No, it's more like since they're having server trouble now. Releasing a free version that 1-2 million people would try out, could only make things worse.
Driveclub PS Plus Edition Delayed by Server Issues
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Ah okay.
Shame they free version can't have its online disabled temporarily considering it was supposed to be out ages ago though.
Yeah, I hear you. Not even like "a month" or "early next week". Like you said, knowing they're working on it is fine, but we don't know the extent of the progress they're making. Are they halfway done? 90% ready for full online?
I'm almost wondering if they're contemplating regionalised servers so that one main one isn't the one with the load placed on it (if that's how their infrastructure works... I'm not too sure). AsiaPac, Europe/Africa and Americas should cover it (if I'm forgetting a region, I apologise).
Would you be happy to get the PS+ edition now and experience subpar online features that are not yet fixed ? Evolution wants the Ps+ edition to be a showcase of their game, that's why it's delayed so you can taste a fully functional experience.
autoduelist
Member
If the only update is 'we're working on it and we'll let you know when we fix it', and that's already been said, I don't see the point in constant updates. Since we know they're working on it, and since we know they'll let us know when they fix it, I don't really see what updates do for us.
They certainly aren't going to commit to a future date (ie, "it'll be fixed by Tuesday") so all they can say is 'it'll be fixed when it's fixed'. There's nothing to update us about till then.
I guess? I don't know. If I bought something and find out it's broken and have to return it for a replacement, I don't expect compensation. It sucks, I move on. Clearly not intentional.
Oh, I agree it's a massive screwup. I just don't think it's worth getting upset about. I'm playing Shadow of Mordor right now... and I didn't pick that up for at least a month after release. It's not like I lost those weeks between release and purchase, I just did other things and played other games. Likewise, I'll play Driveclub when it gets here. I don't begrudge Evolution for messing up with the servers, I know they'll fix it and when they do I'll play the game.
I guess I'm pretty mellow about stuff like this, as long as I know they're trying to make good, which they are.
AbandonedTrolley
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Not suspicious at all, but hey keep thinking that.
The online is struggling, so currently they are fixing things for the people that have purchased it, I would imagine it's easy to fix while lets say 1 million people are trying to connect rather than all the PS+ versions hitting it at the same time. There is nothing suspicious about it at all, it's just limiting the problems till they are fixed.
Your loss, it's a great game even in its current state.
SRTtoZ
Member
Yep! As far as I go, this was a game that I was excited about, but wasnt sure if I wanted to buy because I am more of a simulation racer fan, GT, Forza, etc but Driveclub looked good and the PS+ demo (fullgamewhatever) gave me a chance to try out the full game and pay $50 for it digitally if I enjoyed it. Now I have no idea if I even want to try it because of how pissed off I am on how they handled the entire thing. Seriously, you can't market a game as this special giveaway with PS+ and then neglect all of those users when the game releases. GIVE ME SOMETHING! (information wise), please.
Maybe I shouldn't post when I'm drunk. Whatever.
Droopaloop
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I hope not. You would think Sony spent a decent amount of marketing money on this game as a system launch game. The system didn't launch with it. Maybe they just tossed it on the back burner because I've seen next to no promotion of DriveClub in terms of TV commercials.
Either way, I think it was a unique situation.
Funny that someone so prolific in the Horizon 2 thread would pop in here to post that link.
Out of interest, do you also need PS+ to access the features that aren't reliable in the retail Driveclub, or are they an exemption from the PS+ required for online play thing? (I don't recall if leaderboards were included in that)
I'm wondering if there's another aspect to "I'm not getting what I bought PS+ to receive" that's being lost a bit in all the discussion about the PS+ version of the game.
Scofield94941
Member
I look forward to playing this after I get The Last Guardian for PS4
Multiplayer is the only thing held back by the PS+ subscription.
All the other online social aspects are open to non PS+ subscribers.
