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Dumbledore Confirmed For Fantastic Beasts 2; Casting Underway

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I think the answer is simple. Is should be Jared Harris, IRL son of the true Dumbledore.

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Wouldn't Dumbledor be a teenager or something during these films?
 

DrForester

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Voldemort is gonna be in FB 3-5, isn't he? I mean, somehow they'll make it work.


I doubt it. Voldemort hasn't even been born in Fantastic Beasts 1. Assuming the last movie will have the Dumbledore/Grindlewald fight, that puts the films up to 1945. Voldemort would be only be 18 years old and just getting out of Hogwarts.
 

Sheroking

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I doubt it. Voldemort hasn't even been born in Fantastic Beasts 1. Assuming the last movie will have the Dumbledore/Grindlewald fight, that puts the films up to 1945. Voldemort would be only be 18 years old and just getting out of Hogwarts.

Voldemort was born in the same year as Fantastic Beasts.

Dumbledore is the Transfiguration teacher at Hogwarts for all 7 of Tom Riddle's years and only after Riddle graduates does the Dumbledore/Grindelwald duel happen. Riddle by that point had founded the Death Eaters in secret and killed his parents, as well as started work on his horcruxes.

Plenty of opportunity for an appearance of some kind.
 

DrForester

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Voldemort was born in the same year as Fantastic Beasts.

Dumbledore is the Transfiguration teacher at Hogwarts for all 7 of Tom Riddle's years and only after Riddle graduates does the Dumbledore/Grindelwald duel happen. Riddle by that point had founded the Death Eaters in secret and killed his parents, as well as started work on his horcruxes.

Plenty of opportunity for an appearance of some kind.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but doesn't it take place in 1925? Voldemort wasn't born until the very end of 1926 (New Year's Eve). 1945 would have him in his last two terms at Hogwarts, and after that he went to work at Borgin and Burk for at least 10 years.
 

Sheroking

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I haven't seen the movie yet, but doesn't it take place in 1925? Voldemort wasn't born until the very end of 1926 (New Year's Eve). 1945 would have him in his last two terms at Hogwarts, and after that he went to work at Borgin and Burk for at least 10 years.

The Potter wiki says Fantastic Beasts is 1926.

Riddle killed his father and his grandparents and founded the Death Eaters while still a student at Hogwarts. He planned his first Horcrux in his 7th year after learning about the practicality of it from Horace Slughorn.

Riddle would have graduated from Hogwarts in June of 1944 and the Dumbledore/Grindelwald duel took place in 1945. So if they do get to the duel, Riddle would have been an adult at that point and Dumbledore would have dealt with him directly for almost a decade prior.
 

Kalentan

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Now I haven't seen Fantastic Beasts 1 and haven't read this entire thread but is it true that they're going back to Europe for the sequel? Seems like a shame considering all of the lore they added for the wizards in America to be just dropped after 1 movie.
 

Ushojax

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As far as I know this scene was set in the early 30s, a few years after the first Fantastic Beasts movie:

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So I assume they will cast someone in their late 40s/early 50s.
 

DrForester

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The Potter wiki says Fantastic Beasts is 1926.

Riddle killed his father and his grandparents and founded the Death Eaters while still a student at Hogwarts. He planned his first Horcrux in his 7th year after learning about the practicality of it from Horace Slughorn.

Riddle would have graduated from Hogwarts in June of 1944 and the Dumbledore/Grindelwald duel took place in 1945. So if they do get to the duel, Riddle would have been an adult at that point and Dumbledore would have dealt with him directly for almost a decade prior.

Even if it's 1926, Voldemort still wouldn't be born yet unless the film takes place at the very end of the year. Would have graduated June 45. He would have turned 18 during the middle of his sixth year.

I guess they could show him kill his parents. Or go get Ravenclaws's crown. But even if these films go to 1945, he's still going to just be a student or a store clerk. Still, he kept his head down for that decade so after getting out of Hogwarts.
 

Kalentan

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5 movies? What the absolute hell? Over a thin ass book nonetheless right? The potterverse just shits gold doesn't it?

Pretty sure it's only based on the idea of the book at this point and even then, it seems loose as it's now seemingly becoming more Harry Potter connected rather than the seemingly original idea of it taking place before Harry Potter but being mostly stand alone.
 
5 movies? What the absolute hell? Over a thin ass book nonetheless right? The potterverse just shits gold doesn't it?

It's not really based on the book. Rowling decided to use newt scamander and extrapolate more on the Potter universe back story through his eyes. Wizard world goes beyond just Harry and Voldemort.

I don't see what's so bad about this when we can get so many star wars films and spinoffs now.
 

DrForester

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5 movies? What the absolute hell? Over a thin ass book nonetheless right? The potterverse just shits gold doesn't it?

The book this movie is based on was just a for charity book Rowling wrote and it was just supposed to be a replica of the textbook. It's just a monster guide. There was no plot or narrative to it.

Will we get our gay substory?

I hope not, just because it would retcon the books. Dumbledore and Grindlewald didn't meet again until their duel.
 

Kalentan

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So while I know there is the book but considering this is so wildly expanded on and different. Would the events of the Fantastic Beasts movie be canon to both the movies AND the novels or just the former?
 

Larkoz

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Can we stop saying "wow five movies over that thin book?"

In the movie Newt has just completed his global excursion. It's not even based on his discoveries, these have already happened.
 

Makoto-Yuki

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assuming the second movie is set also in the 1920s that'd put dumbledore at 40-50 years old. i believe he was born in 1881. dumbledore was about 109-117 during the harry potter books.

i guess it could be anyone then since richard harris played him when he was roughly 109-112 and michael gambon 112-117. his time hanging around with grindelwald he was a different person.

can't wait to see him. dumbledore is the best. i hope the battle vs grindelwald is epic. we saw a little of what he is capable in OOTP when he dueled Voldemort. we need a really good duel. even the final one with harry vs voldemort wasn't that great.
 

DrForester

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assuming the second movie is set also in the 1920s that'd put dumbledore at 40-50 years old. i believe he was born in 1881. dumbledore was about 109-117 during the harry potter books.

i guess it could be anyone then since richard harris played him when he was roughly 109-112 and michael gambon 112-117. his time hanging around with grindelwald he was a different person.

can't wait to see him. dumbledore is the best. i hope the battle vs grindelwald is epic. we saw a little of what he is capable in OOTP when he dueled Voldemort. we need a really good duel. even the final one with harry vs voldemort wasn't that great.
Well, the Harry and Voldemort duel isn't supposed to be great. One of her reasons I disliked how they did the climax in the final movie. Harry would get curb stomped. He's nowhere near a match for Voldemort. He won via wand law loopholes and cleverness.
 
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