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[dem]

I love that I've wasted my whole morning debating Howard Stern with you. =\

Unemployment here I come!

 

[Baconäger]

You didn't say that every show in the talk genre is Stern influenced, you said it was a ripoff.

So you're saying that anyone that speaks freely on the radio is ripping off Howard Stern? :lol

Thats exactly what im saying

Things tend to get confusing when you keep changing your story.

And I think anyone that listens to both shows a lot can tell they're different. Do they both have dirty humor? Yes. Does every FPS have shooting? Yes. That hardly makes either a direct ripoff.

 

[dem]

I was waiting for you to pull that out already.
When I said that i just wanted it to end =P

 

[Baconäger]

This is where you fail. This is where I realize it's impossible to talk to you like a normal human being would.


The genre that all these guys are in is DRIVE TIME FM RADIO. Do we have that clear? Not "talk radio". That genre has been around long before Larry King was passing around bad checks.


Not only did Stern slowly come into the outrageous foul mouth persona, he had to FIGHT every inch of the way to get it 'on the air'. DJ's were (and still are) horribly underpaid and with no job security (as O&A found out). 99% of them followed the rules to a tee. Because they had no choice. It took Stern a decade of working just to get his type of radio on the air. Only then, when it was a commercial success, were other stations looking for this type of talent. That is why these other FM guys OWE Stern thier careers. He did all the leg work, the trend setting and THEN went out and got the ratings.


That's what is crazy about this discussion. Stern is the Johnny Carson of radio .. and you are here defending Jimmy Kimmel (O&A) as some kind of original, independent talent.

Christ, I've said many times STERN HAD HEAVY INFLUENCE. I'm not saying they're this some original indendent talent, but to say they're direct Stern ripoffs is incorrect. You and dem seem to think it's either one way or another, when it isn't that simple.

In my opinion, O&A do a show that was influence by Stern, but is still different enough to stand on its own legs, and is not a direct ripoff (BUT IS INFLUENCED.)

 

[Baconäger]

I was waiting for you to pull that out already.
When I said that i just wanted it to end =P

Then don't give me shit for calling you out on erroneous statements? It wouldn't have drug on if you didn't make absurd claims.

 

[dem]

Question Bacon

Heres the scenerio (dates are fictional =P. Americans funniest might not have been the original show.. what do i know)

Americas Funniest home videos is on the air in 1985. It has great success. The world has never seen a show like this before! Clips! Bob Saget making funny remarks! Funny voices during the videos! OH MY! The innovation!!

Its 2005. Americas funniest home videos is amazing everyone and still having great success! Then comes Dave Coulier with a wonderful idea. Why doesnt HE just make a show thats pretty much the same.. except put in HIS OWN silly voices during the video! He can call it Americas Funniest PEOPLE.
MONEY TREE FOR DAVE COULIER.


Do you think that Americas Funniest People is a ripoff?

Edit.. I probably sold AFP short. They added the jackelope and a chick cohost. Question still stands

 

[Baconäger]

Question Dem

How many similarities can you find between the Stern show and the O&A show? Does O&A have a worthless woman cohost? Do they ALWAYS read news at the end of the program? Do they have frequent contests/games for money? Do they do interviews with high level celebrities? Do the shows follow the exact same format?

Are you just saying they're ripoffs because Howard says so, because they happen to make dirty jokes on the radio, and because you happen to be a huge Stern fan?

 

[dem]

AFP added the jackelope and the female cohost!