Lol! Just release it Evo! Do it.
soundscream
Member
This really needs to stop. If someone who has 17 post in the FH2 is accused of having a ulterior motive, does that mean my 121 post in that thread mean I am actively committing DDoS attacks on the drive club servers?
Hahahaha. Sony wants you guys to get impatient and buy their broken product. No chance they put a warning or remove it.
cool_dude has an history of shit posting in DriveClub threads, though.
Offering 'help' to get a refund in a thread dedicated to the free version of a game has something really amusing, don't you think?
CircleOfFire
Member
That's pretty much it, whatever you design will provide a certain level of performance depending on the underlying hardware and software you use to build. Having seen what it's like when a database goes south on performance it becomes a nightmare sometimes chasing bottleneck after bottleneck, where you can only identify subsequent bottlenecks by pushing to your production servers.
soundscream
Member
If he has a history of trolling call him out for that, not where he post. I'm currently tied for the most post in the FH2 OT but I shouldn't be afraid of posting in any thread because of that.
Well that's true. But Amazon are usually pretty good about pulling broken shit down.
fallen_dawn
Member
I've heard people get refunds just by chatting to Sony customer support. I don't know what benefit a Facebook page has to be honest...
toddhunter
Member
I'm not sure about a disclaimer. But taking down the big Driveclub advertising banner in the PS+ free games section? Might be a reasonable move.
That I agree with you. I was just trying to offer Shaneus some mitigating circumstances. #AceAttorneyStyle
The FAILCLUB logo, probably helps... /s
Yeah, that was pretty much it. Wasn't so much the posting in the H2 thread, just the shitposting in every single DC thread is what I was calling him out on. #Sustained
Exactly. I'm inclined to think that perhaps there really isn't much more code optimisation they can do and now it's more about how to share/even out the load (perhaps move one section of the online component to another array of servers? Like either MP or challenge scores or something like that). I'm sure there are some components of online that don't have to be as snappy as the ghost/challenge requests.
Still not out yet? What a joke of a company. GG Sony.
There is a disclaimer :/
And I quote......
"ONLINE PLAY FEATURESOF THIS GAME ARE CURRENTLY AFFECTED BY SERVER ISSUES, SOME FEATURES MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE OR UNAVAILABLE AT CERTAIN TIMES, We are working to solve these issues, check out the DRIVECLUB facebook page for the latest information on progress"
Nice try though.
Honest Sony is quite honest.
Just by it used.
Dirtyshubb
Member
God, coming into this thread is really depressing and not for the fact that the PS+ edition isnt up yet (Although that does make me rather sad) but because of all the hyperbole from some people.
What a joke of a company Seriously? Yeah its bad for fans who wanted to try the PS+ version out but if this 1 thing is enough to confirm a company is a joke then maybe your grading of companies needs to be tweaked a bit.
What a joke of a company Seriously? Yeah its bad for fans who wanted to try the PS+ version out but if this 1 thing is enough to confirm a company is a joke then maybe your grading of companies needs to be tweaked a bit.
dano1
A Sheep
No thanks. Most fun I've had in a racing game in a long time and half the game doesn't even work correct.
People act like this is the first game that's had problems at launch. Isn't the first wont be the last!
Heh, this is exactly how I feel. I see the thread on the first page and think "Oh hey, maybe there's news?" But no. It's just more folks hoping Evolution goes under and everyone working there goes unemployed. Christ.
flyinpiranha
Member
Yes, they have been nothing but crystal clear and forthcoming with Driveclub since the official reveal. Quite honest.
Ha, I assume you're in the "it's broke, but just buy it!" club? I will echo what most say, Sim City got shit, BF4 got shit, Diablo 3 got shit ... but holy fuck do people flock to defend this broken mess.
You're literally saying that the broken game and PS+ edition delay isn't worse than the complaining ...
This company has worked on this one product for years. And it's not working. "oh but parts of it work" ... only in gaming can somebody get away with shipping a partly functional product and have people come to its defense. What a sad state we're in, even broken products are getting a free pass and having people defend them. "hey guyz, at least they tried, right?".
