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Dragon Ball Super |OT8| There is no justice or evil, only survival or erasure.

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Morlas

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I thought the title was referring to
Kale? I doubt they'll introduce someone crazy powerful now.

i feel like they're hinting that Kale has a problem fighting Goku and she goes berserker form only to get blindsided by an explosive warrior
 

Sephzilla

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This is a completely random thought but I'm kind of shocked that Cell hasn't come back at all considering it seems like every other major DragonBall and DragonBall Z villain has come back at some point.
 
This is a completely random thought but I'm kind of shocked that Cell hasn't come back at all considering it seems like every other major DragonBall and DragonBall Z villain has come back at some point.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
i feel like they're hinting that Kale has a problem fighting Goku and she goes berserker form only to get blindsided by an explosive warrior
I'm guessing it's a case of lost in translation.
Don't think it meant a literal explosive warrior or an explosive as in OP warrior. I'd however like a new character introduction though, or maybe they're just referring to limit breaker Goku who goes from base to his new form again.
 

A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
This is a completely random thought but I'm kind of shocked that Cell hasn't come back at all considering it seems like every other major DragonBall and DragonBall Z villain has come back at some point.

Cell is terrible but it's surprising to me they'd bring a character like 17 back before Cell who's obviously more popular. It would clash with Freeza's return though since they'd likely both return the same way.
 

Slaythe

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Cell is terrible but it's surprising to me they'd bring a character like 17 back before Cell who's obviously more popular. It would clash with Freeza's return though since they'd likely both return the same way.

17 isn't evil and he's not dead. Kind of easy to write him back in once they remembered he existed.
 

caliph95

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Cell is terrible but it's surprising to me they'd bring a character like 17 back before Cell who's obviously more popular. It would clash with Freeza's return though since they'd likely both return the same way.
It takes way less effort to bring 17 than cell and there's little in universe to bring him back when Frieza is more useful and Cells power isn't anything special anymore

Plus he's not very popular in Japan compared to the west last I heard
 

DarkKyo

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I'd rather see some type of "sequel" to Cell than seeing him returning to be honest, since that's kind of Freiza's thing. How about some kind of offspring that's been gestating since Cell's been gone?
 

Sephzilla

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Cell feels so Nothing sandwiched between Freeza's personal history with the protags and charisma and Buu's silliness

I mean, Cell has a pretty personal history with some of the protags as well.

Cell coming back would introduce some pretty interesting power creep though since Cell should be able to access Frieza's Gold Form as well
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
I would have liked Cell instead of, say, Tien in the tournament. That would require a lot of work though. If that would have happened Universe 7 would probably be banned from participating in future (non-erasure) tournaments.
 

brinstar

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I mean, Cell has a pretty personal history with some of the protags as well.

Cell coming back would introduce some pretty interesting power creep though since Cell should be able to access Frieza's Gold Form as well

I'm sure Heroes will bring out SSB Cell or Golden Cell eventually lol

And idk, I guess I could see him coming back. He just feels like another Freeza to me. I wouldn't be surprised if they started mining more Red Ribbon stuff in Super though
 

Slaythe

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17 hype deflated at Toei, maybe Ribrianne will go back to him after Goku gets abducted by aliens

Considering they're treating 80% of the cast the same way (and that includes Frieza too, let's not act like it changed because he just got his episode) I'd hardly say that.

I just hope to god it's all set ups for those characters. Let Goku and Vegeta get all the screentime then lose and move on.

Not gonna happen nobody is gonna do shit. That's like Gohan being so underwhelming so far, your logical mind wants to believe it's a setup to have him unleashed later on, but with those writers you NEVER KNOW.
 

Ashodin

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There's just no hints in this tournament.

All we've got to go on is matchups we'd like to see, but have no real basis for it to happen.
 
Cell feels so Nothing sandwiched between Freeza's personal history with the protags and charisma and Buu's silliness

That's my take on it and the fact he's a pain to draw for the animators.

