Drake - Nothing Was the Same |OT| - Leader of the New School

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Grover Cleveland said:
lol but he's not eatin now.

Dude can't even break 100k in three weeks.

GOOD Music aint doing shit right now. Pusha can't get a release date, Ye's got Cyhi changing North's diapers, and no one else (outside of John Legend) on the label's making moves.
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yeah, you're right. im just still letdown that cruel winter or whatever - with those rumors of q-tip, mos & these dudes having their verses & contributions finally seeing daylight - never made it out, while sean still gets features.

you gotta figure these dudes can't bitch though; tip makes his $ producing (i think DJing too) and the like, and i love Common but he owes so much of his return to ye's efforts on Be, even if he is prolly making way more on Hell on Wheels

Pusha though...keeps seeming like it's on deck, then getting pushed back like it's the rap game Last Guardian

Nibel said:
GAF finally embraces Drake

Christopher lost
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i don't think shit changed, honestly...OP & some dudes cant wait to call shit a classic, but it's another great album from a dude who has yet to fuck one up. from his mixtape onward, we got kitten whisperer jokes for days but the highs have been good & the lows largely inconsistent. i bet if you went back tot he Take Care thread you'd see a similar reaction...people finally giving drake a chance past oversaturated radio singles digging it, the rest of us enjoying another great effort, and the same dudes that had they mind made up since Best I Ever Had stay sleepin'

i'm not saying anything negative about this album at all, mind you; just that his fans stay happy, old-school heads like myself will stay talkin that shit but will buy it too and claim they got it for they sister

Cheddahz said:
Cash Money Records 4eva!
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nah. wayne stays putting out weed plate mixtapes and will continue embarrassing himself with cater XIII or whatever till he stops getting paid or finds a new hobby, fuck knows what nicki's doin while birdman invests in hand lotion and continues eating, but...drake's actually pretty smart and far as i know, is in no way married to that mess (neither is nick tho). could be wrong, but i think they're fading and he'll be able to just keep it moving well past their era at this rate, honestly
even if i'm wrong, it's win/win cause he can stay or fly solo whenever. look at the various guest features he had on this album alone...he doesn't need anything they can offer right now
 
Alright, I'll type out a review.

As somebody who isn't the biggest fan of Drake this album definitely impressed me. I've only listened to Take Care 2-3 times or so, didn't really hit me (I might try it again at some point) I disliked Thank Me Later a good amount.

Back to this album. Tuscan Leather jumps the album off fucking perfectly. The production on this album is pretty much sublime. Throughout you have these hazy beats with heavy drums and pianos etc. not to mention some great samples sprinkled throughout. Lyrically you get what you expect from Drake. I mean he goes over the same topics a bit too much, but it really fits the production for the most part. Drake doesn't "go in" ever really, he has some cool lines here and there, but again, it's Drake crying about ex's/strippers whatever. It works though, I actually like this introspective take on rap. He does a fair amount of crooning/singing, so if you aren't trying to listen to that, a good amount of songs break down to that. Another point, it feels good to not have a Drake album bogged down by features, they all feel appropriate here.

Conclusion: Drake delivers an album that is consistent and has production that is really doing it for me. He covers similar ground, but he does it better than most do. It's fun to hate on Drake, but his music is speaking for itself.

Best tracks: Tuscan Leather, Furthest Thing, Too Much, Pound Cake.
Worst tracks: Worst Behavior, 305 To My City.

Probably an 8/10.
 
The transition between The Language and 305 is really smooth; I keep thinking it's a song with two parts. 305 to my City is getting better with more listens too!
 
I've had a full play through this morning (stuck in traffic because of some accident) and from what I've heard, I really like it. I'll have to listen to it a few more times before I post more.
 
Maybe it's just because I'm a bit of a Hudson Mohawke stan, but "Connect" has been stuck in my head all day, definitely my favorite so far. Tuscan Leather is a fantastic opener and Furtherst Thing/Own It really rock that midtempo rap/r&b line to a T.
 
Not too into this album, has too much rapping for my taste. I prefer Drake when he sticks strictly to R&B.
 
So is the mastering or something is really bad on the beginning of Started From The Bottom(before the beat drops), or is it just me?
 
Take Care had such a mature quality to it that I hope this allbum doesn't lose. Drake has really come far as an artist so it will be cool to see if he will evolve again.
 
Dorygrant said:
Take Care had such a mature quality to it that I hope this allbum doesn't lose. Drake has really come far as an artist so it will be cool to see if he will evolve again.
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I feel this one is much of a signature album in the sense that it's a really cohesive culmination of his skill set. Nothing against the last two(which I really enjoyed), but this one feels like it's something that is very individual to Drake. Almost each song really has his identity all over it.

neptunes said:
From Time is REALLY growing on me.

It's so good.
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I loved this song the first time I'd heard it. So good to have a damn album where each song actually says something. None of this word soup bullshit.
 
You guys are killing me but since I've already bought this shit on iTunes I'm gonna stay pure until next week.
 
Heard in this thread that Take Care is a modern hip hop classic.

Listened to it, during beers... so... heightened experience.

And... meh..

All I have to say in response to "Modern Hip Hop Classic"...
THIS is the only answer. Nothing comes close to "classic" for me in the last 5 years.
Watch the Throne and Yeezus are VERY close, and may eventually make it in.
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Album was pretty weak until I guess the last 3 or 4 songs.

Might grow on me.