I don't want anybody to lose their job, I don't want anybody's "heads to roll". I would just like gamers not to be so willing to put up with this shit. The reason "broken launches" are so normal is because we throw money at them even when it is broken. Shit, in this thread people re saying "just buy it if you want to play it!". What kind of back asswards logic is that? I can't play the PS+ edition because it's broken so just buy the full broken retail version to try "parts" of it? And the people complaining are the ones that are crazy?
Absolutely astonished that they're still not on top of this.
Whatever happens to Evolution, you have to think that the combination of mediocre reviews, a busted launch, and the prospect of GT7 at some stage means that the Driveclub IP is dead in the water. And if that's the case, Evo will be lucky to survive. Put them on Motorstorm again, Sony, please. It was a unique series and they were good at Motorstorm
Whatever happens to Evolution, you have to think that the combination of mediocre reviews, a busted launch, and the prospect of GT7 at some stage means that the Driveclub IP is dead in the water. And if that's the case, Evo will be lucky to survive. Put them on Motorstorm again, Sony, please. It was a unique series and they were good at Motorstorm
Shame its still not available, it was on my list to likely purchase at the start of the month. Unfortunately for Evolution, as we're approaching the end of the month with no news I've gone and spent all my coin on Evil Within and Alien Isolation instead and next month is already allocated to GTAV and FarCry4 perhaps.
Driveclub isn't likely to get any money out of me now until next year sometime, all thanks to this completely buggered up launch.
Driveclub isn't likely to get any money out of me now until next year sometime, all thanks to this completely buggered up launch.
Pretty much this.
"they tried" should not be good enough when 60 dollar products are on the line.
Sony shouldn't really be selling this without some kind of warning or selling it at all.
ricen-beans
Member
U can play it already tho. It's out now, unlike the last guardian. Unless you think you'll get plus version of the last guardian too?
Plus version will come. Eventually. And it'll still be free.
aaronwt
Member
So instead they give the paying customers a subpar experience? That makes no sense. Although I haven't played DC in a few days so maybe things are better now. I went back to playing Forza Horizon 2 since I wasn't having issues with it like I was with DC. I'll need to try DC some more this week to see if it's any better now.
Dirtyshubb
Member
Im sorry but did I say anywhere that people should just buy the full version of Driveclub and deal with the current online problems? No I didnt, what I said was that the delay of the PS+ version was disappointing but not worthy of the pure hatred some people in this thread are coming out with. And let me remind you, this thread is about the PS+ version, not the full games current problems so please refrain from assuming thats what Im talking about.
If people bought the full game and arent happy with the state of it then they should contact Sony and get a refund, I would do the same if I was in their shoes.
What people who are saying the company (Sony who isnt developing the game but just publishing it) are a joke because of this one issue need to do is deal with it because this isnt the same situation as those who bought the full game for £50. Either wait for it to drop and try it out or move on, its as simple as that.
Lys Skygge
Member
I'm pretty disappointed that the PS+ version still isn't out. I've pretty much given up hope that we'll see it this month. No matter, I will still be eagerly awaiting its arrival with open arms 
I don't understand how people can keep defending DC launch with the amount of problems, and it's been 2 weeks and no solution has been found.
I have personally played DC a lot, level 50, 225/225 stars on career mode and in a level 26 club. And during these 2 weeks I have played, not ONCE has the game worked like it should have. Challenge mode have not worked since day 1, not once. Online (at least in some form) in total has worked for maybe a week. Properly - not a single time. 2 races have been the maximum I have managed to do online after that is disconnect and after maybe 5-6 tries I sometimes manage to connect for 1 more race - pretty annoying wouldn't you say?
In race challenges (when they work) are constantly bugged, with speed challenges often having something like 3000 mph score to beat. Collision detection is also problematic, with cars sometimes spinning out in front of you with no contact whatsoever. Club cars are still bugged, they are not accessible if you lose connection. And, to finish it off - leaderboards. Some times they update your time, most of the time not. There are also some leaderboards bugged with ridiculous times.