There's really not much you can do with him when both Vegeta and Freeza are around since he was basically a combined version of them personality wise.
 

TreIII

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And idk, I guess I could see him coming back. He just feels like another Freeza to me. I wouldn't be surprised if they started mining more Red Ribbon stuff in Super though

Would be nice, but I wouldn't expect it. It looks like the games are the ones that are doing the most to explore the other settings/plot points in the series. What with Online/Heroes/Xenoverse doing more with the Demon World, and now FighterZ revisiting the Red Ribbon stuff...
 

Kagari

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Considering they're treating 80% of the cast the same way (and that includes Frieza too, let's not act like it changed because he just got his episode) I'd hardly say that.

I just hope to god it's all set ups for those characters. Let Goku and Vegeta get all the screentime then lose and move on.

Not gonna happen nobody is gonna do shit. That's like Gohan being so underwhelming so far, your logical mind wants to believe it's a setup to have him unleashed later on, but with those writers you NEVER KNOW.
Guess we'll see but that person a page back who said they've really squandered the U7 cast so far isn't wrong. Freeza didn't really do anything until 108...17 and 18 started off strong but they've done nothing since and Piccolo has barely shown up. Krillin was wasted after two episodes, Tenshinhan went out like a punk, etc. It's really messy.

If this arc is lasting well into next year, which seems likely, we can only hope for some decent payoff.
 
But will DB Wikia stop calling it Super Saiyan Green now? Hm..
I just checked, they don't call it that.
Guess we'll see but that person a page back who said they've really squandered the U7 cast so far isn't wrong. Freeza didn't really do anything until 108...17 and 18 started off strong but they've done nothing since and Piccolo has barely shown up. Krillin was wasted after two episodes, Tenshinhan went out like a punk, etc. It's really messy.

If this arc is lasting well into next year, which seems likely, we can only hope for some decent payoff.

Since we're supposed to be in the climax I can't see the tournament going into next year, I think it ending on 120 or 121 at the end of the year would work and would give them plenty of time to wrap things up and we'd hopefully get plenty of stuff with Gohan, Piccolo, Freeza, 17 and 18 in November and December.
I still want to know if the tournament is the endgame of the arc or not though.
 

Kagari

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I just checked, they don't call it that.


Since we're supposed to be in the climax I can't see the tournament going into next year, I think it ending on 120 or 121 at the end of the year would work and would give them plenty of time to wrap things up and we'd hopefully get plenty of stuff with Gohan, Piccolo, Freeza, 17 and 18 in November and December.
I still want to know if the tournament is the endgame of the arc or not though.
I really can't see it ending at 120.
 

HeroR

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Guess we'll see but that person a page back who said they've really squandered the U7 cast so far isn't wrong. Freeza didn't really do anything until 108...17 and 18 started off strong but they've done nothing since and Piccolo has barely shown up. Krillin was wasted after two episodes, Tenshinhan went out like a punk, etc. It's really messy.

If this arc is lasting well into next year, which seems likely, we can only hope for some decent payoff.

Krillin wasn’t wasted just because he got knocked out early and they were obviously building up Frieza which is why he made big moves until recently.

The only character squandered is Tien.
 

Kagari

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Krillin wasn’t wasted just because he got knocked out early and they were obviously building up Frieza which is why he made big moves until recently.

The only character squandered is Tien.
Taiyoken x100 was certainly wasted.
 

Tsunamo

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After the spoilers i'm really really curious how long this arc has left. Is Jiren out of the picture then? Is he just resting like Goku? And if he's not I feel like we might get this wrapped up in December. Wouldn't suprise me though if it ends with Universe 6 vs 7 like I thought might happen
 
It takes way less effort to bring 17 than cell and there's little in universe to bring him back when Frieza is more useful and Cells power isn't anything special anymore

Plus he's not very popular in Japan compared to the west last I heard

Yeah this.

Piccolo is even stronger than him now.
 
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