actually like how GT Trunks looks.
I think GT Trunks gets too much hate.

Not a fan of that jacket over those shorts.

But I can almost look past that when he turns Super Saiyan because Super Saiyan Trunks always looks good.

 

[sycam0re]

Trunks always looks good.

agreedo