Pound Cake is great. Was expecting Jay's verse to be awful, was pleasantly surprised. Beat is great. Easily the best song on the album.
 
stn said:
Not too into this album, has too much rapping for my taste. I prefer Drake when he sticks strictly to R&B.
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Yeah I totally agree. After letting the hype die down a little, this is still a very solid album but I still think Take Care was better by a bit.

NWTS is just a little too chill and rappy for my tastes. The best songs are still "Started from the bottom" and "Hold on we're going home" to me, but damn Pound Cake is some glorious stuff.
 
No offense Sound Boy, but I can think of 10+ better albums/tapes than Fear of God in the past few years.. Easily.

Drake has two of them, and I don't call these "classics".
 
SOUND BOY said:
Name the others, you coconut.
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Oh boy. I'll name some dating back to 2011, not all of them.

Drake- Take Care, Nothing Was the Same.
Schoolboy Q- Setbacks, Habits and Contradictions.
Kendrick lamar- Section.80, GKMC
Ab-Soul- Control System
Killer Mike- RAP Music
El-P- Cancer 4 Cure
Cunninlynguists- Oneirolgy
Deniro Farrar- The Patriarch
Kanye West- Yeezus, Cruel Summer.
Alchemist- Russian Roulette
Danny Brown- XXX.

Honestly, that's naming far less than I should. Of course if you love that tape I have no problem, it's not bad by any means, just merely okay. The past few years have been great for hip-hop, so that tape just fell off for me.

I should listen to Take Care again.
 
prod credits


1. Tuscan Leather (Prod. 40) - 6:06
2. Furthest Thing (Prod. Hagler & 40) - 4:27
3. Started From The Bottom (Prod. Mike Zombie & 40) - 2:53
4. Wu-Tang Forever (Prod. 40) - 3:37
5. Own It (Prod. Detail & 40) - 4:11
6. Worst Behavior (Prod. DJ Dahi, Detail & 40) - 4:30
7. From Time (feat. Jhené Aiko) (Prod. Chilly Gonzales & 40) - 5:22
8. Hold On, We're Going Home (feat. Majid Jordan) (Prod. Nineteen85, Majid Jordan & 40) - 3:51
9. Connect (Prod. by Hudson Mohawke & 40) - 4:56
10. The Language (Prod. Boi-1da, Vinylz & Allen Ritter) - 3:44
11. 305 To My City (feat. Detail) (Prod. by Twinsmatic, Detail & 40) - 4:15
12. Too Much (feat. Sampha) (Prod. Nineteen85 & Sampha) - 4:21
13. Pound Cake (feat. Jay-Z) / Paris Morton Music II (Prod. Boi-1da, Jordan Evans, Matthew Burnett, Detail & 40) - 7:13
14. Come Thru (Prod. 40) - 3:56
15. All Me (feat. 2 Chainz & Big Sean) (Prod. Key Wane & 40) - 4:31
 
I remember reading somewhere that drake tells 40 to not produce for just anyone that asks, basically keeping him as a personal producer so people wouldn't steal his sound
 
enzo_gt said:
40 one of the most underrated producers in the game right now. He's proven incredibly versatile.
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Ken Masters said:
Having one producer work on essentially every track helps the cohesiveness of an album, old school hip hop had that.

Something sorely lacking in hip hop today
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100% agree. He has some dub/dark vibes to some tracks, and sample hip-hop style on others. He does suit Drake's style perfectly.
 
I thought 40 took more of an audio engineering role than just producing? I know every beat that goes to Drake has him do some shit on em.

Ken Masters said:
I remember reading somewhere that drake tells 40 to not produce for just anyone that asks, basically keeping him as a personal producer so people wouldn't steal his sound
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You dont really need to be a genius to spam low pass filters. I think 40 had a great sound with So Far Gone but dude really has no range.

Take Care and the songs leading up to that album was prime example of 40 making the same beats over and over again.
 
Ken Masters said:
I remember reading somewhere that drake tells 40 to not produce for just anyone that asks, basically keeping him as a personal producer so people wouldn't steal his sound
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Here's what 40 has to say about this

"At this point in time the only rappers I have any interest in working with outside of Drake are [Lil] Wayne and [Jay-Z]," 40 told the publication, saying that it was "from Drake's mouth." Besides working with Jay on "Light Up," the producer also contributed to Lil Wayne's No Ceilings mixtape last year. 40 continued, "If [Drake] doesn't' want me to give it away I won't...My ambitions are to stay focused with Drake. When it comes time to develop another artist I'll make that move...I feel blessed. I'm a kid from Toronto. I've been driving my mom's station wagon for the last eight years for real."
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I think being tied exclusively to Drake is the best thing that has happened to him; look at all those upcoming producers from the past and where they are now
 
effingvic said:
I thought 40 took more of an audio engineering role than just producing? I know every beat that goes to Drake has him do some shit on em.



You dont really need to be a genius to spam low pass filters. I think 40 had a great sound with So Far Gone but dude really has no range.

Take Care and the songs leading up to that album was prime example of 40 making the same beats over and over again.
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The beats don't sound all the same and if you really want to insult 40 by saying how easy it is to make those beats then why hasn't anyone matched his quality when jacking his style?
 
Dope album, Still getting a feel for what track I like the best. Drake flew out a friend of mine to LA do some production work on this album, I gotta get with him and see which track(s) he did work on!
 
man, 40 is fucking hip hop producer of the year for this album.

Tuscan leather and Paris Morton Music 2 beats are amazing.

Ofcourse any song with Jhene Aiko is okay in my books too.
 
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