So, pretty much a total mess. And, yet what is there and WHEN it works is quite good. I have enjoyed it having played it as much as I have, you can read my comments in the OT. Still, in it's current state I can't recommend the game to anyone.
There is no excuse in releasing the game a year late, with still huge amount of content (like weather) missing at launch and on top of that having the most important part of your game (online and clubs) not even working half the time 2 weeks after launch!
The PS+ version being promised (a year ago already) and still being delayed because of these continued problems is also ridiculous. Who knows how long this might go on...
I have personally played DC a lot, level 50, 225/225 stars on career mode and in a level 26 club. And during these 2 weeks I have played, not ONCE has the game worked like it should have. Challenge mode have not worked since day 1, not once. Online (at least in some form) in total has worked for maybe a week. Properly - not a single time. 2 races have been the maximum I have managed to do online after that is disconnect and after maybe 5-6 tries I sometimes manage to connect for 1 more race - pretty annoying wouldn't you say?
In race challenges (when they work) are constantly bugged, with speed challenges often having something like 3000 mph score to beat. Collision detection is also problematic, with cars sometimes spinning out in front of you with no contact whatsoever. Club cars are still bugged, they are not accessible if you lose connection. And, to finish it off - leaderboards. Some times they update your time, most of the time not. There are also some leaderboards bugged with ridiculous times.
So, pretty much a total mess. And, yet what is there and WHEN it works is quite good. I have enjoyed it having played it as much as I have, you can read my comments in the OT. Still, in it's current state I can't recommend the game to anyone.
There is no excuse in releasing the game a year late, with still huge amount of content (like weather) missing at launch and on top of that having the most important part of your game (online and clubs) not even working half the time 2 weeks after launch!
The PS+ version being promised (a year ago already) and still being delayed because of these continued problems is also ridiculous. Who knows how long this might go on...
There is a big difference between comparing the PS+ edition delay to BF4, D3, Sim City, etc.
Those other games were paid products. And you could only play them online. Granted, this situation is murky, because you are going to have people claim that they bought PS+ only because they would get DC for free.
But to those people I say...PS+ is $50, why wouldn't you just buy DC itself at that point? If that's the sole reason you signed up for the service.
However, I don't think you can directly compare this launch and the amount of shit it's getting, to the launch and amount of shit Sim City, BF4, and D3 received. I'm not defending the DC launch though. Shit needs to be rectified. I'm just saying you can't compare it to those other games.
Those other games were paid products. And you could only play them online. Granted, this situation is murky, because you are going to have people claim that they bought PS+ only because they would get DC for free.
But to those people I say...PS+ is $50, why wouldn't you just buy DC itself at that point? If that's the sole reason you signed up for the service.
However, I don't think you can directly compare this launch and the amount of shit it's getting, to the launch and amount of shit Sim City, BF4, and D3 received. I'm not defending the DC launch though. Shit needs to be rectified. I'm just saying you can't compare it to those other games.
megabytecr
Member
Sad, I thought a week would do.
I got PS+ to play TLOUR MP, to get some games and obviously for DC. I am not in the going to demand something here from Sony, but it sucks.
I got PS+ to play TLOUR MP, to get some games and obviously for DC. I am not in the going to demand something here from Sony, but it sucks.
hellmonkey
Member
I really don't understand why D3 got as much shit as it did. It was playable after 2 days. SimCity was a fustercluck and was unplayable for a long ass time, which is stupid because SC is a fkn single player game. At least the SP part of Driveclub has been playable since day 1. I was playing DC all weekend and everything was working fine for me except for challenges. I stayed connected and was constantly getting random face offs in my races. Not sure about leader boards since I don't pay attention to those.
they failed to honor their commitment. whether unintentionally or deliberately, they misled consumers. simple enough for ya?
Who, Sony or EVO?